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Karmi Brits defiant in the face of Orams verdict

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Postby Viewpoint » Sun May 10, 2009 6:17 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
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CBBB wrote:What about their pensions (presuming that at least some of them were at sometime legally employed in the UK and paid thier contributions)?


Yes assuming but they still feel the enforcement will be put off until or if ever a solution is found, which will leave the GCs up the swany without a paddle.

What a bunch of immoral and corrupt geezers think and what will actually happen are two different things… :lol:

Enforcement is the key here otherwise the verdict is worthless.

Patience till 2010.

Anyway, any news from Zanny? :(


Nope.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun May 10, 2009 6:28 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
CBBB wrote:What about their pensions (presuming that at least some of them were at sometime legally employed in the UK and paid thier contributions)?


Yes assuming but they still feel the enforcement will be put off until or if ever a solution is found, which will leave the GCs up the swany without a paddle.

What a bunch of immoral and corrupt geezers think and what will actually happen are two different things… :lol:


Enforcement is the key here otherwise the verdict is worthless.


Enforcement is very important but it isn't the whole story is it VP?

There are at least two other important consequences. One is the devastation on the Illegal Land Scam Market and the other is the reinforcing of Pres X's position on property matters.

Oh and here's a third - it makes me feel happy and if I'm happy, you can bet your last dodgy kochan that 10,000's of others are also happy and .... emboldened.

Are we happy, CY Forumers?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun May 10, 2009 6:32 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
CBBB wrote:What about their pensions (presuming that at least some of them were at sometime legally employed in the UK and paid thier contributions)?


Yes assuming but they still feel the enforcement will be put off until or if ever a solution is found, which will leave the GCs up the swany without a paddle.

What a bunch of immoral and corrupt geezers think and what will actually happen are two different things… :lol:


Enforcement is the key here otherwise the verdict is worthless.


Enforcement is very important but it isn't the whole story is it VP?

There are at least two other important consequences. One is the devastation on the Illegal Land Scam Market and the other is the reinforcing of Pres X's position on property matters.

Oh and here's a third - it makes me feel happy and if I'm happy, you can bet your last dodgy kochan that 10,000's of others are also happy and .... emboldened.

Are we happy, CY Forumers?


What does it really change in reality if you cannot enforce it?
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun May 10, 2009 6:44 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
CBBB wrote:What about their pensions (presuming that at least some of them were at sometime legally employed in the UK and paid thier contributions)?


Yes assuming but they still feel the enforcement will be put off until or if ever a solution is found, which will leave the GCs up the swany without a paddle.

What a bunch of immoral and corrupt geezers think and what will actually happen are two different things… :lol:


Enforcement is the key here otherwise the verdict is worthless.


Enforcement is very important but it isn't the whole story is it VP?

There are at least two other important consequences. One is the devastation on the Illegal Land Scam Market and the other is the reinforcing of Pres X's position on property matters.

Oh and here's a third - it makes me feel happy and if I'm happy, you can bet your last dodgy kochan that 10,000's of others are also happy and .... emboldened.

Are we happy, CY Forumers?


What does it really change in reality if you cannot enforce it?


Oh dear, some gramaphone record playing brave-faced propagandists for cnnt-land are in for a nasty little surprise when this one goes back before the GB Courts in a few months time to confirm the judgements and give Mr A an Enforcement Order.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun May 10, 2009 6:45 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
CBBB wrote:What about their pensions (presuming that at least some of them were at sometime legally employed in the UK and paid thier contributions)?


Yes assuming but they still feel the enforcement will be put off until or if ever a solution is found, which will leave the GCs up the swany without a paddle.

What a bunch of immoral and corrupt geezers think and what will actually happen are two different things… :lol:


Enforcement is the key here otherwise the verdict is worthless.


Enforcement is very important but it isn't the whole story is it VP?

There are at least two other important consequences. One is the devastation on the Illegal Land Scam Market and the other is the reinforcing of Pres X's position on property matters.

Oh and here's a third - it makes me feel happy and if I'm happy, you can bet your last dodgy kochan that 10,000's of others are also happy and .... emboldened.

Are we happy, CY Forumers?


What does it really change in reality if you cannot enforce it?


