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Postby Medman » Sun May 10, 2009 11:46 am

From the letters section of the Cyprus Mail.

Church of Cyprus has seriously lost its way

The real enemy of Cyprus is not a barbarian bloodthirsty Turkey, forever bent on the unbridled conquest of Cyprus; nor is it not a secret conspiracy involving foreign interests in Cyprus, who will ensure Cyprus remains divided forever which secures their interests.... whatever they may be.

The reality is that these so called “enemies of Cyprus” have been created and fostered only to cover up the real culprit. This true enemy has been lying right under our nose for hundreds of years. It has governed our lives and directed society. It has even penetrated into the political arena of Cyprus and gone so far as to select Presidents and political parties.

The only enemy of Cyprus with such a degree of influence, power and ability is none other than the Greek Orthodox Church of Cyprus. The so called protector of Hellenism and the Greek identity in Cyprus. This is the real enemy and we have let it determine our fate for far too long.

Seeing the church advocate ‘hitting’ naughty school children and constantly meddling in state affairs from the time of EOKA, to the Annan Plan and beyond has caused me to voice my concerns. More recently Archbishop of the Church of Cyprus, Chrysostomos II, asked Greek Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis for the substantial support of the Greek government to avoid “amateur” handling in a new solution plan for Cyprus.

As an individual, I am Greek Orthodox and consider myself very religious. More so than the average person. I do not go to church just to be seen or because of tradition. I hold a firm belief in the Orthodox faith and actively practice what is preached. I try desperately to hold firm the value of forgiveness, which I consider the most challenging value of the Orthodox religion. However in Cyprus I despise the Church and refuse to contribute to their corruption and hypocrisy.

For years the church advocated for armed violence, a concept that all religions outright reject. But in Cyprus, the church supports this notion. The church also ignores the principles of forgiveness and constantly advocates an outright revenge type mentality against Turkey and other claimed “enemies” of Cyprus.

My message to the church is simple. Go back to school. It is obvious the Orthodox religious leaders did not understand what their religion advocates and instead practice the opposite. My message to the political leadership. Put an end to the church’s involvement in state affairs. Nothing aggravates me more than seeing no advance in Cypriot life from the Medieval ages. Political leaders in Cyprus still essentially rule by the will of god, as the monarchs in medieval Europe did. Essentially, if the church supports a Presidential candidate his/her chance of winning is greatly increased.

My message to the people. Open your eyes. The power to change the future is in your hands and your hands only. Do not be a slave to the church which maintains its own agenda. Cyprus must wake up. I am not advocating abandoning your religious beliefs and traditions. On the contrary, I am asking you to enhance them, as it is clear that the church does not hold true to the basic principles of its own religious doctrine.

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Postby Oracle » Sun May 10, 2009 12:12 pm

The Greek Orthodox Church is all about opening people's eyes, not merely preaching belief in a "God" ... In this way it has influenced this correspondent correctly ... who may now apply those principles infuriatingly awakened within him, to all other corners of his life.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun May 10, 2009 1:19 pm

What a fine letter from a true believer.
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Postby Piratis » Sun May 10, 2009 1:25 pm

Personally I am atheist/agnostic and I do not support the Church or any form of organized religion.

Either I personally like it or not, however, the Church of Cyprus has the support of a very large portion of the population, maybe the majority, and it is from there that it gains all its power. The Church has power because the people of Cyprus give power to it. If the Cypriot people decide that they don't want the Church to have any power, they can remove this power from the church very easily.

Personally I find it hypocritical that the same people that accept that a small minority (18%) of Turkish Cypriots which are empowered and backed by a foreign country should not only have a say, but a veto in everything that happens in Cyprus, and yet they don't recognize any rights to the Church which has the support of a far larger portion of the population.

The enemies of Cyprus are those who impose by force their rule and will over the Cypriot people. And those are indeed the Turks and those others who want to keep the island divided and weak in order to maintain military bases and control over our island.

So trying to distract the Cypriot people from the real enemies and divide the Cypriot people again, is not something that will work.

In fact while I am not even religious, I fully agree with the position of the Church on the Cyprus problem, and so does the vast majority of the Cypriot people (for the examples that the letter gives: EOKA, Annan plan).

