Novus wrote:Pay attention kid, you did more than ask a question in your first post, you made a bold statement too and I am disproving your false statement about atheists. If you cannot recognize when you are being shown to have made an error, then you are not very observant.Get Real! wrote:Novus wrote:For this reason you are asking for something that science will not give, you are asking for something that cannot be proven with today's science beyond all doubt...
If you cannot prove anything why are you wasting my time?
I am not surprised you are incapable of understanding.The thing is that the atheist is not an atheist because they can prove the alternate origin to the universe, or that they can prove there is no god, they just need to show that there is no proof, evidence or rational reason to believe gods created the universe or that they exist to have a strong position, so they have every right to be as toned up about their atheism as they want and you are the one who should consider keeping quiet because you are making a fool of yourself.
What on earth are you mumbling about? Were you asked to define an atheist in this thread, because I'm not the slightest bit interested in your eulogy...
I do not care what you asked me to define or not because you do not get to set the criteria as I said before. You made a bold statement in your first post about atheists so man up and either defend it, or STFU. An athiest's postition or philosophy does not hinge on whether or not your belief that pink unicorns invented the huniverse is uprovable.Science calls it hypothesis and then theories and then they are subject to testing and experimentation to establish their merit.The origin of the universe is laid out in possible theories with some scientific basis for them, but they are not facts and they are not proven at this point and may never be proven. One theory is born out of the String theory for instance http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1270726.stm
Right, so the "Big Splat" preceded the “Big Bang” eh? Well, have you ever considered that you can combine these two fine theories into the BIG FART?
Tell me something, do you atheists have a competition going to see who can come up with the most ridiculous fantasies?
Fantasies and mythology to explain the universe without any testing for truth is what religion is based on. You have it backwards.Cannot you read? I never claimed I or any atheist has disproven anything because I stated numerous times that it is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of a god or someone's fantasy that there is one....because atheism is based on a lack of evidence of a god,
The Universe is the BIGGEST TANGIBLE ENTITY shoved right in your FACE… yet you haven’t got a clue how it came about, and you want to claim here that you’ve disproved the existence of an infinite being?
Let’s talk about your IQ…
You are totally clueless about the atheist's philosophy, there is no need for the atheist to prove a god does not exist because there is no reason to think any gods do.
If you say that a bolt of lightning that struck near us came from Zeus, it would be ridiculous to even bother to try and prove it to you that it did not because you will except no evidence, but since I have no reason to believe Zeus threw a lightning bolt and you offer no evidence that is was Zeus other than the fact a lightning bolt did indeed strike near us, I will continue to be an atheist who has no reason to believe in Zeus Almighty.
The existence of the universe is not proof your Zeus and Gaia exists, it is just evidence the universe exists. It takes fantasy to create a mythology to jump to the conclusion that gods created the universe with no other evidence and atheists do not believe in fantasy and mythology and do not need to disprove your fantasy to make our position stronger, we just dismiss your fantasy as being unrealistic and baseless.
What a great and accurate response.
