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Karmi Brits defiant in the face of Orams verdict

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Mon May 11, 2009 1:20 pm

Oracle wrote:Rhetoric worthy of a Roman Emperor ... which means only second best in Hellenic forums. :wink:

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:Yes, the question of who stole what from whom will result in another circular argument where you say I'm wrong and I will reiterate the sentiment.


You seem to be the only one going round in circles, suet ... For us the road ahead is now linear, thanks to (inter alia) the Orams.

The idea of "saving face" , especially on this forum, is far from my mind.


Very wise ... to recognise your name is mud!

Once again, though, let me state that there have been many injustices on this island perpetrated by all and sundry and that I feel sorry for the victims, whoever they may be. The most recent, of course, being the Orams. Overly trusting? Perhaps. Victims of the CyProb? Definitely!


The Orams are only victims of their own stupidity and greed and as such merely to be pitied.

Only history will unravel this conundrum. Surely not me or Oracle. Of one thing I am sure, it will not be solved in my lifetime, or my children's.


The only conundrum is how to solve your, confessed, personal "sentence"; but tempus fugit ...

Perhaps the mire engulfing you is clouding your judgement, since things appear much clearer from our perspective. :D


I had no idea this was a Hellenic Forum. I thought it was Cypriot

I am inspired by your optimism, and wish you well on your linear journey.

The only "sticking" point I have here is with reference to my name as "mud"? I'm not sure I understand why?

Thank you for offering to help me with my conundrum. It really is sweet of you. My clouded fuzzy perspective is obviously not as clear as yours. Again you prove yourself to be an exemplary Cypriot by offering to help one less fortunate than yourself. I am confident you will find your reward in Heaven, if not on earth. Thank you again for your thoughtfulness.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon May 11, 2009 1:35 pm

Highlandwolf said:

"The vitriol has to be dropped and people have to move on"

Mkove on where? Are you providing land and assets to make up for the ones I lost?

Precisely becaue humanity has moved on from the times of empires and such crap we now have things like the Charters of Human Rights and such. Or have you not heard of those?

Your ancestors moved to Canada etc and did to the Native Americans and Australians what they knew best. We are not Red Indians or Aboriginals to be shoved off on some reservation. We survived many more and much worse conquerors than the Turks and bounced back. We will do so again. It took 300 years for the heirs of the people of Lambousa to return to their village. But return they did.
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Postby Oracle » Mon May 11, 2009 1:39 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:I had no idea this was a Hellenic Forum. I thought it was Cypriot


... And Octavian would have you believe that Cleopatra wasn't Greek :wink: ... An understandable Roman folly ... in light of your views ...

But anyway, this is the Cyprus Forum and as such does not have a "Nationality" such as Cypriot.
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Mon May 11, 2009 1:44 pm

Hellenic, Cypriot..................would not a rose by another name smell as sweet?

Octavian was right,.............. couldn't possibly have been Greek or she wouldn't have had so much trouble with her asp.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon May 11, 2009 1:53 pm

THis is the epilogue from today's comment by Sener Levent. For those Brits who live in the north but take no interest in local affairs, Sener Levent is a Turkish Cypriot jounralist who has been persecuted by the authorities for expressing his views.

"You might be able at the moment to dominate the majority of the island with your military power. But do you understand what seeds of hatred and hostility you are sowing for the future when you trample on the most natural human rights?"

His oped article is directed to the "authorities" of the TRNC and the property issue. He is not the only Turkish CYpriot holding such views. Perhaps some of you neo colonial villa owning tresspassers would do well to read the local press.
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Postby Oracle » Mon May 11, 2009 2:00 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:Hellenic, Cypriot..................would not a rose by another name smell as sweet?


Agreed .... but it was your out of context confusion comparing Hellenic and Roman fora which led to the diversion. Perhaps your disposition for circles again :wink:

Octavian was right,.............. couldn't possibly have been Greek or she wouldn't have had so much trouble with her asp.


Aaahh! I said Octavian would have you believe she wasn't Greek! ... He knew very well himself she was Greek ... but how else could he convince his countrymen to go to war with those they admired/envied the most?
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Mon May 11, 2009 2:19 pm

Oracle wrote:
suetoniuspaulinus wrote:Hellenic, Cypriot..................would not a rose by another name smell as sweet?


Agreed .... but it was your out of context confusion comparing Hellenic and Roman fora which led to the diversion. Perhaps your disposition for circles again :wink:

Octavian was right,.............. couldn't possibly have been Greek or she wouldn't have had so much trouble with her asp.


Aaahh! I said Octavian would have you believe she wasn't Greek! ... He knew very well himself she was Greek ... but how else could he convince his countrymen to go to war with those they admired/envied the most?


Why would I want to confuse Hellenic and Roman fora if not for you to "straighten" me out?

I thought Octavian was dead? "Would have had you believe.........." etc
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Postby Oracle » Mon May 11, 2009 2:30 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
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suetoniuspaulinus wrote:Hellenic, Cypriot..................would not a rose by another name smell as sweet?


Agreed .... but it was your out of context confusion comparing Hellenic and Roman fora which led to the diversion. Perhaps your disposition for circles again :wink:

Octavian was right,.............. couldn't possibly have been Greek or she wouldn't have had so much trouble with her asp.


Aaahh! I said Octavian would have you believe she wasn't Greek! ... He knew very well himself she was Greek ... but how else could he convince his countrymen to go to war with those they admired/envied the most?


Why would I want to confuse Hellenic and Roman fora if not for you to "straighten" me out?

I thought Octavian was dead? "Would have had you believe.........." etc


But you are presently alive :wink: and his arguments are still amongst us!
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon May 11, 2009 3:19 pm

There was a lengthy interview with Apostolides in yesterday's Yeni Düzen:

http://www.yeniduzengazetesi.com/templa ... &zoneid=19
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Postby Dr J » Mon May 11, 2009 3:37 pm

English translation??
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