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[yiannisP]

I would be interested in hearing your suggestions on this draft of a letter I am planning to send to my MP concerning the ECJ judgment on Apostolides v Orams. Thanks

Dear Mr X

I am writing to you concerning the recent judgment of the European Court of Justice in the case of Apostolides v Orams C-420/07.

I refer you to the following urls concerning the full judgment of the European Court and a press release summary concerning the same.

http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/EUECJ/2009/C42007.html

http://curia.europa.eu/en/actu/communiq ... 0039en.pdf

This ruling has serious implications for anyone in a Member State who purchases land and/or property in the northern Turkish occupied region of the island of Cyprus. The Court held that the Orams, a British couple who had purchased land in the northern occupied region from a third party to construct a holiday home, must abide by the ruling of the Court in Nicosia to demolish the property and pay compensation to the rightful owner, Mr Apostolides inter alia. Significantly, this ruling must be recognised and enforced by EU Member States, even though it concerns land situated in the northern part of the island over which the Republic of Cyprus has limited effective control.

The judgment forms part of a long running campaign for justice on the island where in 1974 around 200,000 Greek Cypriots were forcibly expelled from their properties and made to settle in the southern part of the island. This dispossession is still being maintained by the military force of Turkey and its illegal occupying regime on the island, which still refuses to cede the property and land to its rightful owners, and have instead illegally allowed immigration and property sales to further entrench the status quo.

I would be grateful if you could raise awareness of this matter in the House of Commons and anywhere else you see fit, and also pursue such avenues that in your opinion would promote a resolution to this unjust situation that has been ongoing for 35 years.


Yours sincerely,

x

[Get Real!]

You may want to add this section as well...

"Actions for failure to fulfil obligations

These actions enable the Court of Justice to determine whether a Member State has fulfilled its obligations under Community law. Before bringing the case before the Court of Justice, the Commission conducts a preliminary procedure in which the Member State is given the opportunity to reply to the complaints against it. If that procedure does not result in the Member State terminating the failure, an action for infringement of Community law may be brought before the Court of Justice.

The action may be brought by the Commission — as, in practice, is usually the case — or by a Member State. If the Court finds that an obligation has not been fulfilled, the State must bring the failure to an end without delay. If, after a further action is brought by the Commission, the Court of Justice finds that the Member State concerned has not complied with its judgment, it may impose on it a fixed or periodic financial penalty. "

http://curia.europa.eu/en/instit/presen ... ex_cje.htm

[YFred]

I would be interested in hearing your suggestions on this draft of a letter I am planning to send to my MP concerning the ECJ judgment on Apostolides v Orams. Thanks

Dear Mr X

I am writing to you concerning the recent judgment of the European Court of Justice in the case of Apostolides v Orams C-420/07.

I refer you to the following urls concerning the full judgment of the European Court and a press release summary concerning the same.

http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/EUECJ/2009/C42007.html

http://curia.europa.eu/en/actu/communiq ... 0039en.pdf

This ruling has serious implications for anyone in a Member State who purchases land and/or property in the northern Turkish occupied region of the island of Cyprus. The Court held that the Orams, a British couple who had purchased land in the northern occupied region from a third party to construct a holiday home, must abide by the ruling of the Court in Nicosia to demolish the property and pay compensation to the rightful owner, Mr Apostolides inter alia. Significantly, this ruling must be recognised and enforced by EU Member States, even though it concerns land situated in the northern part of the island over which the Republic of Cyprus has limited effective control.

The judgment forms part of a long running campaign for justice on the island where in 1974 around 200,000 Greek Cypriots were forcibly expelled from their properties and made to settle in the southern part of the island. This dispossession is still being maintained by the military force of Turkey and its illegal occupying regime on the island, which still refuses to cede the property and land to its rightful owners, and have instead illegally allowed immigration and property sales to further entrench the status quo.

I would be grateful if you could raise awareness of this matter in the House of Commons and anywhere else you see fit, and also pursue such avenues that in your opinion would promote a resolution to this unjust situation that has been ongoing for 35 years.


Yours sincerely,

x

Can you also include that this is the most irresponsible act which will cause greater hardship to the TCs then they have already suffered thus far and also may make peace impossible and may even lead to war with 10s of thousands being killed.

I think that will put your MP in the picture.

[Hermes]

Can you also include that this is the most irresponsible act which will cause greater hardship to the TCs then they have already suffered thus far and also may make peace impossible and may even lead to war with 10s of thousands being killed.

