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[Kikapu]

its because the wrong people are at the table. i think with the right people we would have a solution a lot quicker, i think more tcs and gcs are happy to live in a united island rather then split in two rather then rather see no solution... so many of tcs travel to south all the time and get on just fine as gcs who go into the north...

i think the turk main aim is to split the land in two like it always was...

tcs are a minority .. its not such a problem for turks to be a minority in germany or england or america.. or is it because they dont have the power to split them countries in two thats why they stay happy as a minority in them countries?... a minority but not a silent one like going to england and complaining that ur a minority..

tcs and gcs equal rights living under one island.. cyprus is so small why split it in two?

We both see ourselves as indigenous to Cyprus and TCs will never accept becoming just another minority living under the administration of GCs. That's why a BBF is necessary nothing will be as it was, BF with political equality of the 2 founding states. How do yo know the majority of TCs want to live in a unified state under GCs?

There cannot be 2 founding states (virgin birth), because the TC's and the GC's do not have their own states now to bring it to the BBF union. All of Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots, that's why, BBF with 2 Federal states will also belong to all Cypriots equally.!

[YFred]

VP , the "trnc" is facing its biggest ever upheaval , one from which it can never escape from. Foreign investment is now DEAD . Casinos built on G/C land are on the hit list . Their European assets at risk , foreign developers are a thing of the past.
Sell my apartment to a foreigner and I will take legal action , I think all owners of property in the occupied areas will consider legal action , and why not.
The Brits are now destitute , cant sell and cant escape the long arm of the law.
How many Brits do you now see investing in the occupied part ? I say none what say you VP ?

Milt, I am surprised at you. What happens in this situations is that it will simply go underground. Russian, Israeli, Turkish and dare I say Greek Mafia will probably snap up the bargains. Which market has any government ever been able to stop by legal means. Heroin? cocaine?

Fred , you are surprised at me !!!!! Fred what on earth are you on mate ? What will go underground ? You cant move the immovable , land will always be land and you cant trade land ...underground .
I have only a measly flat in Famagusta , third floor , two bedroom flat , who can possibly trade my flat in the same manner as cocaine !!
Come on Fred , you must know that this is the end of the road for the "trnc" economy . Finished , totally reliant on the goodwill of Turkey , no more foreign investors no more casinos and no more brothels either !
We are approaching the reunification point and soon I might add.
All Cypriots must now know that the rule of the jungle has come to an end.

It's not the flat Milt, its a piece of paper, of course it can be bought in the black market if the price is right, try taking them to court? Wake up.

But I do feel for Kiks, he seemed shocked that there will be closing down the White House just off the Famagusta Highway on route 666.

[Viewpoint]

its because the wrong people are at the table. i think with the right people we would have a solution a lot quicker, i think more tcs and gcs are happy to live in a united island rather then split in two rather then rather see no solution... so many of tcs travel to south all the time and get on just fine as gcs who go into the north...

i think the turk main aim is to split the land in two like it always was...

tcs are a minority .. its not such a problem for turks to be a minority in germany or england or america.. or is it because they dont have the power to split them countries in two thats why they stay happy as a minority in them countries?... a minority but not a silent one like going to england and complaining that ur a minority..

tcs and gcs equal rights living under one island.. cyprus is so small why split it in two?

We both see ourselves as indigenous to Cyprus and TCs will never accept becoming just another minority living under the administration of GCs. That's why a BBF is necessary nothing will be as it was, BF with political equality of the 2 founding states. How do yo know the majority of TCs want to live in a unified state under GCs?

There cannot be 2 founding states (virgin birth), because the TC's and the GC's do not have their own states now to bring it to the BBF union. All of Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots, that's why, BBF with 2 Federal states will also belong to all Cypriots equally.!

Says who?

[Kikapu]

VP , the "trnc" is facing its biggest ever upheaval , one from which it can never escape from. Foreign investment is now DEAD . Casinos built on G/C land are on the hit list . Their European assets at risk , foreign developers are a thing of the past.
Sell my apartment to a foreigner and I will take legal action , I think all owners of property in the occupied areas will consider legal action , and why not.
The Brits are now destitute , cant sell and cant escape the long arm of the law.
How many Brits do you now see investing in the occupied part ? I say none what say you VP ?

Milt, I am surprised at you. What happens in this situations is that it will simply go underground. Russian, Israeli, Turkish and dare I say Greek Mafia will probably snap up the bargains. Which market has any government ever been able to stop by legal means. Heroin? cocaine?

