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TC SIDE DOES NOT HAVE THE LUXURY TO WITHDRAW FROM THE TALKS

Postby halil » Wed May 06, 2009 4:49 pm

TRNC President Mehmet Ali Talat has said that the Turkish Cypriot Side – which will benefit most from the solution of the Cyprus problem - does not have the luxury to withdraw from the talks.

The President was the guest of last night’s AKIS program on BRT-1, during which he assessed the implications of the European Court of Justice’s decision on the Orams Case.

President Talat reminded that he was criticized for not withdrawing from the talks after the announcement of the Court’s decision.

`We cannot withdraw from the talks, because the Greek Cypriot Side may not have the responsibility and the motivation to sit at the table as from the moment that we say `we have withdrawn`.

But, he added that it would be wrong to continue the talks as if nothing has happened.

The President said he gave a call to the Greek Cypriot Leader few days ago and told him that he saw the decision of the Court as a bomb thrown at the table, and that outside factors are becoming more influential as a settlement is delayed.

Reminding that the Greek Cypriot Leader and he decided to intensify their efforts towards a solution at their meeting yesterday, he said `That is what we wanted, we said `let’s continue the way`.
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed May 06, 2009 5:05 pm

yes but what they want is two states thats not a solution
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Postby Hermes » Wed May 06, 2009 5:10 pm

paliometoxo wrote:yes but what they want is two states thats not a solution

The "bomb thrown at the table" has blown up that idea.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed May 06, 2009 5:57 pm

Hermes wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:yes but what they want is two states thats not a solution

The "bomb thrown at the table" has blown up that idea.


Mr Kandounas has another "bomb" or two to throw at the table later this year.

The Great Patriot Kandounas has done much for a fair reunion and Mr T knows it. Mr T may even secretly approve of the ECJ judgement.
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Postby wallace » Wed May 06, 2009 6:48 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Hermes wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:yes but what they want is two states thats not a solution

The "bomb thrown at the table" has blown up that idea.


Mr Kandounas has another "bomb" or two to throw at the table later this year.

The Great Patriot Kandounas has done much for a fair reunion and Mr T knows it. Mr T may even secretly approve of the ECJ judgement.


Mr T will have to approve if he wants to be part of the EU. Throwing to many boms may backfire on us. Let's hope there is a settlement soon and that this 1 bom is enough to get the negotiations going a little faster.
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Postby CBBB » Wed May 06, 2009 7:07 pm

The biggest problem regarding the ECJ ruling on the Orams' case is that even an agreed settlement may possibly not negate this decision, meaning individuals can still chase their property!!!!

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Postby bill cobbett » Wed May 06, 2009 7:32 pm

CBBB wrote:The biggest problem regarding the ECJ ruling on the Orams' case is that even an agreed settlement may possibly not negate this decision, meaning individuals can still chase their property!!!!

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I suggest we think about the primacy of rights law and specifically property law, cos isn't that what the Nicosia court, the GB High Court and now the ECJ have confirmed, to which any settlement must conform.

Pres X has been saying as much for weeks. Mr T seems to have gone some way today in acknowledging it as well. Any northern friend to confirm this?
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Postby halil » Wed May 06, 2009 7:56 pm

IMMOVEABLE PROPERTY COMMISSION GAVE 9,906,600 ₤ COMPENSATION SO FAR

The Immoveable Property Commission has announced that the total number of compensation given to Greek Cypriot applicants in about 3 years reached 9 million, 906 thousand, 600 Pounds (nearly 23 million Turkish Liras).

The Head of Commission Sumer Erkmen told the TAK News Agency that the amounts of compensation are being paid into the name-specific bank accounts of Greek Cypriots.

The Commission, which acts as an independent court, was established in North Cyprus upon the request from the European Court of Human Rights, with the aim of viewing files brought by Greek Cypriots who owned properties in the North before 1974 under the domestic law.
The number of Greek Cypriots applying to the Commission has reached 390.

The Commission has already concluded 59 cases.

52 of those were resolved with compensation, 2 with both compensation and exchange, 4 with return and compensation, and 1 with return after the solution of the Cyprus problem.

Cases resolved with exchange belong to two Greek Cypriots who also brought their cases to the European Court of Human Rights.

According to the Property Law, properties, which are not owned by juristic people having the right of use and do not present any threat to public order and national security, are subject to immediate return.

If return is envisaged for other properties which are in use, then the return is postponed after the Cyprus political settlement.

Equivalent properties are not subject to return.

Greek Cypriots who receive compensation lose their rights on property.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 06, 2009 8:26 pm

GCs can have their properties back even if we agree division dont confuse private property ownership with state ownership.
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