The Cypriot people are very forgiving, and this is why we forgave the Turks after they oppressed us for over 3 centuries. It is them who attacked us again in 1958 and re-started the conflict, in their effort to support the Colonialists and regain their Ottoman style privileges on our expense.

The Cypriot people will continue to fight for freedom and self-determination and our right to decide the destiny of our own island in a democratic way. After our enemies recognize our rights and stop trying to impose on us their will, then we will forgive them again.
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Postby miltiades » Sun May 10, 2009 2:48 pm

Which is more corrupt , the Greek Orthodox Church of Cyprus or the British MPs !!
I have examples and true stories about this corrupt bunch of religious manipulators , the nonsense they preach and the garbage that they instill in naive peoples' minds.
We follow tradition because we have to identify with our culture.
When I was born , my late father paraded himself in the village square , he was a communist , protesting that in order to become a Christian one had to pay ONE shilling. This was the charge way back in 1946 .
My father refused to pay and demanded that the priest carries out his Christian duties and baptise me for free just as Jesus was baptized by John the baptist for free.
My kindly god mother , RIP , intervened , paid the fee and had me Christened as well as given the last rites at home. I had pneumonia and was given up with no chance, little did they know that Miltiades had other ideas !!
The earthquaqe of 1953 and events that followed shaped my thinking on the Curch and religion in general .
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Postby Paphitis » Sun May 10, 2009 3:53 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Read the quoted text from Henry Kissinger's address on Hellenism (in Bold)
Subject: Κύπρος - Assaulting the Hellenic Civilisation
Συμβούλιον Ελληνικής Προαγωγής HELLENIC ADVANCEMENT COUNCIL [1][1] (since the sixties)
30th April 2004
Excellencies, Presidents_
- Taso Papadopoule, - Constantine Stephanopoule, - George W Bush, - Secretary General Kofi Anan, - Lords, - Honourables - Tony Blair, - Costa Karamanli, - John Howard,
- Giorgo Iakovou, - Petro Molyviote, - G Ferheugen, - Secretary of State Colin Powell,
- Alvaro De Soto, - Alexander Downer, - Weston, - Senators, Congressmen, - Representatives, - Officials, of - - Governments and Parliaments of Hellas, Cyprus, USA, Britain, - Delegates, Officials, of the Security Council, the UNO, the European Commission, and the EU, Ladies and Gentlemen

ASSAULTING THE HELLENIC CIVILISATION:

Profoundly, Henry Kissinger went so far as to deliver an extremely anti-Hellenic speech, full of bitter hate, in Washington during his awarding by the local business people; in September 1994. Let us study it -
"The Greek people is hard to govern and this we must hit deep in their civilising foundations. Then, maybe, it shall concede. That is I mean, to knock the language, the religion, the spiritual and historical legacies, to neutralise all their possibilities to develop, to be distinguished, to prevail, so as not to disturb us in the Balkans, not to disturb in the Eastern Mediterranean, in the Middle East, throughout all this crucial region of great strategic significance for us, for USA's policies" (Nemesis periodical: issue 35, 20.2.1997)

That means, not much not little, this indescribable Kissinger demands the disappearance of our Hellas and whatever reminds Hellas! And with the "Anan Scheme" for a Cyprus solution, which legalises Denktash's colonists, and leaves a window wide open for yet many more, intending to alter the demographic composition and the Hellenic-Orthodox character of our Megalonesos. Does not what that complex Kissinger demands is to be fulfilled by the Anan plan?