Don't be stupid, Fred. Why would we attack the north? Unless of course you are threatening us?

[miltiades]

I would be interested in hearing your suggestions on this draft of a letter I am planning to send to my MP concerning the ECJ judgment on Apostolides v Orams. Thanks

Dear Mr X

I am writing to you concerning the recent judgment of the European Court of Justice in the case of Apostolides v Orams C-420/07.

I refer you to the following urls concerning the full judgment of the European Court and a press release summary concerning the same.

http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/EUECJ/2009/C42007.html

http://curia.europa.eu/en/actu/communiq ... 0039en.pdf

This ruling has serious implications for anyone in a Member State who purchases land and/or property in the northern Turkish occupied region of the island of Cyprus. The Court held that the Orams, a British couple who had purchased land in the northern occupied region from a third party to construct a holiday home, must abide by the ruling of the Court in Nicosia to demolish the property and pay compensation to the rightful owner, Mr Apostolides inter alia. Significantly, this ruling must be recognised and enforced by EU Member States, even though it concerns land situated in the northern part of the island over which the Republic of Cyprus has limited effective control.

The judgment forms part of a long running campaign for justice on the island where in 1974 around 200,000 Greek Cypriots were forcibly expelled from their properties and made to settle in the southern part of the island. This dispossession is still being maintained by the military force of Turkey and its illegal occupying regime on the island, which still refuses to cede the property and land to its rightful owners, and have instead illegally allowed immigration and property sales to further entrench the status quo.

I would be grateful if you could raise awareness of this matter in the House of Commons and anywhere else you see fit, and also pursue such avenues that in your opinion would promote a resolution to this unjust situation that has been ongoing for 35 years.


Yours sincerely,

x

Can you also include that this is the most irresponsible act which will cause greater hardship to the TCs then they have already suffered thus far and also may make peace impossible and may even lead to war with 10s of thousands being killed.

I think that will put your MP in the picture.

Fred you do surprise me mate. Why on earth should an act by the ECJ be seen by you as an "irresponsible" act . I thought you were far more intense than dismissing this monumental decision which will affect all decent law abiding Cypriots . Why should a decision that supports justice be " irresponsible " , what logic has determined that the LEGAL owner of the land on which unscroupulous Brits have built their villa is "irresponsible"

The T/Cs are also the victims of the illegal occupation and the illegal acts that took place and are still taking place.
Why do you think that this decision would encourage "war "
This decision has supported all that is decent and correct.

[kurupetos]

YFred, are you willing to join your fellow Cypriots and fight to death for Cyprus' freedom?

[The Cypriot]

Suggestions for redraft...


Dear Mr X

I am writing to you concerning the recent judgment of the European Court of Justice in the case of Apostolides v Orams C-420/07. in the hope that, as my MP, you can raise this matter in parliament and elsewhere.

I refer you to the following urls concerning the full judgment of the European Court and a press release summary concerning the same.

http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/EUECJ/2009/C42007.html

http://curia.europa.eu/en/actu/communiq ... 0039en.pdf

This ruling has serious implications for anyone in a Member State who purchases land and/or property in the northern part of the island of Cyprus currently controlled by Turkey's army. The Court held that the Orams, a British couple who had purchased land in this area from a third party to construct a holiday home, must abide by the ruling of the Court in Nicosia to demolish the property and pay compensation to the rightful owner, Mr Apostolides inter alia. Significantly, this ruling must be recognised and enforced by EU Member States, even though it concerns land situated in the northern part of the island over which the Republic of Cyprus has limited effective control.

The judgment forms part of a long running campaign for justice on the island where in 1974 around 200,000 people were forcibly expelled from their properties in the north when Turkey's army invaded. [and made to settle in the southern part of the island.] remove...

This dispossession is still being maintained by the military force of Turkey and its subordinate regime on the island, which still refuses to cede the property and land to its rightful owners, and have instead illegally allowed immigration and property sales to further entrench the status quo.

I would be grateful if you could raise awareness of this matter in the House of Commons and anywhere else you see fit, and also pursue such avenues that in your opinion would promote a resolution to this unjust situation that has been ongoing for 35 years.


Yours sincerely,

[bill cobbett]

Yiannis - your mp may already be active in support of the Noble Cause. Look up his/her record and if they are, thank them in the first line of your letter for their past support and ask for their further support in the matter you are raising.