Oh dear, some gramaphone record playing brave-faced propagandists for cnnt-land are in for a nasty little surprise when this one goes back before the GB Courts in a few months time to confirm the judgements and give Mr A an Enforcement Order.


And?
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun May 10, 2009 6:57 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
CBBB wrote:What about their pensions (presuming that at least some of them were at sometime legally employed in the UK and paid thier contributions)?


Yes assuming but they still feel the enforcement will be put off until or if ever a solution is found, which will leave the GCs up the swany without a paddle.

What a bunch of immoral and corrupt geezers think and what will actually happen are two different things… :lol:


Enforcement is the key here otherwise the verdict is worthless.


Enforcement is very important but it isn't the whole story is it VP?

There are at least two other important consequences. One is the devastation on the Illegal Land Scam Market and the other is the reinforcing of Pres X's position on property matters.

Oh and here's a third - it makes me feel happy and if I'm happy, you can bet your last dodgy kochan that 10,000's of others are also happy and .... emboldened.

Are we happy, CY Forumers?


What does it really change in reality if you cannot enforce it?


Oh dear, some gramaphone record playing brave-faced propagandists for cnnt-land are in for a nasty little surprise when this one goes back before the GB Courts in a few months time to confirm the judgements and give Mr A an Enforcement Order.


And?



:lol:

And? .... Do you ask "and"?

Well look up the judgement/compensation ordered by the Nicosia Court so the "and" probably includes sizeable cash compensation to be paid to Mr A out of GB assets, asset that may exist in the Real World.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun May 10, 2009 7:31 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
CBBB wrote:What about their pensions (presuming that at least some of them were at sometime legally employed in the UK and paid thier contributions)?


Yes assuming but they still feel the enforcement will be put off until or if ever a solution is found, which will leave the GCs up the swany without a paddle.

What a bunch of immoral and corrupt geezers think and what will actually happen are two different things… :lol:


Enforcement is the key here otherwise the verdict is worthless.


Enforcement is very important but it isn't the whole story is it VP?

There are at least two other important consequences. One is the devastation on the Illegal Land Scam Market and the other is the reinforcing of Pres X's position on property matters.

Oh and here's a third - it makes me feel happy and if I'm happy, you can bet your last dodgy kochan that 10,000's of others are also happy and .... emboldened.

Are we happy, CY Forumers?


What does it really change in reality if you cannot enforce it?


Oh dear, some gramaphone record playing brave-faced propagandists for cnnt-land are in for a nasty little surprise when this one goes back before the GB Courts in a few months time to confirm the judgements and give Mr A an Enforcement Order.


And?



:lol:

And? .... Do you ask "and"?

Well look up the judgement/compensation ordered by the Nicosia Court so the "and" probably includes sizeable cash compensation to be paid to Mr A out of GB assets, asset that may exist in the Real World.


may being the operative word??
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun May 10, 2009 7:39 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
CBBB wrote:What about their pensions (presuming that at least some of them were at sometime legally employed in the UK and paid thier contributions)?


Yes assuming but they still feel the enforcement will be put off until or if ever a solution is found, which will leave the GCs up the swany without a paddle.

What a bunch of immoral and corrupt geezers think and what will actually happen are two different things… :lol:


Enforcement is the key here otherwise the verdict is worthless.


Enforcement is very important but it isn't the whole story is it VP?

There are at least two other important consequences. One is the devastation on the Illegal Land Scam Market and the other is the reinforcing of Pres X's position on property matters.

Oh and here's a third - it makes me feel happy and if I'm happy, you can bet your last dodgy kochan that 10,000's of others are also happy and .... emboldened.

Are we happy, CY Forumers?


What does it really change in reality if you cannot enforce it?


Oh dear, some gramaphone record playing brave-faced propagandists for cnnt-land are in for a nasty little surprise when this one goes back before the GB Courts in a few months time to confirm the judgements and give Mr A an Enforcement Order.


And?



:lol:

And? .... Do you ask "and"?

Well look up the judgement/compensation ordered by the Nicosia Court so the "and" probably includes sizeable cash compensation to be paid to Mr A out of GB assets, asset that may exist in the Real World.