In effect the "plan" even directed an assault on the Cypriots' Hellenic civilisation with its provisions to prohibit their Hellenic education, their history, their observances, the Hellenic flag and the Hellenic "Freedom Hymn", the remembrance of their ethno-martyrs (i.e.no history of the heroic EOKA struggle, no Gregory Afxentiou, no Caraolis, no Hellenic expression, no Hellenic festivals, nothing Hellenic, and therefore no Olympics or other games), etc. etc. The rejection of such uncanny
demands is what has shocked and enraged Turkey's "unholy alliance". This brings to memory the English prohibition of the Scottish culture on penalty of instant shooting, which lasted some two centuries. Apparently even now they have not learnt anything about civilisations. Is not that what the British Colonial Office were aiming at, when some fifty years ago, they demanded to get the control of Cyprus' public education. This encountered stiff resistance from the people and their President Archbishop Makarios. Now again, the West has not learnt their lessons from the past In the words of Mogens N.J. Camre, Member of The European Parliament (Danish People's Party) theirs is "the typical way of trying to interfere in affairs, which the diplomats do not understand - they believe that they can freely change the nationality and ethnic links of people if it suits their false picture of the world". And, have some Greek leaders (politicians, government, and opposition) parted from their Hellenic senses? Unbelievably they espouse this vicious Helleno-cidal "plan", and even after its fatal rejection they still speak of reviving it for another referendum. This anti-Hellenic Anan plan must forever be buried and
forgotten in the rubbish tip

PROTEST

This Council and its community fellow-organisations submit their protest [for absolutely not the "OHI!" "No!" of the Cypriot people in Saturday's (24th April 2004) to the infamous Anan Plan, but for how much, behind the scenes, both Greece's and Cyprus' sides gave away; it is said they gave away metaphorically "land and air". While Turkish diplomacy was more efficient, these sides proved very docile and naive with their always highly principled approach, and made sizeable concessions to the opposite negotiating sides, which resulted in this deplorable situation

Thus in this case, they are suspected that they have given away too much ground, almost selling away national interests for pleasing one or another quarter and patrons. In their timidity they have failed to make demands whereas Turkey has made aggressive indeed demands (11 points that no one, in the right mind, would accept for their country and people) which the UNO Secretary-General unquestionably incorporated in his infamous "plan", then pressured the Cypriots to accept all the unacceptable. Hellenes do not succumb to pressures and this has decisively galvanised them against his apartheid "plan". The world is reminded that this Cyprus "OHI!" is tantamount to the Hellas' "OHI!" of the 28th October 1940 against the superior Axis powers, which gave our WW2 Allies their first relief with victories in the Albanian battlefront and subsequently gave them much strategic time to prepare their defences and armaments for the final victory. The UNO Secretary-General is now blamed for duplicity and so are all his accomplices and patrons. It is a protest at, as it is reported, that both Greece and Cyprus have undertaken not to vet the negotiations for Turkey's accession to the European Union. This is a grave mistake, because surrendering this mighty right, Cyprus is left defencless in the mercy of its adversaries. Still the Turkish side and their accomplices cannot count on such goodwill undertakings, as Cyprus and Greece can still reverse them, in the worst case of failing to gain a Cyprus fair and viable solution. Neither can Turks and their accomplices talk about partition, international recognition, and whatever else, as none of these do lead to a fairer and viable solution and more so it leaves them out of EU accession. This may adversely affect also the accession of further candidate countries. Such are the likely effects of Turkish recalcitrance. In very definite terms this is a protest against the Hellenes for having so outrageously stated their goodwill intentions to not use their vetting rights in the EU. Doing this when vital national concerns are still at stake is utterly ludicrous

As well this is a particular protest against the over three decades of apathy and duplicity on the part of USA, UK, and servile international bodies over the Cyprus tragedy, and now in sudden comparison their duplicitous agonising over the rightly democratic decision of Cypriots to command their own affairs. Where have they been all this time? What right have they for interfering in Cypriot's affairs now since they have not intervened for them for some three decades? In fact USA (Henry Kissinger and Sisco) created this tragedy by sending the Turks to capture Northern Cyprus; and consequently theirs is the obligation to undo that duplicity by every means. More so, this is a protest against the UNO Secretary-General's duplicity in including the latest Turkish 11 points demands in his "plan" well knowing that those terms were not negotiated, meaning an "apartheid regime" over the Cypriots, and the

Turkish hegemony and expansionism in Eastern Mediterranean.


All are now expressing outrage and criticism about the referenda results. They put the blame on the Greek side. No our deadly friends, for unjustly aiding and abetting the offending aggressor over the victim, the blame lies squarely on the UNO Secretary-General, on Alvaro De Soto, Lord Hanay, on Colin Powell, Weston, and on all the insensitive prima donnas of the international scene. Again, in the words of Mogens N.J. Camre, Member of The European Parliament (Danish People's Party) theirs is "the typical way of trying to interfere in affairs, which the diplomats do not understand - they believe that they can freely change the nationality and ethnic links of people if it suits their false picture of the world". Now it is doubtful if the UNO Secretary-General has any sensitivity on matters of "apartheid regime" and for supporting and revisiting the all too evident Turkish neo-imperialist expansionism and its "unholy alliance".

