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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 11, 2009 8:09 pm

The Cypriot wrote:Unfortunately, I'm not at all sure Mr X will buy it, but if I was pushed to offer a solution to this deal-breaking conundrum, I'd say NATO would have to play a security role, if only as an interim measure...


We dont trust NATO to step in when necessary.
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon May 11, 2009 8:09 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:None? :shock: Oh Dear. We have been listening to propaganda, haven't we?
ps For allies read Turks, for Normandy read Cyprus, for Nazis read Greek Cypriots for Europe read Turkish Cypriots.


And for children's fiction read:

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Postby The Cypriot » Mon May 11, 2009 8:13 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:Unfortunately, I'm not at all sure Mr X will buy it, but if I was pushed to offer a solution to this deal-breaking conundrum, I'd say NATO would have to play a security role, if only as an interim measure...


We dont trust NATO to step in when necessary.


I think it will be easier to find ways to reassure the royal 'you' to trust NATO than it will be to get Cypriots free of interference from Turkey's military to trust it.

Some truly, truly horrible 'interventions' happened during the 'peace operation' of 1974. And no one, as far as I'm aware, has ever been brought to justice.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 11, 2009 9:09 pm

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The Cypriot wrote:Unfortunately, I'm not at all sure Mr X will buy it, but if I was pushed to offer a solution to this deal-breaking conundrum, I'd say NATO would have to play a security role, if only as an interim measure...


We dont trust NATO to step in when necessary.


I think it will be easier to find ways to reassure the royal 'you' to trust NATO than it will be to get Cypriots free of interference from Turkey's military to trust it.

Some truly, truly horrible 'interventions' happened during the 'peace operation' of 1974. And no one, as far as I'm aware, has ever been brought to justice.


Could you provide examples of how this will be done? how TCs will be reassured that if conflict occurs and people start being killed that NATO will actual intervene.
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon May 11, 2009 9:18 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Could you provide examples of how this will be done? how TCs will be reassured that if conflict occurs and people start being killed that NATO will actual intervene.


Who do you think I am, the Secretary General of NATO?

That's this guy....

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His name is Anders Fogh Rasmussen and I suggest you drop him an email expressing your concerns if you're serious about this as a way forward as opposed to just trying to score cheap points.

Here's the website.

http://www.nato.int

I understand Turkey is a member too.
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon May 11, 2009 9:24 pm

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Could you provide examples of how this will be done? how TCs will be reassured that if conflict occurs and people start being killed that NATO will actual intervene.


Or if you're not serious about NATO then perhaps you can reassure me – if conflict is engineered and Turkey's military 'intervenes' – that innocent people won't be tortured, raped and killed as happened in 1974; when no one has been brought to justice...
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 11, 2009 9:29 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Could you provide examples of how this will be done? how TCs will be reassured that if conflict occurs and people start being killed that NATO will actual intervene.


Who do you think I am, the Secretary General of NATO?

That's this guy....

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His name is Anders Fogh Rasmussen and I suggest you drop him an email expressing your concerns if you're serious about this as a way forward as opposed to just trying to score cheap points.

Here's the website.

http://www.nato.int

I understand Turkey is a member too.


You put forward whom you think we should trust but you have no idea how they will intervene or if they will intervene in time to save lives, doesnt really instill any confidence in placing our lives in their hands.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 11, 2009 9:30 pm

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Could you provide examples of how this will be done? how TCs will be reassured that if conflict occurs and people start being killed that NATO will actual intervene.


Or if you're not serious about NATO then perhaps you can reassure me – if conflict is engineered and Turkey's military 'intervenes' – that innocent people won't be tortured, raped and killed as happened in 1974; when no one has been brought to justice...


You can trust NATO as you have recommended them to us.
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon May 11, 2009 9:34 pm

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You put forward whom you think we should trust but you have no idea how they will intervene or if they will intervene in time to save lives, doesnt really instill any confidence in placing our lives in their hands.


So you're not really serious about looking for alternatives are you? You're just playing your old stupid games... You know full well that the majority of Cypriots will NEVER, EVER accept Turkey as a guarantor after the horrors of 1974; so you keep insisting on it. So that we get nowhere; so you can say:

"See? We can't have a solution? We have to partition the island."

NEVER, EVER. Geddit?
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon May 11, 2009 9:38 pm

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Could you provide examples of how this will be done? how TCs will be reassured that if conflict occurs and people start being killed that NATO will actual intervene.


Or if you're not serious about NATO then perhaps you can reassure me – if conflict is engineered and Turkey's military 'intervenes' – that innocent people won't be tortured, raped and killed as happened in 1974; when no one has been brought to justice...


You can trust NATO as you have recommended them to us.


I'm not after guarantees, you are. I don't trust anyone in a uniform, if I'm honest, but some uniforms are less scary than others.
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