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The Greek Orthodox Church is all about opening people's eyes, ...

Who is going to open their eyes?

[Piratis]

This is not about how correct the opinions of the leadership of the Church are.

The article claims that they are supposedly an "enemy", and this is what is absolute nonsense.

The Archbishop has the right to have an opinion like every other citizen of Cyprus. Beyond that, how much influence he has depends entirely on how many Cypriots trust his opinion.

The Church has absolutely no power to enforce something which is against the will of the majority of Cypriots. So how could the Church be an "enemy"? The enemies are those who show disrespect to the democratic will of the Cypriot people and they use brute force in order to impose on us their will.

[The Cypriot]

You ought to see the hateful, racist, ultra-right wing material that the Orthodox Church has allowed to be distributed from within its buildings in the UK. Material that has recently attracted the attention of the Police for breaching public order laws.

Perhaps the law will open their eyes. The same law that is now forcing Turkey to open its eyes.

[Oracle]

You ought to see the hateful, racist, ultra-right wing material that the Orthodox Church has allowed to be distributed from within its buildings in the UK. Material that has recently attracted the attention of the Police for breaching public order laws.

Perhaps the law will open their eyes. The same law that is now forcing Turkey to open its eyes.

Would this be the same Police force that ignores Islamic extremist material for fear of lighting the fuel? So they pick on the most law abiding citizens to vent their ball-less anger?

Yup, shoot an innocent Brazilian to look like the Law is being enforced

[The Cypriot]

Would this be the same Police force that ignores Islamic extremist material for fear of lighting the fuel?

The law exists to challenge such extremist material, whichever religion promotes it. But perhaps there is fear which prohibits people registering the crime; or in pursuing the police to take appropriate action in accordance with the law. The law can be a bitch to pursue; but when you do pursue it you can get results. Apostolides is testimony to this.

So they pick on the most law abiding citizens to vent their ball-less anger?

The people producing and distributing this hateful material are not law-abiding. As I explained, there are serious breaches of the public order act that are being investigated.

Yup, shoot an innocent Brazilian to look like the Law is being enforced

Not sure this is relevant. I have little faith in the police force and the way it conducts itself. But, as I said, the material being distributed is far from innocent.

[Oracle]

Would this be the same Police force that ignores Islamic extremist material for fear of lighting the fuel?

The law exists to challenge such extremist material, whichever religion promotes it. But perhaps there is fear which prohibits people registering the crime; or in pursuing the police to take appropriate action in accordance with the law. The law can be a bitch to pursue; but when you do pursue it you can get results. Apostolides is testimony to this.

So they pick on the most law abiding citizens to vent their ball-less anger?

The people producing and distributing this hateful material are not law-abiding. As I explained, there are serious breaches of the public order act that are being investigated.

Yup, shoot an innocent Brazilian to look like the Law is being enforced

Not sure this is relevant. I have little faith in the police force and the way it conducts itself. But, as I said, the material being distributed is far from innocent.

Well, I have not seen any of this material and I find it rather puzzling that the GO Church has been insensitive, so would you kindly give us a gist, or reproduce the contents of these leaflets ... because I hate the thought of scapegoats

The "Brazilian" reference was because I suspect the Police force had to look pro-active, but they could not risk shooting an innocent "Muslim" as that would have really inflamed the situation ... so they picked on a normally sanguine "race" and did their dirty deed!

Same perhaps with the GO Church ... they (Police) know if they got it wrong, the GCs being a placid lot, would not react as badly as any Muslims ... who are constantly testing them ... yet they (Police) have to turn a blind eye!

[The Cypriot]

Well, I have not seen any of this material and I find it rather puzzling that the GO Church has been insensitive,

I hope you know me well enough now, O, to realise that I don't post stuff like this without there being substance. I assure you this lack of appropriate sensitivity has gone all the way to the top.

so would you kindly give us a gist, or reproduce the contents of these leaflets ... because I hate the thought of scapegoats

To protect the innocent I am not prepared to give details. What I can say is that what has been distributed is racist, hateful, libelous, as well as highly inflammatory; with the potential to endanger the safety of many innocent people, both UK Cypriots and non-UK-Cypriots alike. It is why the Police are treating the matter seriously.

The "Brazilian" reference was because I suspect the Police force had to look pro-active, but they could not risk shooting an innocent "Muslim" as that would have really inflamed the situation ... so they picked on a normally sanguine "race" and did their dirty deed!

I cannot comment.

Same perhaps with the GO Church ... they (Police) know if they got it wrong, the GCs being a placid lot,

What has been published is far from placid.... And the reaction that's had to be taken is far from placid either. Which is why the Police are involved.

[Oracle]

Well then we are at a dead end, despite my trusting your word 100% .... I cannot comment on the contents which I have not seen.

I do know you are harsher on our "own" then others and trust the GO Church is being singled out because, as I suspect, they (Police) just want to make an example of the sorts of things which are unacceptable ... but they (Police) are too afraid to pick on the more Polemic elements of British society ....

[The Cypriot]

Well then we are at a dead end, despite my trusting your word 100% .... I cannot comment on the contents which I have not seen.

Thanks. I wouldn't expect you too; but consider only if they were also personal.

I do know you are harsher on our "own" then others .

I have incredibly high standards, and the more capable you happen to be the more I expect from you.

and trust the GO Church is being singled out because, as I suspect, they (Police) just want to make an example of the sorts of things which are unacceptable ...

I assure you that's not the case in this instance. The Law is being used as a tool. Like how Apostolides has used it.

[Oracle]

I have incredibly high standards, and the more capable you happen to be the more I expect from you.

Oh my Greek mother .... spoken like a true Hellenic!




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