The blundering West cannot draw comfort from that Cypriot Turks in the occupied North have voted yes. Theirs is tantamount to the "OHI" of the free Cyprus. Both aim at getting rid of the Raouf Denktash tyranny, his pseudo-presidency and pseudo-government; both aim at shedding off the Turkish oppression. Rescuing Turkey's occupation in Cyprus is what the Secretary General and his accomplices have set about to secure to perpetuity. Political equality? What is it when refugee citizens are forbidden to return to their homelands, and the few, who would be allowed to return, would be deprived of their voting rights and human privileges? Such and more are the unacceptable blunders of the Anan apartheid plan

Let us visualise a picture of the future. For replenishing the likely losses of population in the Turkish occupied North, they demanded that colonists be brought in from Turkey. Population losses shall certainly occur in the North as Turks leave for better opportunities in the South, yet still most of them, after acquiring Cypriot passports, flock to Germany, Sweden, and generally the EU. The process of bringing colonists from Turkey shall be gathering greater momentum. Northern Cyprus shall thus continue to be the transit point for all kinds of human traffickers with illegal immigrants, destined to flock to European countries. Germany already has some seven millions of Turks and, how about getting another ten millions? Will other EU countries each get some 10 million Turks and other immigrants via Northern Cyprus? Other illegal immigrants shall be Africans, Asians, South East Asians, etc, etc, all provided with Cypriot EU passports. The Seingen treaty shall thus be circumvent by Turkish traffickers of illegal colonists. In fact, their principal need to access the EU is to flock there by their mass myriads

The Cypriot "OHI" was felt like the Krakatoe erruption all over the world

Solution and reunification was not what Cypriots rejected on 24th April 2004, neither did they turn their backs on their Turkish
fellow-citizens. Most categorically, rejected was a monstrous hodgepodge of ethno-cidal impediments, the types of which no human society would tolerate. Even the Security Council would not give, under section 7 of its charter, guarantees of security for the "plan". The instigators of that "plan" themselves would never allow such a monstrosity to be imposed on their own country and people. Divine providence and good national leadership spared all Cypriots from apartheid as was inflicted on South Africans for many decades

For instance would USA or UK or any other country accept to abolish itself within 24 hours of a referendum? Then what madness would relegate Cyprus (recognised member of the Commonwealth, the EU, and the UNO, with equal rights) to a non-entity and thus demand that it should abolish itself within 24 hours, in addition to subject its people (Greeks, Turks, and
others alike) to an apartheid regime, and under Turkish hegemony (native Cypriot Turks of the North still suffer under Turkey's boot)?

Indeed, BBC attributed the result to, as it described it, the "powerful speech by President Papadopoulos". Thanks and congratulations to the President. It should be emphasised again that 18% Turks are not the only constituents that matter. In case our deadly friends forget, 78% are Greek constituents. As well there are Armenians, Franco-levantines, Europeans, and other constituents in the Island country. About demographical assessments a general census every 5 years, shall establish the ethnic, faiths, and languages composition. Now, having reached this stage, there must be no delay and Cyprus must wrest the initiative, to also help out its Turkish along with all its other citizens, and to take the Turks of the entire Cyprus under its legal, national, and EU wings (relevant proposals in near future)

After all their charades, the "cowboy" mindset of USA is sharply demonstrated in the following extract of the New York Times: "A Destructive Vote in Cyprus - Tuesday, April 27, 2004; Page A24:
..... The only way to restore any chance for reunification now is for the E.U. and the United States to get tough, by lifting economic sanctions on the Turkish north and sharply limiting aid to the Greek south" Get tough? Why? The Cyprus tragedy is USA's doing who is responsible to correct it by every means, and in so speaking the West is shamelessly ungrateful to a long-standing faithful friend, in favour of a convicted offending aggressor. Reunification will come when Turkey does realize that it cannot but to come to terms with it neighbours, so as to enter the EU Who does one think live in, as the editor has arbitrated, the "Turkish north"? Most of The native Cypriot Turks have voted away with their feet, i.e. they quit the place in order to get away of Turkey's yoke. The majority of those remaining are colonists, most of whom were convict criminals who were let out of Turkish prisons on condition to occupy that north, and soldiers who are trying to be incorporated into the colonist population. These are the Turkish sweethearts of the West Colonists/settlers - The Geneva Convention of 1949, section III, article 49, prohibits colonization by an occupying power. Section III of the Geneva Convention deals with Occupied Territories. Article 49 states in its last paragraph: "The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."

