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[Viewpoint]

Now the Oramses should counter sue the "ROC" for the land in the south and the GCs can no longer link anything to a solution or else they should have done the same in this case.

Sue them VP! I hope you all do, and I hope you all come and take your properties. With only very few exceptions, it is all here waiting for you. In fact, the more of you do so, the more our position regarding our properties in the north is strengthened, because you will no longer use the lies you tell the British regarding "exchange" land.

PS: Your newly elected leader, Eroglu, among other rubbish and nonsense he uttered in his interview in "Simerini" newspaper on Sunday, he also said that after 1974 we have made an "exchange of populations" agreement, between north and south[sic!] When did this happen and none of us is aware of it? Don't you feel ashamed to have elected a leader that lies in such a provocative manner?

Kifeas believe it or not there are TCs who have not claimed anything but due to a hardening of views they are now considering taking the "RoC" to court just on principle either to prove they discriminate or to get the right to their land in the south prior to a solution.

The other side of the coin are those who now will use the exchanged land is not valid arguement and still claim land in the south, this will open the way for double dipping which the GCs have no way of checking as they adamantly do not communicate with the TRNC authorities which in this case they should.

What are the property prices like in the Gandu area?

Tc after TC has come here and other threads on this forum and said that the uncontrolled free for all that the occupied regime has been encouraging was bound to blow up in your face and yet here you are...still spitting...still insisting that you represent all tc's...still blaming all you woes on the Greek Cypriots.

What exactly makes you so angry? The fact that its harder to sell GC land in the north now? Or the fact that we would like nothing better than for all TCs to claim there land in the govt controlled areas?

35 years how many TCs have gotten back their land? your biased courts have told them to wait until a solution is found.

[Viewpoint]

74LB this case is going for quite some time yet, so I am afraid you will just have to ignore it until its finalised. One thing for certain though is that the people in the north who created this situation are back in power.

The TC civil iniatives and media should pressurize UBP to give priority to solve the property ownership but not with one sided and self-favoured TRNC property compensation/exchange board.

insan I get the feeling the new TRNC government is preparing something and the GCs are not gonna like it.

[insan]

74LB this case is going for quite some time yet, so I am afraid you will just have to ignore it until its finalised. One thing for certain though is that the people in the north who created this situation are back in power.

The TC civil iniatives and media should pressurize UBP to give priority to solve the property ownership but not with one sided and self-favoured TRNC property compensation/exchange board.

insan I get the feeling the new TRNC government is preparing something and the GCs are not gonna like it.

Wouldn't it be better to preapre something the refugees of both communities will like?

[Viewpoint]

74LB this case is going for quite some time yet, so I am afraid you will just have to ignore it until its finalised. One thing for certain though is that the people in the north who created this situation are back in power.

The TC civil iniatives and media should pressurize UBP to give priority to solve the property ownership but not with one sided and self-favoured TRNC property compensation/exchange board.

insan I get the feeling the new TRNC government is preparing something and the GCs are not gonna like it.

Wouldn't it be better to preapre something the refugees of both communities will like?

When has that ever been the case? neither side thinks that way itsjust a matter of scoring point and running the other side into the ground.

[erolz3]

The problem with just saying that 'everyone should just return to their homes as of pre 74' is that it leaves the TC community as it was from 64-74. Whilst that may be no problem for GC surely you have to understand why such is a problem for TC ?

We want the property issue to be sorted, as fairly and justly as is possible given what has happend, sorted at the indivdual and communal levels but this for us is simply not the only issue that needs to be sorted out and we do fear the piecemeal approch to a 'solution' that seeks to address the GC communites issues created post 74 whilst ingoring our prior to 74.

[Kifeas]

Now the Oramses should counter sue the "ROC" for the land in the south and the GCs can no longer link anything to a solution or else they should have done the same in this case.

Sue them VP! I hope you all do, and I hope you all come and take your properties. With only very few exceptions, it is all here waiting for you. In fact, the more of you do so, the more our position regarding our properties in the north is strengthened, because you will no longer use the lies you tell the British regarding "exchange" land.

PS: Your newly elected leader, Eroglu, among other rubbish and nonsense he uttered in his interview in "Simerini" newspaper on Sunday, he also said that after 1974 we have made an "exchange of populations" agreement, between north and south[sic!] When did this happen and none of us is aware of it? Don't you feel ashamed to have elected a leader that lies in such a provocative manner?

Kifeas believe it or not there are TCs who have not claimed anything but due to a hardening of views they are now considering taking the "RoC" to court just on principle either to prove they discriminate or to get the right to their land in the south prior to a solution.

The other side of the coin are those who now will use the exchanged land is not valid arguement and still claim land in the south, this will open the way for double dipping which the GCs have no way of checking as they adamantly do not communicate with the TRNC authorities which in this case they should.

What are the property prices like in the Gandu area?

VP, I am afraid you have not yet realized that the fairytale of the so-called exchange land is now over and totally irrelevant, and that whatever claims some or many TCs do in the north is just a pie in the sky, without any legal substance. If some TCs will be "double dipping" as you say, the only people they harm are those thinking of "buying" properties from them, but also the rest of you TCs and the people of Turkey, who will one day be called upon paying the bill of your leadership's irresponsibility.

Let me ask you a question here. Why do you think the GC side will have a problem allowing you to claim all your properties in the south, so that we will be able to more effectively claim all our properties in the north, if yours in the south amount to only 1/4 of the GC properties in the north, and in terms of value the difference may even be bigger?

[Kikapu]

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch"

Erolz, just out of curiosity, did you vote in the recent elections in the north, or yet still, have you ever voted in any democratic elections.??

[insan]

74LB this case is going for quite some time yet, so I am afraid you will just have to ignore it until its finalised. One thing for certain though is that the people in the north who created this situation are back in power.

The TC civil iniatives and media should pressurize UBP to give priority to solve the property ownership but not with one sided and self-favoured TRNC property compensation/exchange board.

insan I get the feeling the new TRNC government is preparing something and the GCs are not gonna like it.

Wouldn't it be better to preapre something the refugees of both communities will like?

When has that ever been the case? neither side thinks that way itsjust a matter of scoring point and running the other side into the ground.

True but i really believe that the establishment of an impartiali bi-communal properties board would be beneficial for both sides. Such a properties board must allow all legal owners to claim whatever they wish.(restitution and/or exchange and/or compensation).

[Kifeas]

The problem with just saying that 'everyone should just return to their homes as of pre 74' is that it leaves the TC community as it was from 64-74. Whilst that may be no problem for GC surely you have to understand why such is a problem for TC ?

For the record, regardless of what happened between GCs and TCs during 1964-74, there has never been a single usurpation of TC property during that period or afterwards, and their status remained as it was between 1960-63. Therefore, everyone (GCs and TCs alike) returning back to their legally owned properties, does not by default leave the TC community as it was from 1964-74.

[insan]

The problem with just saying that 'everyone should just return to their homes as of pre 74' is that it leaves the TC community as it was from 64-74. Whilst that may be no problem for GC surely you have to understand why such is a problem for TC ?

For the record, regardless of what happened between GCs and TCs during 1964-74, there has never been a single usurpation of TC property during that period or afterwards, and their status remained as it was between 1960-63. Therefore, everyone (GC and TC alike) returning back to their legally owned properties, does not by default leave the TC community as it was from 1964-74.

I have doubts abt usurption of TC properties by RoC governments.