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Postby Byron » Sat May 09, 2009 6:53 pm

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If it is playing its cards well, why has it kept us waiting for 35 years !


Have you get any better strategies you'd like to share?


Not really we are all doing so fine, let's leave the strategies to the politicians.


Do you or don't you?

'Cos if you do, share them so we can all rip them to shreds, and if you don't, stop undermining efforts with your pointless insertions.


You are entitled to your opinion but I do not know whether you agree to accept other people's opinion because in your mind you are always right so please carry on !
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat May 09, 2009 6:55 pm

Byron wrote:As long as Turkey has the complete backing of the US their position on Cyprus will not change. As to EU accession, the Turks are in no real hurry to join and Europe is in no real hurry to welcome them. Result, total stalemate at the expense of Cyprus .


Spot on Byron.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat May 09, 2009 6:58 pm

Byron wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:
If it is playing its cards well, why has it kept us waiting for 35 years !


Have you get any better strategies you'd like to share?


Not really we are all doing so fine, let's leave the strategies to the politicians.


Do you or don't you?

'Cos if you do, share them so we can all rip them to shreds, and if you don't, stop undermining efforts with your pointless insertions.


You are entitled to your opinion but I do not know whether you agree to accept other people's opinion because in your mind you are always right so please carry on !


How do you want me to be - in my mind? Always wrong? Is that how things work in your mind?

So you don't have any other strategies. So stop criticising then.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat May 09, 2009 6:59 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Byron wrote:As long as Turkey has the complete backing of the US their position on Cyprus will not change. As to EU accession, the Turks are in no real hurry to join and Europe is in no real hurry to welcome them. Result, total stalemate at the expense of Cyprus .


Spot on Byron.


Yes, Spot on Byron... you archithkia-less sorts need to stick together!
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Postby Hermes » Sat May 09, 2009 7:00 pm

Byron wrote:Perhaps you may be right. On the other hand it shows that we too are not too gravely concerned about solving the Cyprus problem.


I think that would be a mistake. Turkey has more to gain from withdrawing from Cyprus than by maintaining the occupation of an EU member. You never know though. Never underestimate Turkey's capacity to shoot itself in the foot.
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Postby Byron » Sat May 09, 2009 7:04 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Byron wrote:As long as Turkey has the complete backing of the US their position on Cyprus will not change. As to EU accession, the Turks are in no real hurry to join and Europe is in no real hurry to welcome them. Result, total stalemate at the expense of Cyprus .


Spot on Byron.


Unfortunately, other forum members fail to see the point. GC's and TC's can talk forever but nothing ever changes apart from spiritual concessions like the cross points etc.... nothing concrete has been achieved from a political point of view apart from the recent judgement which has still to be legally enforced. This is because Cyprus is a very small island of no major interest to the EU or to the US . It is just a pawn in a big end game.
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Postby Byron » Sat May 09, 2009 7:07 pm

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Byron wrote:As long as Turkey has the complete backing of the US their position on Cyprus will not change. As to EU accession, the Turks are in no real hurry to join and Europe is in no real hurry to welcome them. Result, total stalemate at the expense of Cyprus .


Spot on Byron.


Yes, Spot on Byron... you archithkia-less sorts need to stick together!


Typical reply from you !
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Postby Byron » Sat May 09, 2009 7:08 pm

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Byron wrote:Perhaps you may be right. On the other hand it shows that we too are not too gravely concerned about solving the Cyprus problem.


I think that would be a mistake. Turkey has more to gain from withdrawing from Cyprus than by maintaining the occupation of an EU member. You never know though. Never underestimate Turkey's capacity to shoot itself in the foot.


For 35 years nobody has managed to obtain any concessions from them. I am glad you are so hopeful, I am not too sure that things will improve.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat May 09, 2009 7:11 pm

Byron wrote:
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Byron wrote:As long as Turkey has the complete backing of the US their position on Cyprus will not change. As to EU accession, the Turks are in no real hurry to join and Europe is in no real hurry to welcome them. Result, total stalemate at the expense of Cyprus .


Spot on Byron.


Unfortunately, other forum members fail to see the point. GC's and TC's can talk forever but nothing ever changes apart from spiritual concessions like the cross points etc.... nothing concrete has been achieved from a political point of view apart from the recent judgement which has still to be legally enforced. This is because Cyprus is a very small island of no major interest to the EU or to the US . It is just a pawn in a big end game.


That's why you need Cypriots with big archithkia to get us noticed. Come on, Lord Byron. Get with the broghramman! We're fighting for freedom here.
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Postby Byron » Sat May 09, 2009 7:12 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Byron wrote:
If it is playing its cards well, why has it kept us waiting for 35 years !


Have you get any better strategies you'd like to share?


Not really we are all doing so fine, let's leave the strategies to the politicians.


Do you or don't you?

'Cos if you do, share them so we can all rip them to shreds, and if you don't, stop undermining efforts with your pointless insertions.


You are entitled to your opinion but I do not know whether you agree to accept other people's opinion because in your mind you are always right so please carry on !


How do you want me to be - in my mind? Always wrong? Is that how things work in your mind?

So you don't have any other strategies. So stop criticising then.


As I said earlier, I do not have strategies, these are left to the politicians.
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