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[Viewpoint]

the breakdown is whaen the turks arrived thinking they could kill everyone and take control of cyprus

You appear to be stuck on that point which is now 438 years old. you must get over it we as just as indigenous as you are.

doesent make a difference thats how it happened, just because many years have passed does not make the killing of over 20 thousand ok..

turks seems to have trouble letting go of a war they started in the first place...

i agree with you both sides should just get over what problems they have and stop holding cyprus hostage and let go of the past..

ive met many turks and tcs ive got on very well with, people are living in the past thinking the only solution is two states. or the only solution is turks go home.

both can live happily on the island without splitting it in two or sending the other side to mumma country.

You have to acknowlege that living seperately has worked better than living together, please dont misunderstand I believe all refugees should have a right to their properties but neither side should be forced to live under the administration of the other, thats why BBF with a political equality of the 2 sides is necessary.

i agree both sides should have equal rights and i am sure there is a way withotu splitting such a tiny island in two

The USA is split into many parts but it still functions and everyone can freely live where they wish but every state rules themselves no is forced to live in any of the states, thats what we want the right to govern ourselves in our own state with the right for GCs to come live with us if they wish.

[polis]

A constitutional court ruled in 1963 that Makarios had failed to uphold article 173 of the constitution which called for the establishment of separate municipalities for Turkish Cypriots. The begining of the end.

So you brought things to an end because you were not allowed to pick your own garbage.

The principle is important here so trying to diminish it is showing your own ignorance, if the man in black was not going to uphold the constitution then how was he to be trust by the TCs, who after these chain of events had the Akritas plan forced in their way.

The principle had to do with who would pick up the garbage from Turkish homes.

Rubbish. :lol:

Exactly, it was all about rubbish.

Utter rubbish. If you do not know how Municipalities function, then its best you go back to school and do some reading. Dont waste your time here. You probably were not even born then. :roll:

Actually, I probably know more about how Cyprus municipalities function than you do. Municipalities in the 60's had practically no function other than picking up the garbage which was probably also their sole source of income.

[paliometoxo]

u mention usa but usa is a huge country not a tiny island smaller then london.. which state in the usa has a population smaller then cyprus has? none of them they are all much bigger and bigger populated,, usa is not a good example

[Get Real!]

A constitutional court ruled in 1963 that Makarios had failed to uphold article 173 of the constitution which called for the establishment of separate municipalities for Turkish Cypriots. The begining of the end.

The “constitutional court” that was part of the 1959 package, designed to step all over the human rights of the overwhelming 82% GC community, while elevating the piss-pot 18% TC community to “demi-God” status to appease Turkey!

Upon Makarios’ attempt to replace this injustice with democracy via his 13-point proposal, no chocolate cookies for guessing who spat the dummy…

[Kikapu]

the breakdown is whaen the turks arrived thinking they could kill everyone and take control of cyprus

You appear to be stuck on that point which is now 438 years old. you must get over it we as just as indigenous as you are.

doesent make a difference thats how it happened, just because many years have passed does not make the killing of over 20 thousand ok..

turks seems to have trouble letting go of a war they started in the first place...

i agree with you both sides should just get over what problems they have and stop holding cyprus hostage and let go of the past..

ive met many turks and tcs ive got on very well with, people are living in the past thinking the only solution is two states. or the only solution is turks go home.

both can live happily on the island without splitting it in two or sending the other side to mumma country.

You have to acknowlege that living seperately has worked better than living together, please dont misunderstand I believe all refugees should have a right to their properties but neither side should be forced to live under the administration of the other, thats why BBF with a political equality of the 2 sides is necessary.

i agree both sides should have equal rights and i am sure there is a way withotu splitting such a tiny island in two

The USA is split into many parts but it still functions and everyone can freely live where they wish but every state rules themselves no is forced to live in any of the states, thats what we want the right to govern ourselves in our own state with the right for GCs to come live with us if they wish.

Be careful VP, because now you are talking about True Federation with strong central government. I guess my BBF wasn't that bad after all since you are now asking for a solution as based on the States. Of course, every citizen can also vote and all seats are open for everyone to run. I assume you will treat the GC's the same way in your state, since after all, they may be living in your state, but they are still living in Cyprus and as Cypriots and they will be protected by the Federal Constitution, and that your state constitution cannot over ride the Federal Constitution. When everyone’s Democratic and Human Rights are respected, then there is no problem you using the USA model for Cyprus.

[askimwos]

VP, you are a very confused sad man...
Give us the USA constitution and you have a deal right away mr partition..

[DT.]

Do not trust the horse, Trojans. Whatever it is, I fear the Greeks even when they bring gifts

Sounds like something George Bush would try to say it, but couldn't either.!

My avatar was going to be the Trojan horse but I couldnt find a way to add it to my profile so I found a Greek Cypriot shooting an arrow in the back of a Turkish Cypriot he had just shared a meal with.....the point being never trust a Greek Cypriot with or without presents.

You have some serious issues mate...

[denizaksulu]

A constitutional court ruled in 1963 that Makarios had failed to uphold article 173 of the constitution which called for the establishment of separate municipalities for Turkish Cypriots. The begining of the end.

So you brought things to an end because you were not allowed to pick your own garbage.

The principle is important here so trying to diminish it is showing your own ignorance, if the man in black was not going to uphold the constitution then how was he to be trust by the TCs, who after these chain of events had the Akritas plan forced in their way.

The principle had to do with who would pick up the garbage from Turkish homes.

Rubbish.

Exactly, it was all about rubbish.

Utter rubbish. If you do not know how Municipalities function, then its best you go back to school and do some reading. Dont waste your time here. You probably were not even born then.

Actually, I probably know more about how Cyprus municipalities function than you do. Municipalities in the 60's had practically no function other than picking up the garbage which was probably also their sole source of income.

So you are still insistent on the rubbish picking. So be it. Garbage man No wonder we are in this mess.

[polis]

So you are still insistent on the rubbish picking. So be it. Garbage man No wonder we are in this mess.

I'm sure there was a clever point you were trying to make here. Pity you missed it.

[denizaksulu]

So you are still insistent on the rubbish picking. So be it. Garbage man No wonder we are in this mess.

I'm sure there was a clever point you were trying to make here. Pity you missed it.

You claim you know more than me. I cannot dispute that other than, feeling sorry that you believe that the only function of a 'Municipality' is collection of rubbish'. If that is the case in the RoC, then fair enough. Even in the north, they are far more advanced and deal with other issues too. I never try to be clever. That is not my purpose here.

Regards