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[MicAtCyp]

Is it possible that GC's need access to Turkish ports so
that their goods can be transported by road rather than
by sea?

I think Road Freight may be cheaper and/ or faster than
sea freight. especially for Europe.

Good day Sir,
How are we today?

No my friend it is not so.I also had this opinion in the past.Inland transportation however costs almost 5 times more per kilometer compared with the seafreight transportation.For example seafreight from Cyprus to Genoa port (2600Km) for a 40 ft seacontainer costs 600 pounds and the inland tranportation by road from Genoa port to Munich (450Km) costs another 500!

They use road transport ONLY when the goods have to travel fast (within 4-7 days whereas with the ship it may take from 15-30 days).Also when the truck will not return empty (usually they return empty anyway).

In any case the shortest route for road exports to Europe from Cyprus is through Piraeus port in Greece.

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Garbitsch,

The real reason why Cyprus wants the ports of Turkey is because we have one of the largest fleet in the world using our "opportunity" flag.We are talking about 1/5th of the worlds ships! The second reason is of course political.
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boulio dont think Turkey is holding its breath
either,not the way things are developing in the EU...

Pure Denktas’in ruyalari

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I dare GC and Greece to veto Turkey's accesion course. I
really hope they do.

There is no veto from now on.All there is is "difficulties". Some of them will stuck the ship until Turkey yields.Simple....

[brother]

Micatcyp

There is no veto from now on.All there is is "difficulties". Some of them will stuck the ship until Turkey yields.Simple....

I agree that this is the way it will be only a mad man would use veto now.


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I've read those quotes before....what makes me laugh is that so many TC still desparatley try to make a point that Turkey invaded Cyprus for a noble cause on their behalf.

As funny as EOKA being an honourable cause in the eyes of many GC

[detailer]

There is no veto from now on.All there is is "difficulties". Some of them will stuck the ship until Turkey yields.Simple....

GC are so funny in saying that they will bring "DIFFUCULTIES" to the Turkey's EU perspective.

Turkish access to EU is a very big issue for EU countries which can not be compared to GC "wishes".

If they want Turkey's entrance, they won't give shit if GC want it or not. If they don't, they will let you to veto it. Simple...

[Murtaza]

Turkey will not prefer EU over TC.

Who gives a s*** about Tcs? You realy believe that the occupation army is here to "protect" the Tcs from the Gcs?

Than question why people of turkey support TC? Are they also strategist.
I dont say we wont gain anything from TC.But strategic reasons are not only reasons for Turkey coming. You should also accept guys,You killed Turks and one reason of our coming is this.

After All we have not much gain(Except money) from EU .Infact Erdogan wish for EU is mostly because He need it for internal-conflicts.

Then why Tr is so desperate and anxious to become an EU member? ...and you think money it's not that important to pure turks?

We are not such poor my friend. And we will not be such poor after 15 year too.

Do you know how much we give cyprus?
or do you know how much we refused for not letting USA army in Turkey?

No as I said you before, Erdogan wish EU because Internal conficts.
EU is not a must.

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I've read those quotes before....what makes me laugh is that so many TC still desparatley try to make a point that Turkey invaded Cyprus for a noble cause on their behalf.


As funny as EOKA being an honourable cause in the eyes of many GC

Do we have to make the distinction between EOKA and EOKA B again?

and who's fault is it that EOKA came into existance? Who was it that was opressing 82% of Cyprus' peoples for hundreds of years??? it wasnt Greece was it.

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[demetriou_74]

dare i say it. MAIN SOURCE I AGREE WITH YOU

[MicAtCyp]

If Turkey gives up TC, will TC accept everything GC wish? Or will they gives up from their right?

If they dont, Than everything will be worse. Because If TC have nothing to trust, They will less probably accept union.(Because this time there would be noone to protect them.)

So you should realy think,Turkey retreat would be better or worse.

Murtaza, the GCs are not angels. If Turkey takes her military forces out there must be a simultaneous dis-armament of the GCs too. Or an EU force must undertake the protection of the areas where the TCs live until a solution is found.
The problem of Turkey being here with her army is because it excercises control over the TCs through controlling the police and the whole system. Another problem is it scares the GCs because we are afraid they will attack us.RoC would be very glad to disolve it's army and instead of paying 1 million pounds per day for her Army to pay the EU force.

[brother]

Do we have to make the distinction between EOKA and EOKA B again?

and who's fault is it that EOKA came into existance? Who was it that was opressing 82% of Cyprus' peoples for hundreds of years??? it wasnt Greece was it.

There is very little difference but if it please's you they can be different but for the hundreds of years you talk about is in past history and was never in my control hence whatever, as for EOKA are in our present day history which makes it relevant, also the ottoman era was in the fucking 1800's wheras the recent crimes in cyprus was in the 20 century, can you see the HUGE, MASSIVE difference the time line makes.

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After the ottomans came the british...until 1960, and even then, the independance of Cyprus was on there terms. EOKA is just like any other nationalism born out of foreign opression. Anyway, who was aiding the British keep control of Cyprus...the TC police. Is it EOKAs fault that the main TC comunity wanted to see it as a TC killing instead of a British police killing.

Effectivly, it was TC helping the British keep the GC under foreign rule still.

You have to look at things in many angles.

besides, Ataturk wanted Cyprus even before there was such thing as EOKA. Turkey always wanted control of Cyprus.

[demetriou_74]

If Turkey takes her military forces out there must be a simultaneous dis-armament of the GCs too

we do not have that many arms. cyprus poses no real military threat to any country.