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Re: 1915: Greece refuses to annex Cyprus

Postby denizaksulu » Sun May 10, 2009 10:19 am

DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
The Island of Cyprus has been offered by Great Britain to Greece on condition that she joins the war on the side of the Allies. Annoucement of this offer is made in two London newspapers this morning.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h ... 946496D6CF

Why do you think Venizelos rejected the above offer?

Having in mind the disastrous events in Asia minor, I reckon because he feared he couldn't keep it. I think he made the right choice.



What was the date of the Kataklysmos in Mikri Asiatiki? :roll:


It was after. I know that. :wink:

What I meant is whether he could predict that a new front, in Cyprus, could not have been handled.

Thereby, he chose to leave Cyprus in British command to protect her. Anyway, it's just a guess. :)



I thought that perhaps he had consulted the oracles of Delhi.

I forgive you. :wink:

No, seriously though, only fools would trust empty British promises. Look at the promises made to the Arabs and the Jews.


The Oracles of Delhi Deniz would have proposed a good out-sourcing solution.



I did have a 'P' somewhere. It got lost. Should have been 'Delphi'. :oops:
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Re: 1915: Greece refuses to annex Cyprus

Postby Oracle » Sun May 10, 2009 10:36 am

denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
The Island of Cyprus has been offered by Great Britain to Greece on condition that she joins the war on the side of the Allies. Annoucement of this offer is made in two London newspapers this morning.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h ... 946496D6CF

Why do you think Venizelos rejected the above offer?

Having in mind the disastrous events in Asia minor, I reckon because he feared he couldn't keep it. I think he made the right choice.



What was the date of the Kataklysmos in Mikri Asiatiki? :roll:


It was after. I know that. :wink:

What I meant is whether he could predict that a new front, in Cyprus, could not have been handled.

Thereby, he chose to leave Cyprus in British command to protect her. Anyway, it's just a guess. :)



I thought that perhaps he had consulted the oracles of Delhi.

I forgive you. :wink:

No, seriously though, only fools would trust empty British promises. Look at the promises made to the Arabs and the Jews.


The Oracles of Delhi Deniz would have proposed a good out-sourcing solution.



I did have a 'P' somewhere. It got lost. Should have been 'Delphi'. :oops:


Deniz, how many times have I told you to mind your 'P's and 'Q's?
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Re: 1915: Greece refuses to annex Cyprus

Postby barouti » Sun May 10, 2009 12:47 pm

kurupetos wrote:
The Island of Cyprus has been offered by Great Britain to Greece on condition that she joins the war on the side of the Allies. Annoucement of this offer is made in two London newspapers this morning.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h ... 946496D6CF

Why do you think Venizelos rejected the above offer?

Having in mind the disastrous events in Asia minor, I reckon because he feared he couldn't keep it. I think he made the right choice.


Before jumping online and yap-yap-yapping away, maybe you should have bothered to read the article in its entirety before making a jackass out of yourself.

A bit of historical background: the Greek king, Constantine, who coincidently was married to the Kaiser’s sister, was quite sympathetic towards the Central Powers and wanted to keep Greece neutral at all costs. Venizelos, on the other hand, was quite eager for Greece to get involved in the war on the Entente side. And there was such a clash between Constantine and Venizelos on the issue that by October 1915 the king dismissed the latter and replaced him with Zaimis.

That article states the offer was rejected by Zaimis and not Venizelos. So you obviously didn’t read the article. You just read the headline and made the rest of it up. It once more proves why the words Turks, accepting and history do not mix well together (a la Ataturk’s Turkish History Thesis).

Anyway back to topic, there were a lot of secret agreements made between the Entente before and during the war, "secret" being the keyword here, as well as heavy wartime censorship. And yet this “official” offer was made public?

But even if there was an offer made in 1915, by 1918 the British weren’t obligated to fulfil any promises especially with Greece. As stipulated by the US president Wilson’s 14 points, all secret agreements made between the Entente were to become void anyway. Even the Italians had apparently “agreed” in principle to return the Dodecanese to Greece after the war, but after the Asia Minor catastrophe they decided to keep them after all.
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Re: 1915: Greece refuses to annex Cyprus

Postby kurupetos » Sun May 10, 2009 3:07 pm

barouti wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
The Island of Cyprus has been offered by Great Britain to Greece on condition that she joins the war on the side of the Allies. Annoucement of this offer is made in two London newspapers this morning.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h ... 946496D6CF

Why do you think Venizelos rejected the above offer?

Having in mind the disastrous events in Asia minor, I reckon because he feared he couldn't keep it. I think he made the right choice.


Before jumping online and yap-yap-yapping away, maybe you should have bothered to read the article in its entirety before making a jackass out of yourself.

That article states the offer was rejected by Zaimis and not Venizelos. So you obviously didn’t read the article. You just read the headline and made the rest of it up. It once more proves why the words Turks, accepting and history do not mix well together (a la Ataturk’s Turkish History Thesis).



I read the article. Did you read it? :? Can you quote where it states Zaimis rejected the offer? Are you insane? :lol: The article was written the day following the offer! It could not have been rejected on the spot.
The proposal is now being considered by the Greek government


Therfore, the article clearly states the offer is under consideration by the Greek government! :roll:

Finally, I return this back to you:

Before jumping online and yap-yap-yapping away, maybe you should have bothered to read the article in its entirety before making a jackass out of yourself.


8) :lol:
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Postby Byron » Sun May 10, 2009 3:19 pm

All propaganda. There is no official document to suggest that Britain offered Cyprus to Greece other than newspaper articles and talk politic.
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Re: 1915: Greece refuses to annex Cyprus

Postby denizaksulu » Sun May 10, 2009 6:08 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
The Island of Cyprus has been offered by Great Britain to Greece on condition that she joins the war on the side of the Allies. Annoucement of this offer is made in two London newspapers this morning.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h ... 946496D6CF

Why do you think Venizelos rejected the above offer?

Having in mind the disastrous events in Asia minor, I reckon because he feared he couldn't keep it. I think he made the right choice.



What was the date of the Kataklysmos in Mikri Asiatiki? :roll:


It was after. I know that. :wink:

What I meant is whether he could predict that a new front, in Cyprus, could not have been handled.

Thereby, he chose to leave Cyprus in British command to protect her. Anyway, it's just a guess. :)



I thought that perhaps he had consulted the oracles of Delhi.

I forgive you. :wink:

No, seriously though, only fools would trust empty British promises. Look at the promises made to the Arabs and the Jews.


The Oracles of Delhi Deniz would have proposed a good out-sourcing solution.



I did have a 'P' somewhere. It got lost. Should have been 'Delphi'. :oops:


Deniz, how many times have I told you to mind your 'P's and 'Q's?



I am but only human, miss :oops:
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun May 10, 2009 6:32 pm

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Postby denizaksulu » Sun May 10, 2009 6:37 pm

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Postby bill cobbett » Sun May 10, 2009 6:49 pm

... :shock: :shock: .... :wink: :D
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Postby Oracle » Sun May 10, 2009 8:07 pm

Oh gawd :roll: ... I haven't inadvertently stumbled into some "GAME"-ing thread ritual, have I?
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