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[Paphitis]

Includes the monitoring of the illegal Tymbou airport.

http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb ... V=articles

Great to see Cyprus and Greece enter a new era of air defence cooperation.

In reality, there is no other option but to defend all of the Nicosia FIR particularly if the peace talks come to a close.

Cyprus could use some HAF resources to intercept and escort even airline passenger aircraft from the legitimate Nicosia FIR. Their is no international law that could prevent Cyprus from regaining control of her very own airspace.

If Greece is able to intercept and defend the Athens FIR from countless daily TAF incursions into their FIR and national airspace, then there is no reason why Cyprus should not do the same when the political climate changes.

Fantastic, lets hope they come to your aid quicker than last time, assuming that they get out of their bases.

Cross over to the TRNC airspace and escort planes and it will not be just flu you'll be catching you little swine.

This is a cooperation pact and rest assured that the Cyprus National Guard is able to shoot down a passenger aircraft on approach to Tymbou within her own sovereign airspace.

And with this Air Defence Pact between Cyprus and Greece, the Cyprus National Guard is set to obtain more goodies in the very near future.

So my prediction of war may not be far away then?
Did you say shoot down a passenger aircraft?

Will you be lending them some of your australian, chemical, biological and nuclear weapons too?

Shooting down passenger aircraft is inevitable if it violates our national airspace and flies towards our cities. We would even shoot down our own passenger aircraft if need be. September 11 changed everything and it is about time Cyprus started to stand up for herself instead of negotiating with invaders and looters.

You are one sick - dir individual. I gather you are a pilot. All I can say is that I hope you just fly for crop spraying otherwise sik some help from a psychiatrist dear boy - you have death all over in your mind.

Agricultural Crop Dusters are highly skilled pilots. They need to be in order to stay alive. One of the most dangerous professions there is.

What is so disgusting with protection the integrity of you're own sovereign airspace? Turkey would do the exact same thing. When Helios crashed in Grammatico, it was intercepted by armed HAF F-16s before impact. Why did Greece do this? Could it be they were prepared to shoot down a Cypriot passenger aircraft because it was not responding to Air Traffic Control (ATC)?

If all countries are prepared to defend their national airspace in such a way, then why should Cyprus be any different?

[AWE]

all states have a right to defend their airspace, but given that the flights in and out of Ercan have been going on since the mid-70s they can hardly say that the aircraft was a threat if it is following the usual routes.

[Paphitis]

all states have a right to defend their airspace, but given that the flights in and out of Ercan have been going on since the mid-70s they can hardly say that the aircraft was a threat if it is following the usual routes.

It is still a violation of sovereign airspace and given this fact, then Cyprus would be justified with regaining control of her airspace as recognized by ICAO.

Sure there would be an outcry of condemnation to any country that downs an airliner. But most other countries couldn't care less about that.

But alas, Cyprus just creates one precedent after another and our situation just gets worse and worse.

[YFred]

Includes the monitoring of the illegal Tymbou airport.

http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb ... V=articles

Great to see Cyprus and Greece enter a new era of air defence cooperation.

In reality, there is no other option but to defend all of the Nicosia FIR particularly if the peace talks come to a close.

Cyprus could use some HAF resources to intercept and escort even airline passenger aircraft from the legitimate Nicosia FIR. Their is no international law that could prevent Cyprus from regaining control of her very own airspace.

If Greece is able to intercept and defend the Athens FIR from countless daily TAF incursions into their FIR and national airspace, then there is no reason why Cyprus should not do the same when the political climate changes.

Fantastic, lets hope they come to your aid quicker than last time, assuming that they get out of their bases.

Cross over to the TRNC airspace and escort planes and it will not be just flu you'll be catching you little swine.

This is a cooperation pact and rest assured that the Cyprus National Guard is able to shoot down a passenger aircraft on approach to Tymbou within her own sovereign airspace.

And with this Air Defence Pact between Cyprus and Greece, the Cyprus National Guard is set to obtain more goodies in the very near future.

So my prediction of war may not be far away then?
Did you say shoot down a passenger aircraft?

Will you be lending them some of your australian, chemical, biological and nuclear weapons too?

Shooting down passenger aircraft is inevitable if it violates our national airspace and flies towards our cities. We would even shoot down our own passenger aircraft if need be. September 11 changed everything and it is about time Cyprus started to stand up for herself instead of negotiating with invaders and looters.