Today there are reported estimates of over 100,000 illegal Turkish colonists in Cyprus To that NYT's editorial, Mr Gene Rossides, President of the American Hellenic Institute, and former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, replied on April 27, 2004, as follows - " The editorial (4-27-04) on the UN plan for Cyprus misses the mark. The Greek Cypriot vote of 75.9% against the plan was a vote for the rule of law, which that plan violated on a number of key points.
" The UN plan wiped out Turkey's brutal aggression in 1974, which violated the UN Charter. The European Commission on Human Rights found Turkey guilty of the "killing of innocent civilians . . . on a substantial scale . . . the rape of women of all ages from 12 to 71," and "creating more than 170,000 Greek Cypriot refugees."

" The UN plan allows most of the 100,000 illegal Turkish colonists to remain in violation of the Geneva Convention which prohibits colonization by the occupying power. It allows a number of Turkish troops to remain with the right of intervention. It penalizes the Greek Cypriot property owners and perpetuates ethnic divisions. The double standard on the rule of law for Turkey is harmful to U.S. interests.

" The Greek Cypriot vote was not "destructive" as asserted. It was a vote for the rule of law and a functional and viable solution. It was a vote against rewarding the Turkish aggressor and punishing the Greek Cypriot victims. That vote made Cyprus the conscience of the West on the rule of law."

As for the blundering West, before shedding crocodile tears and blaming the Russian veto in the Security Council, Giorgo Iakovou, and whatever else in their frustration for failing to inflict their machinations, they should first have their soul-searching and, - now at last Mr G Ferheugen rightly begins blaming Turkey for having blocked the solution, with her accomplices' blessings, persistently for some three decades, constantly insisting that the matter was resolved with their 1974 Attila invasion. Again, the blame is not on Cypriots for defending their ethnicity and country by exercising their free choice, but squarely: - on Turkey for her 3 decades of intransigence, and for having demanded the last 11 unacceptable points, - on the Secretary-General for wiping out the rule of law, all the UNO resolutions on Cyprus, and for unquestionably incorporating Turkey's recent undiscussed aggressive demands in his apartheid "plan", and for pressuring Cypriots to accept all these unacceptables, - on USA and UK for flagrantly abetting these actions

