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DP

[The Cypriot]

The wounds are still too raw, and I find it difficult to even consider an Army that raped, pillaged, slaughtered men, women, children, cut off peoples limbs, ethnically cleansed 180,000 people, executed POWs by shooting them in the head in contravention to the Geneva Convention on POWs, as a disciplined Army.

No the British army and navy just stood by and watched as the above carnage was going on; even though they had the moral responsibility, the legal duty and the military capability to intervene. Let's build a memorial to that, shall we?

See below for a fitting tribute for our brave, British lions.... You're from Oz, so you might appreciate it too:

[YFred]

There goes another figure, 200000, 180000, 167000. Which one is correct?

[polis]

Should we setup a memorial for the fallen mehmetchik that died in Cyprus as well?

Wake up, there is one - left side of Girne.

Is it a memorial for the drugged-up rapists that fell too? Or do they have their own special monument?

Why not, that one is for how not to soldier.

I don't mean to bring up a sore subject but can we have some figures as to how many people were raped? so we can establish of the 40000 soldiers how many were rapists, not that there is a single nation whose army does not practice this act.

You can't keep throwing that one at the whole army.

This idea that Mehmetcik is not brave but drugged up is a myth and you know it.

You want to disprove this fact go ahead..

I'll ask my mother in law how many abortions she carried out after the invasion.

The matter is discussed here: http://www.cyprus-conflict.org/material ... age12.html. It's the section of the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in the 1st and 2nd Cyprus vs Turkey cases that deals with rape and ill-treatment.

[insan]

Should we setup a memorial for the fallen mehmetchik that died in Cyprus as well?

Wake up, there is one - left side of Girne.

Is it a memorial for the drugged-up rapists that fell too? Or do they have their own special monument?

Why not, that one is for how not to soldier.

I don't mean to bring up a sore subject but can we have some figures as to how many people were raped? so we can establish of the 40000 soldiers how many were rapists, not that there is a single nation whose army does not practice this act.

You can't keep throwing that one at the whole army.

This idea that Mehmetcik is not brave but drugged up is a myth and you know it.

You want to disprove this fact go ahead..

I'll ask my mother in law how many abortions she carried out after the invasion.

The matter is discussed here: http://www.cyprus-conflict.org/material ... age12.html. It's the section of the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in the 1st and 2nd Cyprus vs Turkey cases that deals with rape and ill-treatment.

Abortions bcz of the life difficulties of becoming a refugee? It was really a good opportunity for GC leadership base it's dirty propaganda on a incident like this. How else could they erase their heavy guilt anyway? By using every possibility to distract attentions away from themselves but towards Turkish army and TMT.

[insan]

Should we setup a memorial for the fallen mehmetchik that died in Cyprus as well?

Wake up, there is one - left side of Girne.

Is it a memorial for the drugged-up rapists that fell too? Or do they have their own special monument?

Why not, that one is for how not to soldier.

I don't mean to bring up a sore subject but can we have some figures as to how many people were raped? so we can establish of the 40000 soldiers how many were rapists, not that there is a single nation whose army does not practice this act.

You can't keep throwing that one at the whole army.

This idea that Mehmetcik is not brave but drugged up is a myth and you know it.

You want to disprove this fact go ahead..

I'll ask my mother in law how many abortions she carried out after the invasion.

The matter is discussed here: http://www.cyprus-conflict.org/material ... age12.html. It's the section of the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in the 1st and 2nd Cyprus vs Turkey cases that deals with rape and ill-treatment.

Abortions bcz of the life difficulties of becoming a refugee? It was really a good opportunity for GC leadership base it's dirty propaganda on a incident like this. How else could they erase their heavy guilt anyway? By using every possibility to distract attentions away from themselves but towards Turkish army and TMT.

Fuck off insan ... you are seriously out of order! Sick bastard!

Truths hurt, u berserker, dirty propagandist.

[Oracle]

Truths hurt, u berserker, dirty propagandist.

A lot of things hurt insan ... because truth does not come out of Turkish mouths!

You seriously need to think about apologising to those Cypriot women you have dishonoured you sadistic Turkish boar, or you may find yourself without any GCs to talk to on this forum!

[polis]

The matter is discussed here: http://www.cyprus-conflict.org/material ... age12.html. It's the section of the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in the 1st and 2nd Cyprus vs Turkey cases that deals with rape and ill-treatment.

