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[CBBB]

i just don't understand where all this racism come from with them?
how many times do they need to be told not to take sides, its nothing to do with them.
my tc and turkish friends don't behave in the same way, so why the brits?(and the dutch)
maybe it all just boils down to money?

The Brits are just stupid (almost forgivable) the TCs are seasoned opportunists ... When push comes to shove (soon), you may well see another side to those "kind" duplicitous TCs ... as we did in 1974!

Hissssssssssss

Most intelligent coment you have ever made on this forum!

[Kikapu]

You know, I was just wondering WHY there hasn't been a "call a friend" club established by the GC's in the south, to call their friendly "Scumdog Millionaires" in the north 24/7 to tell them what their legal rights are when the court papers are served on them in the morning, just so that they can sleep in peace at night.!

[YFred]

You know, I was just wondering WHY there hasn't been a "call a friend" club established by the GC's in the south, to call their friendly "Scumdog Millionaires" in the north 24/7 to tell them what their legal rights are when the court papers are served on them in the morning, just so that they can sleep in peace at night.!

Chance of getting a telephone line is negligible, but they could use mirrors, smoke signals or even flags.
Problem solved.

[Damsi]

Another anonymously written Cyprus Mail article ... what are they afraid of? Losing Kudos for doing a journalistic U-Turn?

The recent ECJ ruling in favour of Greek Cypriot property owner Meletis Apostolides has led to a flurry of speculation in the north over the fate of those illegally living in properties abandoned after 1974. Reporter Daniel Lucas paid a visit to the primarily British village of Karmi to see what the locals were saying )

Author given as David Lucas

.. Good on this Brit ... wish some of their GC journalists had the same balls!

FYI
Daniel Lucas is half GC and the previous article you are referring to that had no author was an EDITORIAL....it obviously didn't occur to you that sending a fully-fledged GC to karmi asking awkward questions would probably have set off alarm bells for the beetroot people...they would not have talked - or worse - so sorry but there is no conspiracy here

[Tim Drayton]

I was talking to a group of fairly ordinary elderly Turkish Cypriots in a coffee shop while visiting the north last week. Several of them were refugees from Paphos. It was not long before the conversation turned to the Orams case. The opinion of these people was that while under the prevailing circumstances it was right to house TC refugees, who were victims of war, in vacated GC properties as a temporary expedient, it was a huge mistake to convert what was initially conceived of as a usufructuory right into phony title with the issuing of title deeds that had no validity under international law. As far as these ordinary TCs were concerned, foreign buyers who rushed in to exploit this situation to acquire cheap bogus title to other people's property have only themselves to blame for the consequences. They had no sympathy whatsoever for their plight. I sensed that they had much more respect for me as a foreigner who has bought property legally in the government controlled part of the island than for the carpetbaggers who are living among them.

[Oracle]

Another anonymously written Cyprus Mail article ... what are they afraid of? Losing Kudos for doing a journalistic U-Turn?

The recent ECJ ruling in favour of Greek Cypriot property owner Meletis Apostolides has led to a flurry of speculation in the north over the fate of those illegally living in properties abandoned after 1974. Reporter Daniel Lucas paid a visit to the primarily British village of Karmi to see what the locals were saying )

Author given as David Lucas

.. Good on this Brit ... wish some of their GC journalists had the same balls!

FYI
Daniel Lucas is half GC and the previous article you are referring to that had no author was an EDITORIAL....it obviously didn't occur to you that sending a fully-fledged GC to karmi asking awkward questions would probably have set off alarm bells for the beetroot people ...

But the beetroot people think all the "natives" look the same ...

..they would not have talked - or worse - so sorry but there is no conspiracy here

You consider this as "talking"? ...

"The GCs can take their tattered deeds and fuck off.”

[suetoniuspaulinus]

Did you manage to find out why these lovely TC's didn't say anything at the time , or since, and how much money they made from this unsavoury situation? AAhh Hindsight. 20/20 vision. The Orams case will not affect 99.9999999% of the Foreign Nationals who have bought homes in the north. They might feel a bit scared now but come Christmas, no problems. Life time gifting, transfers of assets, and other such LEGAL mechanisms will ensure their wealth remains intact. The Turkish and Greek Cypriots will be where they started from. No further in their quest for a utopian or magic solution. Next referendum, GC's will still say OXI, probably to be joined by the TC community. A few more generations needed. Who will suffer the most? The poor. Who will get richer? The rich. Nothing will change soon.

[suetoniuspaulinus]

Did you manage to find out why these lovely TC's didn't say anything at the time , or since, and how much money they made from this unsavoury situation? AAhh Hindsight. 20/20 vision. The Orams case will not affect 99.9999999% of the Foreign Nationals who have bought homes in the north. They might feel a bit scared now but come Christmas, no problems. Life time gifting, transfers of assets, and other such LEGAL mechanisms will ensure their wealth remains intact. The Turkish and Greek Cypriots will be where they started from. No further in their quest for a utopian or magic solution. Next referendum, GC's will still say OXI, probably to be joined by the TC community. A few more generations needed. Who will suffer the most? The poor. Who will get richer? The rich. Nothing will change soon.

Addressed to Tim Drayton

[Oracle]

They might feel a bit scared now but come Christmas, no problems. Life time gifting, transfers of assets, and other such LEGAL mechanisms will ensure their wealth remains intact. .

All such transactions are still deemed in your estate for seven years ... therefore, seizable!

Whatever you do now, it's too late ....

Of course ... the default setting, should you have bought stolen goods and don't return them (sounds like you're feeling "guilty") ... is Prison!

[suetoniuspaulinus]

They might feel a bit scared now but come Christmas, no problems. Life time gifting, transfers of assets, and other such LEGAL mechanisms will ensure their wealth remains intact. .

All such transactions are still deemed in your estate for seven years ... therefore, seizable!

Whatever you do now, it's too late ....

Of course ... the default setting, should you have bought stolen goods and don't return them (sounds like you're feeling "guilty") ... is Prison!

No. I don't feel guilty at all. What I feel is sorry for those whose lives have been disrupted by the CyProb, ever since 1191. Seven years is not long to wait. How long did Orams take? While I can understand your jubilation, in the long run it will not actually solve anything.