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[Get Real!]

GR turned Homeini, amazing! Do you know anything about quantum mechanics GR? What about Planct time? Have you considered any of the above before making your assertions?

Feel free to enlighten us on whatever it is you think is relevant to support your argument, which is... ?

[Novus]

One for the unwavering atheists…

If God doesn’t exist, then how do you explain the presence of the universe?

NB: You cannot start your theory with an imaginary “big bang” unless you’re prepared to explain how and why this “bang” was triggered. For example, if this “bang” was a release of mechanical, chemical, or nuclear energy, then you must be able to explain WHERE the necessary elements came from, and WHAT triggered this ignition.

If you cannot explain the presence of the universe, then you’d be well advised to tone down your atheism until you are better informed.


Regards, GR.

If the universe was created by something, then explain why you think it was just one god, or a cognizant being, or a being at all. If you cannot answer those very basic questions, then STFU about atheists.

[Oracle]

If you cannot explain the presence of the universe, then you’d be well advised to tone down your atheism until you are better informed.

So who better informed you, that it was God's doing, just because science hasn't finished? Jumping to conclusions, huh!

You are falling into the same trap GR! ... you fill in the gaps with a ZEUS.

[Hatter]

I agree about it being impossible to know at the logical level, but come on, how is it logical that the universe and everything in it happened by pure chance?

Science hasn't even scratched the surface when it comes to explaining the universe (let alone God)... So far it's like a puzzle that they're trying to put together, using their own imagination to create the pieces a lot of the time, and to top it off they have only just about managed to open the box...
Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe that in the very end it will be science that proves Gods existence. It's through this science we know about the mechanisms of life, the universe and how it's put together so being a beliver in a God I feel there is definitely a link between the two.

I don't believe theres any proof of God to be found in holy books, but the wonders of science match quite well the 'higher, supreme, all knowing being' credentials imo...

I did not say it happened by chance. My view is that we don't know - yet.

Maybe Science has just about scratched the surface, but I agree it has a long way to go yet. Nevertheless, in the past there were religious beliefs that attributed natural phenomena (e.g. the eclipse of the sun) to divine intervention, and those phenomena are now understood in terms of science. Of course, this is not to say that therefore there is no God. It simply says that our lack of understanding of physical phenomena seems irrelevant to proving or disproving metaphysical issues.

I would agree that Science has not proven that there is no 'higher, supreme, all knowing being'. Perhaps there is a point at which cosmology and theology converge but we are a long way off yet.

[Bananiot]

Your understanding of this matter is very shallow GR, I am very sorry to say. Just like your understanding of the Cyprus problem that leads you to making extremists asertions of the type "we should start a war against Turkey and then call it off when our casualties top 20 000".

[Get Real!]

If the universe was created by something, then explain why you think it was just one god, or a cognizant being, or a being at all. If you cannot answer those very basic questions, then STFU about atheists.

Reversing the question is not an answer to the thread’s question.

[Get Real!]

Your understanding of this matter is very shallow GR, I am very sorry to say. Just like your understanding of the Cyprus problem that leads you to making extremists asertions of the type "we should start a war against Turkey and then call it off when our casualties top 20 000".

Just I suspected… you’ve got nothing relevant to say.

Bye...

[Get Real!]

If you cannot explain the presence of the universe, then you’d be well advised to tone down your atheism until you are better informed.

So who better informed you, that it was God's doing, just because science hasn't finished? Jumping to conclusions, huh!

You are falling into the same trap GR! ... you fill in the gaps with a ZEUS.

If science hasn’t finished then you might want to wait till they do before blindingly following them… even at the risk of never getting an answer!

[Oracle]

If you cannot explain the presence of the universe, then you’d be well advised to tone down your atheism until you are better informed.

So who better informed you, that it was God's doing, just because science hasn't finished? Jumping to conclusions, huh!

You are falling into the same trap GR! ... you fill in the gaps with a ZEUS.

If science hasn’t finished then you might want to wait till they do before blindingly following them… even at the risk of never getting an answer!

I don't blindingly follow any discipline, nor does any other scientist I know.

But what is obvious to any semi-modern Homo sapien is that science is slowly providing answers to every question we pose ....

And since I can now reproduce in the test tube, what a few years ago was deemed God's realm... then I know I am on the right path!

[Get Real!]

This one’s for Bananiot who will hopefully apply his quantum mechanics theories to enlighten us…

Bananiot, if the speed of light (which is around 1.08 billion km p/h) is the fastest speed attainable, then what’s the probability that future mankind will be traversing the Universe given that… to travel just from one end of our Galaxy (the Milky Way) to the other at the speed of light, one would need 100,000 Earth years?