Abortions bcz of the life difficulties of becoming a refugee? It was really a good opportunity for GC leadership base it's dirty propaganda on a incident like this. How else could they erase their heavy guilt anyway? By using every possibility to distract attentions away from themselves but towards Turkish army and TMT.

What are you smoking, man? If you think you are referring to a particular section of the judgment then post the section here and I'm sure someone will be found to explain it to you.

[polis]

This is what the European Commission of Human Rights said about the incidents of rape during the Turkish Invasion (http://www.cyprus-conflict.org/material ... age12.html):

"A. Allegations of rape

I. Submissions of the Parties

(1) Applicant Government

358. The applicant Government complained of "wholesale and repeated rapes of women of all ages from 12 to 71, sometimes to such an extent that the victims suffered haemorrhages or became mental wrecks. In some areas, enforced prostitution was practised, all women and girls of a village being collected and put into separate rooms in empty houses, where they were raped repeatedly by the Turkish troops." In certain cases "members of the same family were repeatedly raped, some of them in front of their own children. In other cases women were brutally raped in public. Rapes were on many occasions accompanied by brutalities such as violent biting of the victims to the extent of severe wounding, hitting their heads on the floor and wringing their throats almost to the point of suffocation." In some cases "attempts to rape were followed by the stabbing or killing of the victim. Victims of rape included pregnant and mentally retarded women." [518]

(2) Respondent Government

359. The respondent Government, who for the reasons stated above [519] did not participate in the proceedings on the merits, have not made any statement with regard to the above allegations.

II. Relevant Article of the Convention

360. The facts alleged raise issues under Art. 3 of the Convention, which provides:

"No one shall be subjected to torture or to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."

III. Evidence obtained

361. The evidence concerning allegations of rape is voluminous.

Direct evidence was obtained through the testimoney of Drs. Charalambides and Hadjikakou, who testified that they examined victims of such rapes.

362. Dr. Charalambides stated before the Delegation:

"As a doctor they brought me a few cases that they were raped but they did not want people to know about it because they were young girls and when the raped girls asked if they could use my services as a gynaecologist - because I am a gynaecologist too, for the Kyrenia area - the Turkish administration refused. So all these cases were brought through the Red Cross to Nicosia."

He confirmed that in those cases which he examined he was medically satisfied that rape had taken place [520].

363. Witness Dr. Hadjikakou also stated that he had to treat victims of rape and that in about 70 cases his examinations allowed the medical finding that rape had in face taken place.

364. Dr. Hadjikakou, in his handwritten notes submitted as part of his evidence, mentioned the following incidents of rape which had been brought to his attention [521]:

- A mentally-retarded girl aged 24 was raped in her house by 20 soldiers one after the other. When she started screaming they threw her from the second floor window. She sustained fracture dislocation of the spine and became paralysed. Dr. Hadjikakou treated her for spinal injury.

- One day after their arrival at Voni Turks took girls to a nearby house and raped them.

- One girl of Palekythrou who was held with others in a house was taken out at gunpoint and raped.

- At Tanvu Turkish soldiers tried to rape a 17 year old schoolgirl. She resisted and was shot dead.

- A woman of Gypsou mentioned to him that 25 girls were kept by Turks at Marathovouno as prostitutes.

- Another woman saw several girls being raped.

- A women of Voni was raped on three occasions by four persons each time. She became pregnant.

365. he Delegation also heard evidence from eye-witnesses. Mrs. Kyprianou gave evidence that after the killing described above [522] the Turkish soldiers took a young girl and raped her [523]. This statement was corroborated by Mrs. Efthymiou [524].

One of the persons interviewed in refugee camps (Witness E) stated that he had seen the rape of three women by Turkish soldiers at Ayios Georgios. He further reported that at Marathovouno many girls were raped; he and his family had heard their cries [525].

366. A further witness stated that his wife had been raped in front of his children [526].

367. Reference has also been made before the Delegation to several cases of abortion, at the British base, of women who had been victims of rapes by Turkish soldiers [527].

368. Hearsay witnesses of rapes were Mrs. Soulioti, Mr. Hadjiloizou[528] Mr. Odysseos [529], and Mr. Stylianou [530].

Mr. Stylianou spoke of a case of 25 girls who, having been raped, complained to Turkish officers and were then raped by these officers. The witness offered the name of one of the victims in this case and said that the victim was prepared to testify before the Delegation. In addition he mentioned the case of a 50 year old woman who was raped by 10 soldiers in her fields and had to be hospitalised in Kyrenia [531].