With due regards

G.Eleftheriades

George Savvas Eleftheriades, OAM, JP
President, Convener

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ΓΟΝΕΙΣ, ξυπνάτε! Γιατί κοιμάστε ακόμα; Ποιος από εσάς έχει ανοίξει το βιβλίο Ιστορίας της ΣΤ’ Δημοτικού; Ανοίξτε το έστω και σήμερα, για να διαπιστώσετε με ποια επιτήδεια διαστρέβλωση και αποσιώπηση ή εξιδανίκευση γεγονότων, επιχειρείται η ιστοριο-τύφλωση των παιδιών μας. Στην Ελλάδα γίνεται ο χαμός, με αντιδράσεις Πανεπιστημιακών, δασκάλων, καθηγητών, επιστημόνων, συγγραφέων, ιστορικών, πνευματικών ανθρώπων και όσων νοιάζονται για την Ιστορία. Στην Κύπρο, σιωπή κοιμητηρίου. Ούτε η ΠΟΕΔ ούτε οι γονείς αλλ’ ούτε και το Υπουργείο Παιδείας αντέδρασαν. Απλώς, το Υπουργείο περιορίστηκε σε κάποιες επισημάνσεις για το κεφάλαιο που αναφέρεται στην Κύπρο. Για το υπόλοιπο βιβλίο, τσιμουδιά. Πλήρης αδιαφορία για την ιστορική απονεύρωση και αφυδάτωση, στην οποία προβαίνει αυτό το επαίσχυντο βιβλίο. Με αυτό γίνεται η πρώτη συνειδητή προσπάθεια δημιουργίας Ελλήνων βλακών, που θα έχουν μια στρεβλή, πλαδαρή, ανοσοποιημένη και εξανδραποδισμένη εκδοχή της Ιστορίας, με αποκοπή τους από τη συλλογική μνήμη και συνείδηση.
Ιδού παραδείγματα: Η Οθωμανική Αυτοκρατορία εξωραΐζεται και εξιδανικεύεται με την αποσιώπηση, παραποίηση ή παρερμηνεία ιστορικών γεγονότων. Οι κατακτημένοι και υπόδουλοι Έλληνες εμφανίζονται να συμβιώνουν αρμονικότατα με τους Τούρκους σφαγείς των! Καμία αναφορά στη στυγνή δουλεία, σε σφαγές (όπως π.χ. της Χίου, που αποτυπώθηκε από Ευρωπαίους περιφανείς ζωγράφους). Καμία αναφορά στα παιδομαζώματα, στα σκλαβοπάζαρα, στις ταπεινώσεις, στους εξισλαμισμούς, στους γενίτσαρους. Η λέξη «γενίτσαρος» δεν αναφέρεται πουθενά. Εξάλλου υποβαθμίζεται πλήρως ο ρόλος της Εκκλησίας στα μαύρα χρόνια της σκλαβιάς και κατά την Ελληνική Επανάσταση. Αποσιωπάται η σημασία της ορθόδοξης παράδοσής μας, η ενεργός συμμετοχή της Εκκλησίας στον αγώνα και το ότι θυσιάστηκαν 11 Πατριάρχες, 100 επίσκοποι και πάνω από 6.000 ιερείς και καλόγεροι στον κατά των Τούρκων αγώνα.
Η Ελληνική Επανάσταση εξιστορείται στεγνά, απόμακρα και άνευρα. Δεν αναφέρεται πουθενά ο εθνικός και θρησκευτικός συμβολισμός για την έναρξη της Επανάστασης, δηλ. η 25η Μαρτίου. Οι θυσίες, τα ανδραγαθήματα, οι ηρωισμοί, τα μαρτύρια και η αστείρευτη αγωνιστικότητα των Ελλήνων έχουν παραγραφεί. Στη θέση τους γίνεται αναφορά στα… αιτήματα διαφόρων ομάδων. Η ηρωική έξοδος του Μεσολογγίου αναφέρεται απλώς ως «η κίνηση των πολιορκημένων Ελλήνων να βγουν από το φρούριο»! Ως εάν να ήθελαν να πάνε… εκδρομή και όχι, ότι οι δυστυχείς Μεσολογγίτες φτάσανε στο σημείο να τρώνε ακόμα και ποντίκια, για να επιβιώσουν. Κι όταν επιχείρησαν την έξοδο, κατασφάχτηκαν, γυναικόπαιδα και αγωνιστές μαζί. Και ότι ο Καψάλης έβαλε μπουρλότο στις πυριτιδαποθήκες για να μην πέσουν σκλάβοι στα χέρια των Τούρκων. Η πιο επονείδιστη, όμως, και ενσυνείδητη διαστροφή της Ιστορίας, που μόνον διεστραμμένος και κατευθυνόμενος εγκέφαλος θα μπορούσε να διαπράξει, αφορά τη Μικρασιατική Καταστροφή.