Fred , you are surprised at me !!!!! Fred what on earth are you on mate ? What will go underground ? You cant move the immovable , land will always be land and you cant trade land ...underground .
I have only a measly flat in Famagusta , third floor , two bedroom flat , who can possibly trade my flat in the same manner as cocaine !!
Come on Fred , you must know that this is the end of the road for the "trnc" economy . Finished , totally reliant on the goodwill of Turkey , no more foreign investors no more casinos and no more brothels either !
We are approaching the reunification point and soon I might add.
All Cypriots must now know that the rule of the jungle has come to an end.

It's not the flat Milt, its a piece of paper, of course it can be bought in the black market if the price is right, try taking them to court? Wake up.

But I do feel for Kiks, he seemed shocked that there will be closing down the White House just off the Famagusta Highway on route 666.

Say what.??????

[paliometoxo]

its because the wrong people are at the table. i think with the right people we would have a solution a lot quicker, i think more tcs and gcs are happy to live in a united island rather then split in two rather then rather see no solution... so many of tcs travel to south all the time and get on just fine as gcs who go into the north...

i think the turk main aim is to split the land in two like it always was...

tcs are a minority .. its not such a problem for turks to be a minority in germany or england or america.. or is it because they dont have the power to split them countries in two thats why they stay happy as a minority in them countries?... a minority but not a silent one like going to england and complaining that ur a minority..

tcs and gcs equal rights living under one island.. cyprus is so small why split it in two?

We both see ourselves as indigenous to Cyprus and TCs will never accept becoming just another minority living under the administration of GCs. That's why a BBF is necessary nothing will be as it was, BF with political equality of the 2 founding states. How do yo know the majority of TCs want to live in a unified state under GCs?

if tcs go to another country and dont like to be a minority why go there?

i dont know the majority would rather live under a united island... but if you rather a devided island you may aswell be in turkey if you cant live with the people of an island.. why be there in the first place..

cyprus is so small smaller then london smaller then many cities in england or parts of the us in no way is it a good idea to split what little island there is into two. i think those who cant live with the other side should just go to a country they feel safe and that they can live with the people on the island

[Kikapu]

its because the wrong people are at the table. i think with the right people we would have a solution a lot quicker, i think more tcs and gcs are happy to live in a united island rather then split in two rather then rather see no solution... so many of tcs travel to south all the time and get on just fine as gcs who go into the north...

i think the turk main aim is to split the land in two like it always was...

tcs are a minority .. its not such a problem for turks to be a minority in germany or england or america.. or is it because they dont have the power to split them countries in two thats why they stay happy as a minority in them countries?... a minority but not a silent one like going to england and complaining that ur a minority..

tcs and gcs equal rights living under one island.. cyprus is so small why split it in two?

We both see ourselves as indigenous to Cyprus and TCs will never accept becoming just another minority living under the administration of GCs. That's why a BBF is necessary nothing will be as it was, BF with political equality of the 2 founding states. How do yo know the majority of TCs want to live in a unified state under GCs?

There cannot be 2 founding states (virgin birth), because the TC's and the GC's do not have their own states now to bring it to the BBF union. All of Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots, that's why, BBF with 2 Federal states will also belong to all Cypriots equally.!

Who says?

Then show me where these 2 different states are that is solely owned by the TC's and the GC's to become 2 founding states (virgin birth).??

[Sotos]

its because the wrong people are at the table. i think with the right people we would have a solution a lot quicker, i think more tcs and gcs are happy to live in a united island rather then split in two rather then rather see no solution... so many of tcs travel to south all the time and get on just fine as gcs who go into the north...

i think the turk main aim is to split the land in two like it always was...

tcs are a minority .. its not such a problem for turks to be a minority in germany or england or america.. or is it because they dont have the power to split them countries in two thats why they stay happy as a minority in them countries?... a minority but not a silent one like going to england and complaining that ur a minority..

tcs and gcs equal rights living under one island.. cyprus is so small why split it in two?

We both see ourselves as indigenous to Cyprus and TCs will never accept becoming just another minority living under the administration of GCs. That's why a BBF is necessary nothing will be as it was, BF with political equality of the 2 founding states. How do yo know the majority of TCs want to live in a unified state under GCs?

There cannot be 2 founding states (virgin birth), because the TC's and the GC's do not have their own states now to bring it to the BBF union. All of Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots, that's why, BBF with 2 Federal states will also belong to all Cypriots equally.!

Says who?

