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[Get Real!]

I've heard that the odds of the big bang and all the elements required to create life happening by chance would be like winning the lottery 5 times in a row...

That's a very flawed assumption because it suggests that there is some chance of getting something out of nothing but that’s impossible!

[spiritoftheage]

One for the unwavering atheists…

If God doesn’t exist, then how do you explain the presence of the universe?

NB: You cannot start your theory with an imaginary “big bang” unless you’re prepared to explain how and why this “bang” was triggered. For example, if this “bang” was a release of mechanical, chemical, or nuclear energy, then you must be able to explain WHERE the necessary elements came from, and WHAT triggered this ignition.

If you cannot explain the presence of the universe, then you’d be well advised to tone down your atheism until you are better informed.


Regards, GR.

GR, Are you suggesting that god created the universe? If so, where is the proof? Which god created it and how?
If you can`t answer that, you better be prepared to tone down your religious `BELIEFS`.
They are after all, BELIEFS. Science is gradually PROVING without doubt , that there is NO god or gods. While science is also PROVING with the aid of theories and images and data, how the universe MAY have been created.

[miltiades]

There is NOT one iota of either scientific proof or logic that the universe was created by a god , a god that does not exist and NEVER has existed.
Man's inability to explain the existence and creation of the universe does non mean that there is or was a creator.
If everything must have been created, then god must have been created as well. If god is not created, then everything mustn't have a creator, so why should life or cosmos have one?

Check out the overwhelming majority of theists and you will be amazed how high the level of illeteracy is amongst them.

[Piratis]

One for the unwavering atheists…

If God doesn’t exist, then how do you explain the presence of the universe?

NB: You cannot start your theory with an imaginary “big bang” unless you’re prepared to explain how and why this “bang” was triggered. For example, if this “bang” was a release of mechanical, chemical, or nuclear energy, then you must be able to explain WHERE the necessary elements came from, and WHAT triggered this ignition.

If you cannot explain the presence of the universe, then you’d be well advised to tone down your atheism until you are better informed.


Regards, GR.

Get Real, the Big Bang theory is a theory that has at least some scientific basis. Actually several of your questions could be easily answered by a Cosmologist.

But this is very complicated science and Physics, you will have to take a whole course, if not a degree, in order to fully understand it. This is not a Fairy tale kind of theory like the God Theory, which can be explained to 5 year old children.

The God theory on the other hand is something totally imaginary and with no basis whatsoever.

So if you don't like imaginary theories then how can you accept the God Theory which is nothing more than imagination?

Furthermore, any specific religion theories have already been proven wrong. For example we already know for a fact that the world was not created in 7 days and that the earth is not the center of the universe. These God Theories were made by people who obviously didn't know as much about our universe as we do today, and the theories that they made reveal this lack of knowledge.

At the end of the day we don't know any definitive answers to the "big questions". What we do know is the wrong answers, and all religions which were made by humans 2000 or so years ago, have now been rendered obsolete by our scientific discoveries since then.

[Oracle]

First prove that the existence of a Universe has an a priori requirement for the pre existence of a god.

[Oracle]

If God exists irrespective of whether I believe in him or not, then why do I have to believe in him?

[Get Real!]

Get Real, the Big Bang theory is a theory that has at least some scientific basis. Actually several of your questions could be easily answered by a Cosmologist.

Piratis, the “big bang” theory is one that attempts to explain the EXPANSION of the cosmos but NOT its birth.

The initial trigger is the most important thing and not the natural yet complex process that took place thereafter, which the “big bang” theory then tries to explain.

Furthermore, any specific religion theories have already been proven wrong. For example we already know for a fact that the world was not created in 7 days and that the earth is not the center of the universe.

When you read in the bible that the universe was created in 7 days it actually refers to 7 millenniums not 24-hour days!

[Get Real!]

GR, Are you suggesting that god created the universe? If so, where is the proof? Which god created it and how?
If you can`t answer that, you better be prepared to tone down your religious `BELIEFS`.

Reversing the question is not an answer.

Science is gradually PROVING without doubt , that there is NO god or gods.

Really? Which kind of science would that be?

[Get Real!]

First prove that the existence of a Universe has an a priori requirement for the pre existence of a god.

Every living thing must have a BIRTH or a SOURCE if you like, otherwise it must be infinite... (<- reminds you of something?)

If God exists irrespective of whether I believe in him or not, then why do I have to believe in him?

I don't know, but how is this relevant to the thread?

[Piratis]

Get Real, the Big Bang theory is a theory that has at least some scientific basis. Actually several of your questions could be easily answered by a Cosmologist.

Piratis, the “big bang” theory is one that attempts to explain the EXPANSION of the cosmos but NOT its birth.

The initial trigger is the most important thing and not the natural yet complex process that took place thereafter, which the “big bang” theory then tries to explain.

There are theories for the initial trigger as well. But if we assume that there was a big bang then your Religion theories are proven wrong already. Is there anything in the Bible referring to a big bang? No.

Furthermore, any specific religion theories have already been proven wrong. For example we already know for a fact that the world was not created in 7 days and that the earth is not the center of the universe.

When you read in the bible that the universe was created in 7 days it actually refers to 7 millenniums not 24-hour days!

Maybe it actually refers to the seven dwarfs?

Some centuries ago you could be executed if you dared to say that the world was not created in 7 days (24 hours), or that the earth is not the center of the world.

As more and more of their stupid theories are proven wrong, Religious leaders try to cover it up with saying "oh, it says this, but it refers to that", and similar lame excuses.

By the way, seven millenniums (7000 years) is still not much different than 7 days. We know for a fact that our universe is more than 10 billion (10000000000) years old

Now like a good religious person go and "refer" from your bible what science taught you, and say that each day is a billion years

And even if you did this, the scale would be way way off from reality. It would be easier to start with the Cinderella story and "refer" from there.