«Στις 27 Αυγούστου 1922 ο τουρκικός στρατός μπαίνει στη Σμύρνη. Χιλιάδες Έλληνες συνωστίζονται στο λιμάνι προσπαθώντας να μπουν στα πλοία και να φύγουν για την Ελλάδα». Συνωστίζονται! Προφανώς για να αγοράσουν ταχύτερα το εισιτήριο επιστροφής! Ούτε λέξη για τις σφαγές Ελλήνων και Αρμενίων από τον Ελληνοκτόνο Ατατούρκ. Γράφει η Ιφιγένεια Χρυσοχόου, («Πυρπολημένη Γη»): «Μέσ’ στο μακελειό, τα κλάματα, τα ξεφωνητά, έφυγαν από τους Τούρκους, τρέχοντας σαν παλαβοί φτάσανε στο ‘‘Και’’ (αποβάθρα)… Στα πλάγια η θάλασσα λερωμένη και τα πτώματα τουμπανιασμένα να χτυπολογιούνται αναμεταξύ τους…». Θα συνεχίσουμε και αύριο.
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ΟΛΒΙΟΣ όστις της Ιστορίας έσχε μάθησιν! Αλλά ποια Ιστορία διδάσκουν σήμερα στα παιδιά της ΣΤ’ Δημοτικού; Αυτήν, προφανώς, που υποβάλλει ότι οι Έλληνες… συνωστίζονταν στην προκυμαία της Σμύρνης, δίνοντας μάχη για ένα εισιτήριο επιστροφής στην Ελλάδα και όχι για το ξερίζωμα και τη δραματική φυγή 1,5 εκατομμυρίου Ελλήνων από τις ορδές των Τσετών και των Τούρκων σφαγέων τους. Χτες καλούσαμε τους γονείς να δουν πώς επιχειρείται η ιστορική αφυδάτωση των παιδιών τους και να αντιδράσουν. Πρώτα απαιτώντας από την ΠΟΕΔ να εξηγήσει τη σιωπή και την ανοχή της. Ύστερα απαιτώντας εξηγήσεις από το Υπουργείο Παιδείας. Και τέλος, καταφεύγοντας στο γνωστό περιοδικό «Αντίβαρο» και διά της ηλεκτρονικής ψήφου των να απαιτήσουν την απόσυρση και το ξαναγράψιμο του βιβλίου. Ιδού η ηλεκτρονική διεύθυνση του περιοδικού: http://www.antibaro.gr. Εκεί θα βρουν πλειάδα κειμένων πανεπιστημιακών και εκπαιδευτικών, που αναλύουν το έγκλημα, που επιχειρείται σε βάρος της ελληνικής Ιστορίας και των παιδιών μας.
Τι ήταν οι Κλέφτες; «Ένοπλη αντίσταση θεωρείται και η δράση των κλεφτών. Οι κλέφτες συγκροτούν ένοπλες ομάδες, κάνουν επιθέσεις… σε κρατικούς αξιωματούχους…, αρπάζοντας χρήματα, όπλα, τρόφιμα» (σελ. 32). Οι φημισμένοι Κλέφτες, που με τους Αρματωλούς αποτέλεσαν την πρώτη ένοπλη αντίσταση στον Τούρκο δυνάστη, με μικρό κάπα. Δηλ. υποβάλλεται στα παιδιά μας ότι επρόκειτο για κοινούς κλέφτες, που σήμερα θα θεωρούσαμε υποκείμενα του κοινού ποινικού δικαίου, που επετίθεντο σε «κρατικούς αξιωματούχους». Και ποιοι ήταν αυτοί; Ήταν οι σουλτάνοι, οι πασάδες, οι αγάδες, οι λογής-λογής αξιωματούχοι του Τούρκου κατακτητή, που κρατούσαν υπόδ=E


