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[miltiades]

Turkey wants to reserve the right to intervene, again. If they hadn't had to in 1974, maybe they wouldn't want to retain it. You only have yourselves to blame for this demand.

Spoken like a true Plonker . Thousands of people were killed in 1974 as a result of the Turkish invasion you prick!
Worry about your property now mate !!!

[Oracle]

For Talat, Turks and their pleading demands ...

That was so beautiful and very moving. So realistic (almost) so un-you.

A great interpretation of the demise of the swan.

Were you saying something?

It's too late for demands now; they should just "die" gracefully ....

I am sure you would love to put the swans out of their misery out of kindness.

I would probably have to join a long queue, behind a lot of disgruntled Brits, criminally ignoring any ideas of "Queenly" protection of these (metaphorical) swans, singing their last song .....

[vaughanwilliams]

Thousands of Germans were killed when the allies invaded Normandy. Does that make the allies wrong?
Ask yourself and answer honestly: Why DID the Turks invade/intervene in 1974?
Invasions/interventions cost a fortune in lives, money and materiel. They are not undertaken lightly.

I see you rightly refer to it as "my property" although I am not worried about it in the slightest.

[miltiades]

Thousands of Germans were killed when the allies invaded Normandy. Does that make the allies wrong?
Ask yourself and answer honestly: Why DID the Turks invade/intervene in 1974?
Invasions/interventions cost a fortune in lives, money and materiel. They are not undertaken lightly.

I see you rightly refer to it as "my property" although I am not worried about it in the slightest.

Do you by any chance know how many Turkish Cypriots were killed
in inter communal conflict some 6 years before the invasion. I bet you were told that they were being massacred. The truth mate is NONE !

ps. The allies invaded Normandy in order to defeat the Nazis and liberate Europe , what is the relevance with Turkey invading Cyprus Plonker !!

[vaughanwilliams]

None? Oh Dear. We have been listening to propaganda, haven't we?
ps For allies read Turks, for Normandy read Cyprus, for Nazis read Greek Cypriots for Europe read Turkish Cypriots.

[suetoniuspaulinus]

Thousands of Germans were killed when the allies invaded Normandy. Does that make the allies wrong?
Ask yourself and answer honestly: Why DID the Turks invade/intervene in 1974?
Invasions/interventions cost a fortune in lives, money and materiel. They are not undertaken lightly.

I see you rightly refer to it as "my property" although I am not worried about it in the slightest.

Do you by any chance know how many Turkish Cypriots were killed
in inter communal conflict some 6 years before the invasion. I bet you were told that they were being massacred. The truth mate is NONE !

ps. The allies invaded Normandy in order to defeat the Nazis and liberate Europe , what is the relevance with Turkey invading Cyprus Plonker !!

I see you deliberately ensure that your period of time begins in 1968. After Kokkina and the intervention of the Turkish Air Force. Again!!.
However, after this time, when Grivas had been returned to Greece, Makarios was too intimidated to do much to the TC's except harrass them continually when they left their enclaves, which totalled 3% of the land mass of Cyprus!!!!. You fail to mention the deaths of Turkish Cypriots up to 1968 though. Why? Too embarrassed??

I'm afraid before you call anyone a plonker you need to look into a mirror first!!

[halil]

Something is very strange always in this forum .

some people likes the numbers always . They never think . Why we had all these mess ..... what were the aims ? what was the reasones ?
why we had 1963-1967 ? why we had 15 July 1974 - 20 july 1974 ?
why since 1975 talks upto now ..... no results at all ?

yes plunker .... no plunker ...... your mumma .... my mamma .... Cypriots .... true cypriots ..... settlers ....TC's ....GC's ...... Greeks ....Turks ..... EU ..... One day British are ok ...next day bad... enemy ..... Murderes ..... Credible source ... uncredible source .....

what a funny way of life....

[suetoniuspaulinus]

Yes you are right, professor Halil, but some start in 1571, some in 1878 and others still in 1191. All look to history to vindicate their views. Only trouble is we are ALL right, and the other fellow is wrong. Cyprus has been inhabited for about 10,000 years and it seems that for only 3 of those years were they able to rule themselves. Is it possible that Cypriots are incapable of governing themselves? Perhaps we should offer ourselves as a province to Canada or India. You might laugh but could it be worse??

[Nikitas]

Waugahnwilliams,

Yes the allies invaded and did kill a lot of Germans. Up to that point the analogy is true. But once the legal order was restored the allies left.

Turkey invaded using the clause in the 1960 constitution as its excuse. It did not do anything to restore the legal order. Turkey lied in 1974, it lied about its reasons for staying and it is lying now about the need for future guarantees.

As for the eventual outcome, just remember the historic events of Lambousa. We will be back as we returned to Lambousa. No conqueror ever stayed in Cyprus forever.

[halil]

Waugahnwilliams,

Yes the allies invaded and did kill a lot of Germans. Up to that point the analogy is true. But once the legal order was restored the allies left.

Turkey invaded using the clause in the 1960 constitution as its excuse. It did not do anything to restore the legal order. Turkey lied in 1974, it lied about its reasons for staying and it is lying now about the need for future guarantees.

As for the eventual outcome, just remember the historic events of Lambousa. We will be back as we returned to Lambousa. No conqueror ever stayed in Cyprus forever.

OK Nikitas Turkey lied in 1974 .... Turkey wasn't in Cyprus at 1963 and 1967 and 15 july 1974 .... Who were the liers in those days .... who were the liers to break up 1960 agreements .