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[turkcyp]

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[boulio]

then you have a vivid one,unlike with cyprus it will occur.turkey will lose control of the north and the two communities of cyprus will forge ahead.

[Murtaza]

I think you are exaggerating Turkey wish to EU.
Turkey will not prefer EU over TC. After All we have not much gain(Except money) from EU .Infact Erdogan wish for EU is mostly because He need it for internal-conflicts.

[Viewpoint]

boulio as we say dream on

[turkcyp]

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[cannedmoose]

who is that your five finger girlfriend

No it is my imagination. When you dream sky is the limit right?....

LOL...

I applaud your choice of fantasy mate TC...

For those of you not familiar with Adriana Lima's loveliness, see below...

[RAFAELLA]

Turkey will not prefer EU over TC.

Who gives a s*** about Tcs? You realy believe that the occupation army is here to "protect" the Tcs from the Gcs?

Read the following, nobody mentions Tcs:
Kemal Ataturk regarded Cyprus as being particularly important for Turkey. Professor Dervis Manizade in an article in the Instanbul daily "Milliyet" (20.7.78) quoted Ataturk as saying, while addressing military commanders:
"Pay attention to Cyprus, this island is important for us."

Ali Nesim reported in "Dogus" (20.9.84):
Ataturk, replying to a question on Cyprus after the annexation of
Alexandretta said: "The turn of Cyprus has not yet come".

In 1954, nine years before intercommunal conflict broke out in 1963, the then Foreign Minister of Turkey F. Koprulu, declared that Cyprus is an "extention of continental Turkey" and that it should revert to Turkey "on the basis of geographical proximity".

At the Tripartite Conference on Cyprus in August-September 1955, the then Turkish Foreign Minister, Zorlu, stated:
"...The importance of Cyprus to Turkey does not arise from a single cause; it is a necessity which emanates from the exingencies of history, geography, economy and military strategy, from the right to existence and security, which is the most sacred of every state, in short, from the very nature of things".

The Turkish journalist and historian A. Gurkan, more recently, in "Kibris Postasi" (20.12.83) put it quite succinctly when he said:
"Speaking from a purely strategic point of view we could say that for Turkey's security, a safe Cyprus is a Cyprus which would be, in its entirety, under Turkish control".

But what makes Turkish expansionism even more evident are the following statements:

(a) By Gunes (former Turkish Foreign Minister) which reads:
"Cyprus is as precious as the right arm of a country which cares for her defence or her expansionistic aims if she harbours any. If we don't keep this strategic importance of Cyprus we cannot understand the peace operation of 20 July or rather it is impossible to understand the entire Cyprus crisis... Many states, to a certain extent because it suits their interest, want to see the Cyprus problem merely as our desire to protect the Turkish community on the island. Whereas the actual problem is the security of 45 million Turks in the motherland together with the Turks in the island and the maintenance of the balcance of the Middle East".

Hurriyet (20.7.80)
(b) By Ozal, former Prime Minister of Turkey who referring to the UDI of November 1983, said:
"Cyprus is an island which pierces the middle of Turkey like a dagger. It is extremely vital from the viewpoint of our security. This island should not be in enemy hands. The existence of Turks in northern Cyprus is a guarantee in this direction".

Milliyet (November 1983).
(c) By Raouf Denktash himself who stated:
"Naturally Turkey has strategic interests in Cyprus. It is fortunate for Turkey that the Turkish Cypriot community exists here. Even if the Turkish Cypriot community did not exist, Turkey would not have left Cyprus to Greece, Mr. Koruturk told me something which is very important. The honourable President had told me: 'If Cyprus passes to Greece and is militarized then Turkey ceases to be a maritime nation'. This is an extremely important factor".

Even a few weeks ago Ozkok confrimed that the purpose of the turkish troops on the island is for strategic reasons and for... the security of Tr

After All we have not much gain(Except money) from EU .Infact Erdogan wish for EU is mostly because He need it for internal-conflicts.

Then why Tr is so desperate and anxious to become an EU member? ...and you think money it's not that important to pure turks?

[RAFAELLA]

Oops! Sorry I meant to write poor, not pure

[RAFAELLA]

You are right about Turkey signing the protocol, she has constantly agreed to this from day 1 but on the later issue, there is so much red tape that southern Cyprus will have to wait for permission from Turkish government on all issues, this can be 1 year or even 10 who knows????

Tr wants to become a player, if that's the case then she has to follow the rules of the game like all the players. If she doesn't like the rules then tough luck.
Don't forget that Cy is an EU member and Tr will have to face Cy in all of her steps towards her EU eccession process. The recognition of Cy by Tr is one way and maybe Tr will manage to become an EU member in 10-15 years, who knows????

Turkey has been very supportive of the TRNC over the past 31 years, please dont go green

Not very supportive, the only support to the puppet state.
Hmm... don't worry, green is not my favorite colour. I prefer the perfect tan I already have

[Main_Source]

I've read those quotes before....what makes me laugh is that so many TC still desparatley try to make a point that Turkey invaded Cyprus for a noble cause on their behalf.