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[Viewpoint]

You put forward whom you think we should trust but you have no idea how they will intervene or if they will intervene in time to save lives, doesnt really instill any confidence in placing our lives in their hands.

So you're not really serious about looking for alternatives are you? You're just playing your old stupid games... You know full well that the majority of Cypriots will NEVER, EVER accept Turkey as a guarantor after the horrors of 1974; so you keep insisting on it. So that we get nowhere; so you can say:

"See? We can't have a solution? We have to partition the island."

NEVER, EVER. Geddit?

You need to persuade me to dump Turkeys guarantee not the other way around. What if Turkey guarantee only covered the TC state as TCs will not let go of this life line if things shoudl go wrong.

[The Cypriot]

Turkey wants to reserve the right to intervene, again. If they hadn't had to in 1974, maybe they wouldn't want to retain it. You only have yourselves to blame for this demand.

We're going round in circles, VP. You may get off on it, but I don't. It's a non-starter. Forget it. There is no point arguing. It's getting stale-mate!

[Oracle]

Turkey wants to reserve the right to intervene, again. If they hadn't had to in 1974, maybe they wouldn't want to retain it. You only have yourselves to blame for this demand.

We're going round in circles, VP. You may get off on it, but I don't. It's a non-starter. Forget it. There is no point arguing. It's getting stale-mate!

VP or VW ... they are all the same ... and no one can blame you for trying to reason with them ....

[Viewpoint]

Turkey wants to reserve the right to intervene, again. If they hadn't had to in 1974, maybe they wouldn't want to retain it. You only have yourselves to blame for this demand.

We're going round in circles, VP. You may get off on it, but I don't. It's a non-starter. Forget it. There is no point arguing. It's getting stale-mate!

Thats the Cyprus all over, stale-mate.

[growuptcs]

You put forward whom you think we should trust but you have no idea how they will intervene or if they will intervene in time to save lives, doesnt really instill any confidence in placing our lives in their hands.

So you're not really serious about looking for alternatives are you? You're just playing your old stupid games... You know full well that the majority of Cypriots will NEVER, EVER accept Turkey as a guarantor after the horrors of 1974; so you keep insisting on it. So that we get nowhere; so you can say:

"See? We can't have a solution? We have to partition the island."

NEVER, EVER. Geddit?

You need to persuade me to dump Turkeys guarantee not the other way around. What if Turkey guarantee only covered the TC state as TCs will not let go of this life line if things shoudl go wrong.

You got to give up the political steroids sooner rather than later, before they amputate your future.

[Kikapu]

Could you provide examples of how this will be done? how TCs will be reassured that if conflict occurs and people start being killed that NATO will actual intervene.

Or if you're not serious about NATO then perhaps you can reassure me – if conflict is engineered and Turkey's military 'intervenes' – that innocent people won't be tortured, raped and killed as happened in 1974; when no one has been brought to justice...

You can trust NATO as you have recommended them to us.

I'm not after guarantees, you are. I don't trust anyone in a uniform, if I'm honest, but some uniforms are less scary than others.

I see what you mean, TC.!

[The Cypriot]

You need to persuade me to dump Turkeys guarantee not the other way around.

VP, do you agree, in principle, to NATO security? IF you receive sufficient assurances that your security will be safeguarded?

What if Turkey guarantee only covered the TC state as TCs will not let go of this life line if things shoudl go wrong.

I, personally, would not be able to agree to Turkey having any intervention rights anywhere in Cyprus. Sorry. That's how I feel. I doubt there are many free Cypriots who will feel differently. Same for Greece. Same for Britain. We just don't want them.

But all three could have intervention rights throughout the whole island – through NATO – until the situation on the island stabilised.

[Viewpoint]

You put forward whom you think we should trust but you have no idea how they will intervene or if they will intervene in time to save lives, doesnt really instill any confidence in placing our lives in their hands.

So you're not really serious about looking for alternatives are you? You're just playing your old stupid games... You know full well that the majority of Cypriots will NEVER, EVER accept Turkey as a guarantor after the horrors of 1974; so you keep insisting on it. So that we get nowhere; so you can say:

"See? We can't have a solution? We have to partition the island."

NEVER, EVER. Geddit?

You need to persuade me to dump Turkeys guarantee not the other way around. What if Turkey guarantee only covered the TC state as TCs will not let go of this life line if things shoudl go wrong.

You got to give up the political steroids sooner rather than later, before they amputate your future.

Why? You want us to dump our lifeline but put forward no concrete reasons as to how to address the TCs concerns, again you revert to sarcasm which as we all know is counter productive to positive debate.

[The Cypriot]

I'm not after guarantees, you are. I don't trust anyone in a uniform, if I'm honest, but some uniforms are less scary than others.

I see what you mean, TC.!

I can imagine me engineering a scenario that might require her intervention!

[The Cypriot]

Turkey wants to reserve the right to intervene, again. If they hadn't had to in 1974, maybe they wouldn't want to retain it. You only have yourselves to blame for this demand.

We're going round in circles, VP. You may get off on it, but I don't. It's a non-starter. Forget it. There is no point arguing. It's getting stale-mate!

Thats the Cyprus all over, stale-mate.

At least I'm trying though!