Says everybody. Like the ECJ some days ago which confirmed that there is no such thing as "trnc" and Republic of Cyprus is the only state in Cyprus and the laws of RoC apply everywhere on the island. So what "2 founding states"? In Cyprus there is just one state.

[Viewpoint]

its because the wrong people are at the table. i think with the right people we would have a solution a lot quicker, i think more tcs and gcs are happy to live in a united island rather then split in two rather then rather see no solution... so many of tcs travel to south all the time and get on just fine as gcs who go into the north...

i think the turk main aim is to split the land in two like it always was...

tcs are a minority .. its not such a problem for turks to be a minority in germany or england or america.. or is it because they dont have the power to split them countries in two thats why they stay happy as a minority in them countries?... a minority but not a silent one like going to england and complaining that ur a minority..

tcs and gcs equal rights living under one island.. cyprus is so small why split it in two?

We both see ourselves as indigenous to Cyprus and TCs will never accept becoming just another minority living under the administration of GCs. That's why a BBF is necessary nothing will be as it was, BF with political equality of the 2 founding states. How do yo know the majority of TCs want to live in a unified state under GCs?

if tcs go to another country and dont like to be a minority why go there?

i dont know the majority would rather live under a united island... but if you rather a devided island you may aswell be in turkey if you cant live with the people of an island.. why be there in the first place..

cyprus is so small smaller then london smaller then many cities in england or parts of the us in no way is it a good idea to split what little island there is into two. i think those who cant live with the other side should just go to a country they feel safe and that they can live with the people on the island

I have just as much right to this island as you do why should I go anywhere, there is enough room for everyone and for 2 states to live side by side one administered by TCs and the other by GCs allowing everyone to settle in which ever state they wish. Just as you do not want to live under TC administration I to do not want to be forced to live in a GC state why is this so difficult to understand?

[Viewpoint]

its because the wrong people are at the table. i think with the right people we would have a solution a lot quicker, i think more tcs and gcs are happy to live in a united island rather then split in two rather then rather see no solution... so many of tcs travel to south all the time and get on just fine as gcs who go into the north...

i think the turk main aim is to split the land in two like it always was...

tcs are a minority .. its not such a problem for turks to be a minority in germany or england or america.. or is it because they dont have the power to split them countries in two thats why they stay happy as a minority in them countries?... a minority but not a silent one like going to england and complaining that ur a minority..

tcs and gcs equal rights living under one island.. cyprus is so small why split it in two?

We both see ourselves as indigenous to Cyprus and TCs will never accept becoming just another minority living under the administration of GCs. That's why a BBF is necessary nothing will be as it was, BF with political equality of the 2 founding states. How do yo know the majority of TCs want to live in a unified state under GCs?

There cannot be 2 founding states (virgin birth), because the TC's and the GC's do not have their own states now to bring it to the BBF union. All of Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots, that's why, BBF with 2 Federal states will also belong to all Cypriots equally.!

Who says?

Then show me where these 2 different states are that is solely owned by the TC's and the GC's to become 2 founding states (virgin birth).??

That's the whole idea a new start hence the term virgin birth, 2 new states one GC the other TC forming a BBF with political equality of the 2 new states. get it now?

[Viewpoint]

its because the wrong people are at the table. i think with the right people we would have a solution a lot quicker, i think more tcs and gcs are happy to live in a united island rather then split in two rather then rather see no solution... so many of tcs travel to south all the time and get on just fine as gcs who go into the north...

i think the turk main aim is to split the land in two like it always was...

tcs are a minority .. its not such a problem for turks to be a minority in germany or england or america.. or is it because they dont have the power to split them countries in two thats why they stay happy as a minority in them countries?... a minority but not a silent one like going to england and complaining that ur a minority..

tcs and gcs equal rights living under one island.. cyprus is so small why split it in two?

We both see ourselves as indigenous to Cyprus and TCs will never accept becoming just another minority living under the administration of GCs. That's why a BBF is necessary nothing will be as it was, BF with political equality of the 2 founding states. How do yo know the majority of TCs want to live in a unified state under GCs?

There cannot be 2 founding states (virgin birth), because the TC's and the GC's do not have their own states now to bring it to the BBF union. All of Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots, that's why, BBF with 2 Federal states will also belong to all Cypriots equally.!

Says who?

Says everybody. Like the ECJ some days ago which confirmed that there is no such thing as "trnc" and Republic of Cyprus is the only state in Cyprus and the laws of RoC apply everywhere on the island. So what "2 founding states"? In Cyprus there is just one state.

So that makes everything OK? then why havent you solved the problem?