There is a far larger issue here.

I myself am not religious but recognize the value of the Greek Orthodox Church. The Church itself played a very big role in assisting Cypriots survive oppression and tyranny against those that tried to enslave us over many centuries. Believing in God or not is irrellevent, but one can not deny that the Greek Orthodox Church has given us strength in our darkest hours and this has at the very least helped us survive and even prevail.

The Greek Orthodox Church has every right to express opinions on matters such as the Annan Plan. They have a moral obligation to protect the people of Cyprus from hidden dangers such as the Annan Plan.

There are powers that wish to destroy our religion and ETHNOS because they fully know that it is this that protects our national identity, custom and cohesion as a people. It is this they wish to undermine in order to make us ALL vulnerable to their will. They will try and infiltrate and undermine us.

This is what I wrote some time ago and it is worthy of more discussion:

Those that wish to eradicate or deny the existence of Hellenism in Cyprus really do need to reflect exactly who's interests they are either knowingly or unknowingly supporting.

Firstly, we should all consider it an honour that someone of the magnitude of Henry Kissinger wishes to single out our [b]ETHNOS
as the last bastion of resistance against those powers that wish to destroy our national identity, religion, customs and cohesion. Every other race and nation has been infiltrated, and is now being undermined to the point where those in power are able to manipulate and coerce world events to their liking so that their interests are fulfilled all in the name of power, greed, money and maintaining the current balance of power all over the world, where the current superpowers maintain today's monopoly and their existing domination.

In order to face our current Goliath, we need to think more laterally. It is time to think outside the box and ask ourselves why current developments are occurring. By doing this we will be better able to ascertain who's interests are being met by the current political manoeuvring. Think about The Anan Plan, why it was designed and written in the way it was and why the Cypriot people rejected it. Also analyse more recent developments such as the altering of History books by the Cyprus Education Department, and try to work out the real reasons behind this. Think about the current peace negotiations for a BBF solution which will effectively legitimise the permanent partition of Cyprus, and may very well be our ultimate destruction.

We need to be vigilant and united when facing our one and only enemy, Turkey. We must not detach ourselves from our ETHNIC heritage. This is exactly what those in power would want us to do, in order to permanently partition our island and obtain a tighter grip on the whole region. We need to be united, because if we are not, then we will not prevail. We will not prevail as we will continuously be prodded and pushed towards that which we do not desire. They will inflict numerous plans upon us, which we may reject in the short term. However, plans such as the Anan Plan or other BBF type solutions will continuously be presented to us until we finally accept such a solution for the benefit of others and not ourselves. Those in power believe they can achieve this by destroying our national identity and resolve. They intend to crush our character and spirit, which will result in our acceptance of any solution which will not only legitimise Turkey's gains and permanent partition, but could very well lead to our complete destruction.

Before some of you ridicule this thread, please consider that this is a very serious topic and is deserving of serious discussion and debate.

Just remember to always expect and plan for the worst possible outcome. Because only then will we truly appreciate the Goliath we face. Only then can we set effective strategies and goals to avoid the worst possible scenarios.

Those that attack Hellenism and Greece, have already fallen. The rest of us need to focus on the dangers we face, otherwise we will fall as well over time, and then the war is lost.

There is plenty of information in this thread, so analyse carefully, and think laterally!
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Postby Get Real! » Sun May 10, 2009 3:58 pm

Paphitis wrote:ASSAULTING THE HELLENIC CIVILISATION:

:shock: Oh, Lord NO! :( :cry:

MENDOZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
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Postby Paphitis » Sun May 10, 2009 4:03 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:ASSAULTING THE HELLENIC CIVILISATION:

:shock: Oh, Lord NO! :( :cry:

MENDOZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!


Do not fear GR! :shock:

Paphitis is here and is always willing to show you the light....:lol:

You don't need to thank me! :P
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Postby Oracle » Sun May 10, 2009 4:33 pm

H.H. the Dalai Lama said once about how he sees himself as a spiritual leader pointing the way to 'positive ethical conduct' amongst people who are invariably tied up with politics ... and I think this is the tradition the Greek Orthodox monks and priests have been upholding for Centuries.

They are the reason the Turks attack our religion so strongly and destroy our monuments to this spiritual and ethnic ethos ... paralleled again by what the Chinese have destroyed in Tibet.

The GO Church, with or without a god, is central to the majority of natives on Cyprus and without it, the Turks have collectively crucified us ....
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun May 10, 2009 5:58 pm

Oracle wrote:The GO Church, with or without a god, is central to the majority of natives on Cyprus and without it, the Turks have collectively crucified us ....


But the GO! GO! GO! church, with or without a God, was established by Jews... the co-religionists of the evil Zionist, neo-con architect of Cyprus's destruction (he who we all love to hate).

Jews like Barnabas and Paul, who sold us their thoroughly Jewish Messiah stories, and through him the thoroughly Jewish Old-Testament stories, like David and Goliath, and Samson (remember him?); and an entirely Judeo-centric cosmology and world order.

So, far from remaining true to "Hellenist ideals" and "spiritual and ethnic ethnos" (yuck!), it could very well be argued that our autocephalous Church is a living example of how Cyprus has already been successfully inflitrated by the very Semites who continue, to this day, to scheme against it for their own nefarious ends.
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