Mrs. Soulioti stated that:

- in August 1974, while the telephone system was still working, the Red Cross Society received telephone calls from Palekythrou and Kaponti (west of Kyrenia) reporting rapes [532];

- a man (whose name was stated) reported his wife had been stabbed in the neck whilst resisting rape and his granddaughter aged six had been stabbed and killed by Turkish soldiers attempting the rape [533];

- a girl of 15½ years who had been raped, was delivered to the Red Cross [534];

- the witness had to take care of 38 women released from the Voni and Gypsou camps, all of whom had been raped, some of them in front of their husbands and their children; others had been raped repeatedly, or put in houses frequented by Turkish soldiers. The women were taken to Akrotiri hospital in the sovereign base where they were treated. Three of them were found to be pregnant [535].

369. The Delegation also saw a filmed interview of five girls who stated that they were victims of rape.

370. Finally, written statements of 41 alleged victims of rape [536], of four alleged eye-witnesses of rape [537], and of 24 hearsay witnesses of rape [538] have been submitted. These statements were taken by witness Hadjiloizou [539] , or other police officers under his instructions, and the names and addresses of the authors of the statements can be obtained from the applicant Government. These statements include reports of repeated rapes by one or several Turkish soldiers [540], rapes in front of close relatives [541], rapes committed by Turkish army officers [542] enforced prostitution [543], and the rape of a five months pregnant woman [544],

IV. Evaluation of the evidence obtained

371. The Delegation noted that the two medical witnesses, Drs. Hadjikakou and Charalambides, endeavoured to be precise and to avoid any exaggeration. Their statements were corroborated by the other witnesses, in particular Mr. Kyprianou, Mr. Efthymiou and Witness E, and by the great number of written statements submitted. The Commission is therefore satisfied that the oral evidence obtained on this item is correct.

372. The written statements submitted have, for the reasons already stated [545], not been further investigated. However, together with the above evidence, they constitute further strong indications cf rapes committed on a large scale.

V. Responsibility of Turkey under the Convention

373. The evidence shows that rapes were committed by Turkish soldiers and at least in two cases even by Turkish officers, and this not only in some isolated cases of indiscipline. It has not been shown that the Turkish authorities took adequate measures to prevent this happening or that they generally took any disciplinary measures following such incidents. The Commission therefore considers that the non-prevention of the said acts is imputable to Turkey under the Convention.

VI. Conclusion

374. The Commission, by 12 votes against one, finds that the incidents of rape described in the above cases and regarded as established constitute "inhuman treatment" in the sense of Art. 3 of the Convention, which is imputable to Turkey."

[insan]

Should we setup a memorial for the fallen mehmetchik that died in Cyprus as well?

Wake up, there is one - left side of Girne.

Is it a memorial for the drugged-up rapists that fell too? Or do they have their own special monument?

Why not, that one is for how not to soldier.

I don't mean to bring up a sore subject but can we have some figures as to how many people were raped? so we can establish of the 40000 soldiers how many were rapists, not that there is a single nation whose army does not practice this act.

You can't keep throwing that one at the whole army.

This idea that Mehmetcik is not brave but drugged up is a myth and you know it.

You want to disprove this fact go ahead..

I'll ask my mother in law how many abortions she carried out after the invasion.

The matter is discussed here: http://www.cyprus-conflict.org/material ... age12.html. It's the section of the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in the 1st and 2nd Cyprus vs Turkey cases that deals with rape and ill-treatment.

Abortions bcz of the life difficulties of becoming a refugee? It was really a good opportunity for GC leadership base it's dirty propaganda on a incident like this. How else could they erase their heavy guilt anyway? By using every possibility to distract attentions away from themselves but towards Turkish army and TMT.

Fuck off insan ... you are seriously out of order! Sick bastard!

Truths hurt, u berserker, dirty propagandist.

A lot of things hurt insan ... because truth does not come out of Turkish mouths!

You seriously need to think about apologising to those Cypriot women you have dishonoured you sadistic Turkish boar, or you may find yourself without any GCs to talk to on this forum!

U r not of an eye witness of any rapes neither u r an eye witness of any abortions and why they were carried out.

If u had a rational mind set u can easily and factually conclude abt it that it was just another dirty propaganda shit of Akritas Team.

Besides, a dirty propagandist like u have no right to speak on behalf of all GCs. Go home u menatally ill Greek retard!