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[Get Real!]

Back to square one.

Great. Square one was a united Cyprus!

It's the second square you need to think about.

You mean hole as in... square peg in a round hole!

[cymart]

The sad reality is that the vast majority of Cypriots today are interested in money,money and more money and have no ideals except self-glorification and trying to keep up with each other in the latest fashions,cars and houses etc!The recession might bring them back down to earth and then they might begin to think about where they are going?You only have to go to somewhere like Protaras where the Nicosia elite hang out at weekends to see what their values are.....you can see Varosha rotting away just up the coast,but who cares any more ???
If you come to Paphos it's even worse-most people here have probably never heard of such places and care even less about what happens in the north as long as it does not spoil their enjoyment!

[Viewpoint]

The sad reality is that the vast majority of Cypriots today are interested in money,money and more money and have no ideals except self-glorification and trying to keep up with each other in the latest fashions,cars and houses etc!The recession might bring them back down to earth and then they might begin to think about where they are going?You only have to go to somewhere like Protaras where the Nicosia elite hang out at weekends to see what their values are.....you can see Varosha rotting away just up the coast,but who cares any more ???
If you come to Paphos it's even worse-most people here have probably never heard of such places and care even less about what happens in the north as long as it does not spoil their enjoyment!

Totally agree the new generation TCs dont even know the south, its like another country to them.

[cymart]

Mind you after watching all these failed politicians for 35 years can we blame them?

[Viewpoint]

Mind you after watching all these failed politicians for 35 years can we blame them?

46 years of living apart, the chance to build a Cypriot people died in 1963.

[miltiades]

The sad reality is that the vast majority of Cypriots today are interested in money,money and more money and have no ideals except self-glorification and trying to keep up with each other in the latest fashions,cars and houses etc!The recession might bring them back down to earth and then they might begin to think about where they are going?You only have to go to somewhere like Protaras where the Nicosia elite hang out at weekends to see what their values are.....you can see Varosha rotting away just up the coast,but who cares any more ???
If you come to Paphos it's even worse-most people here have probably never heard of such places and care even less about what happens in the north as long as it does not spoil their enjoyment!

Totally agree the new generation TCs dont even know the south, its like another country to them.

Rubbish. There are approximately 80 thousand T/Cs in the north. 60 thousand of them holders of the ROC passport / ID .
Thousands cross every day for work and to shop. Many more for health treatment at the RoC hospitals . You VP is the only one mate !!

[cymart]

Less Turkish Cypriots now crossover because the number of jobs they had in the construction industry in the south has been greatly reduced as a result of the recession.The largest number cross in Nicosia for shopping,hospital appointments etc. for the simple reason that it's more practical and they don't need to bring their cars if they want to come on foot via Ledra St. and Ledra Palace.The number of Greek-Cypriots crossing north is sadly much fewer and the regulars are die-hard casino and cabaret addicts, and nostalgic refugees who still make occasional trips to their former villages and towns or visit relatives in the Karpas.
Despite the initial enthusiasm in 2003/4 when people were optimistic that a solution was at hand,many have given up going any more because they see no point.......This is something which the leadership on both sides should look at with urgency as people need to be actively encouraged to get to know each other better as part of a drive towards a solution.The opening of the Limnitis checkpoint and Kokkina for transit is an urgent requirement which will greatly contribute towards this as well as helping the local people in the area.Many people from Paphos area are put-off by the sheer expense and inconvenience of travelling half way round the island to get to a check-point,for example....Another place is the Pyroi checkpoint which will help people in Athienou and other villages there get to and from Nicosia.

[Sotos]

Mind you after watching all these failed politicians for 35 years can we blame them?

46 years of living apart, the chance to build a Cypriot people died in 1963.

The Cypriot people exist for 1000s of years. Maybe you mean the chance to integrate the Turks into the Cypriot people died in 1963?

[EPSILON]

The recent monumental decision of the ECJ is an incontrovertible proof that the political "war" through legal means can achieve stupendous results without one drop of blood , one tear being shed.

Take note that Options have NOT expired , not within the legal means . Those warmongers must now rethink and reassess their thinking .Only political "combat" based on the rule of law can achieve what 100 wars can not.
Some time back I, as well as many other Forum members proclaimed the Cyprus entry into the EU as the greatest EVER milestone in Cyprus's history.

Sometime back again I along with many other forum members supported the resolution of the Cyprus problem through peaceful political means . We are witnessing the benefits of peaceful legal efforts .
The options are many , none demand violence , bloodshed or conflict.

Miltiades, explain that to the construction workers who will now find themselves out of work and unable to feed their family. See how supporting they will be. All this has done is made peace more difficult whilst not helping one iota towards giving this man his property back. Perhaps they will be tempted to become crooks and join the mafia instead, because they will find easy pickings in the south selling drugs. Of course it would be their fault for losing their jobs.
For your benefit, I have done a little research of everyone TC I know and not found one person supporting this judgement.

Dear -is not our obligation to protect the jobs of the certain people.Turkey advertizing that is invated Cyprus to protect them. Apply to Turkey and ask their the reason for which the most T/cs moved to UK after this "helpful" invasion.

[YFred]

The recent monumental decision of the ECJ is an incontrovertible proof that the political "war" through legal means can achieve stupendous results without one drop of blood , one tear being shed.

Take note that Options have NOT expired , not within the legal means . Those warmongers must now rethink and reassess their thinking .Only political "combat" based on the rule of law can achieve what 100 wars can not.
Some time back I, as well as many other Forum members proclaimed the Cyprus entry into the EU as the greatest EVER milestone in Cyprus's history.

Sometime back again I along with many other forum members supported the resolution of the Cyprus problem through peaceful political means . We are witnessing the benefits of peaceful legal efforts .
The options are many , none demand violence , bloodshed or conflict.

Miltiades, explain that to the construction workers who will now find themselves out of work and unable to feed their family. See how supporting they will be. All this has done is made peace more difficult whilst not helping one iota towards giving this man his property back. Perhaps they will be tempted to become crooks and join the mafia instead, because they will find easy pickings in the south selling drugs. Of course it would be their fault for losing their jobs.
For your benefit, I have done a little research of everyone TC I know and not found one person supporting this judgement.

Dear -is not our obligation to protect the jobs of the certain people.Turkey advertizing that is invated Cyprus to protect them. Apply to Turkey and ask their the reason for which the most T/cs moved to UK after this "helpful" invasion.

But, you are occupying TC’s land and preventing him them from using it. If you view this as a lease, problem is solved. So long as the buyer agrees that in the settlement, the TC land in the south will be taken in the consideration and there may be monies to be paid in either direction, what's the problem? The TC's rights are also trampled all over in the current arrangement and the GC government is partly to blame for dragging it for so long.