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[halil]

TC's are asking guarantees of Turkey .... who cares what relation EU and Turkey has got between themself .
Majority of the Turkish Cypriots feels better and secure with Turkey's guarantees .For Turkish Cypriots wanting to join EU does not mean that their security will be ok .TC's wants guarentees of Turkey over their security that no one can dare to spoil their lifes again .It does not mean that they can have lots of troops in Cyprus .They will have rights to protect us in a such a way that seconed coups will not happen again .

[The Cypriot]

TC's are asking guarantees of Turkey .... who cares what relation EU and Turkey has got between themself .
Majority of the Turkish Cypriots feels better and secure with Turkey's guarantees .For Turkish Cypriots wanting to join EU does not mean that their security will be ok .TC's wants guarentees of Turkey over their security that no one can dare to spoil their lifes again .It does not mean that they can have lots of troops in Cyprus .They will have rights to protect us in a such a way that seconed coups will not happen again .

How about bringing to justice all the war criminals of 1974 and beyond then, to guarantee the integrity of Turkey's military? To make all Cypriots feel better and secure; and so one can dare to spoil their lives again?

[EPSILON]

Here's a guarantee the majority of Cypriots can live with...

Only Kolokotronis guarantee can b e accepted!!!!

Turks you are finally always the lossers/unless some stupid G/Cs became of no existance Ethnicity.This is the only way for you to survive and-unfortunately-many G/Cs working on this....

[Byron]

If Turkey will only accept a solution with Turkish guarantees, Greek Cypriots could request equivalent guarantees from GREECE . Is that the solution to the problem or is it stalemate once again.

Or do we just continue as we are for another 400 years or so ...... !!!

[Kikapu]

TC's are asking guarantees of Turkey .... who cares what relation EU and Turkey has got between themself .
Majority of the Turkish Cypriots feels better and secure with Turkey's guarantees .For Turkish Cypriots wanting to join EU does not mean that their security will be ok .TC's wants guarentees of Turkey over their security that no one can dare to spoil their lifes again .It does not mean that they can have lots of troops in Cyprus .They will have rights to protect us in a such a way that seconed coups will not happen again .

Halil, can you explain something to me.

It seems that the TC's want Turkey's guarantees if Turkey is not in the EU, but TC's do not ask for Turkey's guarantees once Turkey is in the EU. Why does the guarantees of Turkey depends whether Turkey is in the EU or not. Cyprus is in the EU, so why is that not enough for the TC's to feel secure without Turkey's guarantees. In another words, if you don't trust the GC's when Turkey is not a EU member, why would you trust them, if Turkey is a EU member. What does anything change if you do not trust the GC's to begin with.? To me, this seems like a ploy to get Turkey into the EU and has nothing to do with the TC’s security, because I cannot find any other explanation to the TC’s and Turkey’s demands of needing / giving guarantees.!

The other explanation would be of course, that Turkey has ZERO chance of ever being a EU member, therefore, this would allow them to have a intervention / invasion rights in Cyprus indefinitely.!

[EPSILON]

If Turkey will only accept a solution with Turkish guarantees, Greek Cypriots could request equivalent guarantees from GREECE . Is that the solution to the problem or is it stalemate once again.

Or do we just continue as we are for another 400 years or so ...... !!!

Greece , on today's politicians status, can give no serious gurantee about Cyprus. A Lamogio can not guarantee such a serious case.Greece , Lamogia, need Cypriots guarantee to survive!!!1With Mpakogianni and G Papantreou G/CS have to wait nothing-

[Byron]

If Turkey will only accept a solution with Turkish guarantees, Greek Cypriots could request equivalent guarantees from GREECE . Is that the solution to the problem or is it stalemate once again.

Or do we just continue as we are for another 400 years or so ...... !!!

Greece , on today's politicians status, can give no serious gurantee about Cyprus. A Lamogio can not guarantee such a serious case.Greece , Lamogia, need Cypriots guarantee to survive!!!1With Mpakogianni and G Papantreou G/CS have to wait nothing-

I am sorry, but I did not quite understand your English. Are you saying that with G Papandreau, GREECE would have given an automatic guarantee to Cyprus . And if this were to be correct , what has changed in the current political thinking of the GREEK Govt for them not to give such a guarantee in the future.

[halil]

TC's are asking guarantees of Turkey .... who cares what relation EU and Turkey has got between themself .
Majority of the Turkish Cypriots feels better and secure with Turkey's guarantees .For Turkish Cypriots wanting to join EU does not mean that their security will be ok .TC's wants guarentees of Turkey over their security that no one can dare to spoil their lifes again .It does not mean that they can have lots of troops in Cyprus .They will have rights to protect us in a such a way that seconed coups will not happen again .

How about bringing to justice all the war criminals of 1974 and beyond then, to guarantee the integrity of Turkey's military? To make all Cypriots feel better and secure; and so one can dare to spoil their lives again?

I am not against it .All should bring front of the justice from 1963 up to now. Yes no one can dare to spoil our lives again . I am not afraid of it .I will be very happy when they do it .
Asking gurantees is different than bringing to justice the quilty ones.

[The Cypriot]

How about bringing to justice all the war criminals of 1974 and beyond then, to guarantee the integrity of Turkey's military? To make all Cypriots feel better and secure; and so one can dare to spoil their lives again?

I am not against it .All should bring front of the justice from 1963 up to now. Yes no one can dare to spoil our lives again . I am not afraid of it .I will be very happy when they do it .
Asking gurantees is different than bringing to justice the quilty ones.

All people should indeed be brought to justice - but we are not expecting these criminals – who have committed attrocities in Cyprus – to guarantee the safety of Cypriots, but Turkey's army.

So please can you lobby for Turkey's army to bring all her war criminals of 1974 (and beyond) to justice because only then can Turkey's guarantee to ensure safety on the island be worth anything. Go for it if you are serious.

[halil]

How about bringing to justice all the war criminals of 1974 and beyond then, to guarantee the integrity of Turkey's military? To make all Cypriots feel better and secure; and so one can dare to spoil their lives again?

I am not against it .All should bring front of the justice from 1963 up to now. Yes no one can dare to spoil our lives again . I am not afraid of it .I will be very happy when they do it .
Asking gurantees is different than bringing to justice the quilty ones.

All people should indeed be brought to justice - but we are not expecting these criminals – who have committed attrocities in Cyprus – to guarantee the safety of Cypriots, but Turkey's army.

So please can you lobby for Turkey's army to bring all her war criminals of 1974 (and beyond) to justice because only then can Turkey's guarantee to ensure safety on the island be worth anything. Go for it if you are serious.

Again u are only thinking one side of the story .
all the actors must be front of the justice. Turkey's army involeved in Cyprus from the morning of 20 July .
Break away of ROC started in 21st December 1963 . Who were the those criminals . To be serious we must bring all the parties . we must begin from 1963 , Than i can with u .