Er .... VP ..... Where have they gone?

You did tell the Land Stealers of Lapithos and Karmi that the ECJ judgement
was largely about Enforcement? In the case of the Harems, Enforcement of the Nicosia Courts judgement which included a sizeable amount of cash compensation for the rightful owners not being able to enjoy their land?
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun May 10, 2009 7:46 pm

Mr Foul Mouthed Beetroot Man of the OP, start crying me old mate, in the Sun and in to your cold beer.
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Postby RichardB » Sun May 10, 2009 8:25 pm

[
14] Statements by British owner of usurped Greek Cypriot house in occupied Karmi on whether a writ was served
Under the title Lawyer says writ served, but family and court reject claim, Candounas targets Kent couple, Turkish Cypriot weekly Cyprus Today (12-18/1/08) reports the following:

A second British couple with a holiday home in North Cyprus have been targeted by Greek Cypriot lawyer Constantis Candounas with claims that their property belongs to one of his clients.

Mr Candounas, instigator of a similar claim involving the Lapta [occupied Lapithos] home of Linda and David Orams, said this week he had served a writ against Bruce and Barbara Weedon who eight years ago bought the lease of a house in Karaman [occupied Karmi], administered by the TRNC Tourism Ministry.

The couple, who live near Canterbury, Kent, say, however, they have not accepted any writs sent or brought to their home and are now seeking legal advice.

Speaking from the UK, Mr Weedon, a 67-year-old former insurance agent, told Cyprus Today he was aware of four attempts to serve the writ on behalf of Mr Candounas´s client, Vasiliki Zehchiri, who left Karaman in 1974.

We returned home in October, having been abroad for some time and in the post was a letter from the bailiff of Canterbury County Court, saying he would like to see us, said Mr Weedon. When he arrived he told us it was to do with property in Cyprus, so I declined to accept it as I was pretty sure what it was about.

Since then we have had three further attempts to serve the writ on us two by post and one by DHL courier. The most recent attempt was in a letter carrying Greek Cypriot postage stamps which arrived on Tuesday last week.

We have signed none of them and have no intention of doing so because we purchased our right to live in the Karaman house and have spent thousands of pounds on repairing and improving it.

Mr Weedon said his son had opened envelopes containing the writ while they were abroad and told them it was claiming around £60,000 in rent and damages plus return of the house.

I´m pretty sure the woman making the claim was among a group which asked if they could take stones from one of our walls in Karaman as a souvenir because their family had lived there, said Mr Weedon.

I declined to let them do that because the wall had been built since 1974 and therefore had nothing to do with anyone who had lived there before that.

Over the eight years we have had the house we have had several approaches from Greek Cypriots. They seem to have forgotten that Karaman now is nothing like the derelict and deserted place they left in 1974.

Leaseholders like us have made enormous improvements while respecting its original architecture and history.

Mr Candounas told Cyprus Today this week that he had a certificate from the Royal Court of Justice confirming the writ had been successfully served on Mr and Mrs Weedon.

He said the Weedons were now legally obliged to appear before the South Cyprus Nicosia District Court within 30 days of November 23, when the writ was officially served.

However, when Cyprus Today contacted the UK court on Thursday seeking confirmation, we were referred to Canterbury Country Court, whose administrative officer, Rita Dobbyn, said: We only have a record of the bailiff´s visit in October, when the writ was refused. If it has been successfully served it must have been by another authority, or by another means. According to our records the writ has not been served.

http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module= ... 25&print=1


Over a year old but is this 'Beetroot man'????
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Indeed, a second British couple, Bruce and Barbara Weedon, who divide their time between Canterbury, Kent, and Northern Cyprus, have already been targeted by another man who wants his property back.

Constantis Candounas, the lawyer who also represents Mr Apostolides, says a writ was served against the couple in November, demanding they pay £60,000 in back rent, leave their house in Karaman and hand it back to Vasiliki Zehchiri, another exile who fled in the wake of Turkish forces.



Yesterday Mrs Weedon denied receiving a writ. 'It's not true,' she says, 'but our lawyers have advised us not to speak about the case.'


And this from the daily mail 4/5/09

me thinks they been telling porkies
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