You are one sick - dir individual. I gather you are a pilot. All I can say is that I hope you just fly for crop spraying otherwise sik some help from a psychiatrist dear boy - you have death all over in your mind.

Agricultural Crop Dusters are highly skilled pilots. They need to be in order to stay alive. One of he most dangerous professions there is.

What is so disgusting with protection the integrity of you're own sovereign airspace? Turkey would do the exact same thing. When Helios aircraft that crashed in Grammatico Greece was intercepted by armed HAF F-16s before impact. Why did Greece do this. Could it be they were prepared to shoot down a Cypriot passenger aircraft because it was not responding to Air Traffic Control (ATC)?

If all countries are prepared to defend their national airspace in such a way, then why should Cyprus be any different?

Get some help.

[Get Real!]

Includes the monitoring of the illegal Tymbou airport.

Given its close proximity to the dead zone, all you need is a good pair of binoculars for that! That’s what I did in the mid 80s…

[kurupetos]

Does anybody know how much it will cost?

The expenses will be paid by EU funding, the money originally planned to be given to the TCs.

[Paphitis]

Includes the monitoring of the illegal Tymbou airport.

Given its close proximity to the dead zone, all you need is a good pair of binoculars for that! That’s what I did in the mid 80s…

And due to its close proximity to the dead zone, those Mistral S2As might be useful after all with their 5080m range....

[AWE]

all states have a right to defend their airspace, but given that the flights in and out of Ercan have been going on since the mid-70s they can hardly say that the aircraft was a threat if it is following the usual routes.

It is still a violation of sovereign airspace and given this fact, then Cyprus would be justified with regaining control of her airspace as recognized by ICAO.

Sure there would be an outcry of condemnation to any country that downs an airliner.
But alas, Cyprus just creates one precedent after another and our situation just gets worse and worse.

Outcry (perhaps as an absolute minimum from a country that hates Turkey more then the RoC) and if a THY aircraft an act of war.

PS not sure what you mean by "But most other countries couldn't care less about that."?

[Paphitis]

all states have a right to defend their airspace, but given that the flights in and out of Ercan have been going on since the mid-70s they can hardly say that the aircraft was a threat if it is following the usual routes.

It is still a violation of sovereign airspace and given this fact, then Cyprus would be justified with regaining control of her airspace as recognized by ICAO.

Sure there would be an outcry of condemnation to any country that downs an airliner.
But alas, Cyprus just creates one precedent after another and our situation just gets worse and worse.

Outcry (perhaps as an absolute minimum from a country that hates Turkey more then the RoC) and if a THY aircraft an act of war.

PS not sure what you mean by "But most other countries couldn't care less about that."?

Some countries have actually ratified intercept procedures for commercial airliners which actually means that they WILL shoot down a commercial airliner if they have to. These procedures also apply to locally registered aircraft.

There would be an international outcry if one of these countries actually downs an intercepted aircraft which does not comply with intercept orders. But that country would not be concerned with the international outcry as there is bugger all the UN or ICAO can do about it, and that is a fact.

[AWE]

all states have a right to defend their airspace, but given that the flights in and out of Ercan have been going on since the mid-70s they can hardly say that the aircraft was a threat if it is following the usual routes.

It is still a violation of sovereign airspace and given this fact, then Cyprus would be justified with regaining control of her airspace as recognized by ICAO.

Sure there would be an outcry of condemnation to any country that downs an airliner.
But alas, Cyprus just creates one precedent after another and our situation just gets worse and worse.

Outcry (perhaps as an absolute minimum from a country that hates Turkey more then the RoC) and if a THY aircraft an act of war.

PS not sure what you mean by "But most other countries couldn't care less about that."?

Some countries have actually ratified intercept procedures for commercial airliners which actually means that they WILL shoot down a commercial airliner if they have to. These procedures also apply to locally registered aircraft.

There would be an international outcry if one of these countries actually downs an intercepted aircraft which does not comply with intercept orders. But that country would not be concerned with the international outcry as there is bugger all the UN or ICAO can do about it, and that is a fact.

Apart from the fact that the world would see that downing an airliner, that is flying a regular route, as mass murder - we both know that RoC is not likely to do this anyway - but even if the UN and ICAO can do nothing public opinion would force other governments to act, and therefore possibly the UN and ICAO.