[Viewpoint]

I would be interested in hearing your suggestions on this draft of a letter I am planning to send to my MP concerning the ECJ judgment on Apostolides v Orams. Thanks

Dear Mr X

I am writing to you concerning the recent judgment of the European Court of Justice in the case of Apostolides v Orams C-420/07.

I refer you to the following urls concerning the full judgment of the European Court and a press release summary concerning the same.

http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/EUECJ/2009/C42007.html

http://curia.europa.eu/en/actu/communiq ... 0039en.pdf

This ruling has serious implications for anyone in a Member State who purchases land and/or property in the northern Turkish occupied region of the island of Cyprus. The Court held that the Orams, a British couple who had purchased land in the northern occupied region from a third party to construct a holiday home, must abide by the ruling of the Court in Nicosia to demolish the property and pay compensation to the rightful owner, Mr Apostolides inter alia. Significantly, this ruling must be recognised and enforced by EU Member States, even though it concerns land situated in the northern part of the island over which the Republic of Cyprus has limited effective control.

The judgment forms part of a long running campaign for justice on the island where in 1974 around 200,000 Greek Cypriots were forcibly expelled from their properties and made to settle in the southern part of the island. This dispossession is still being maintained by the military force of Turkey and its illegal occupying regime on the island, which still refuses to cede the property and land to its rightful owners, and have instead illegally allowed immigration and property sales to further entrench the status quo.

I would be grateful if you could raise awareness of this matter in the House of Commons and anywhere else you see fit, and also pursue such avenues that in your opinion would promote a resolution to this unjust situation that has been ongoing for 35 years.


Yours sincerely,

x

Can you also include that this is the most irresponsible act which will cause greater hardship to the TCs then they have already suffered thus far and also may make peace impossible and may even lead to war with 10s of thousands being killed.

I think that will put your MP in the picture.

Fred you do surprise me mate. Why on earth should an act by the ECJ be seen by you as an "irresponsible" act . I thought you were far more intense than dismissing this monumental decision which will affect all decent law abiding Cypriots . Why should a decision that supports justice be " irresponsible " , what logic has determined that the LEGAL owner of the land on which unscroupulous Brits have built their villa is "irresponsible"

The T/Cs are also the victims of the illegal occupation and the illegal acts that took place and are still taking place.
Why do you think that this decision would encourage "war "
This decision has supported all that is decent and correct.

Do you realise this gives the biased GC courts a free hand to churn out decision as they see fit and have them carried out by EU member states? where will you be when the first TC residing in the UK is prosecuted and your discriminative courts rule their business in the UK is closed down?

Lets hope that the Brits have seen the implications and use a few words of caution linking action to a comprehensive solution this may then encourage GCs to work more positively towards compromise and really desiring a solution.

[Kifeas]

I would be interested in hearing your suggestions on this draft of a letter I am planning to send to my MP concerning the ECJ judgment on Apostolides v Orams. Thanks

Dear Mr X

I am writing to you concerning the recent judgment of the European Court of Justice in the case of Apostolides v Orams C-420/07.

I refer you to the following urls concerning the full judgment of the European Court and a press release summary concerning the same.

http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/EUECJ/2009/C42007.html

http://curia.europa.eu/en/actu/communiq ... 0039en.pdf

This ruling has serious implications for anyone in a Member State who purchases land and/or property in the northern Turkish occupied region of the island of Cyprus. The Court held that the Orams, a British couple who had purchased land in the northern occupied region from a third party to construct a holiday home, must abide by the ruling of the Court in Nicosia to demolish the property and pay compensation to the rightful owner, Mr Apostolides inter alia. Significantly, this ruling must be recognised and enforced by EU Member States, even though it concerns land situated in the northern part of the island over which the Republic of Cyprus has limited effective control.

The judgment forms part of a long running campaign for justice on the island where in 1974 around 200,000 Greek Cypriots were forcibly expelled from their properties and made to settle in the southern part of the island. This dispossession is still being maintained by the military force of Turkey and its illegal occupying regime on the island, which still refuses to cede the property and land to its rightful owners, and have instead illegally allowed immigration and property sales to further entrench the status quo.

I would be grateful if you could raise awareness of this matter in the House of Commons and anywhere else you see fit, and also pursue such avenues that in your opinion would promote a resolution to this unjust situation that has been ongoing for 35 years.


Yours sincerely,

x

Can you also include that this is the most irresponsible act which will cause greater hardship to the TCs then they have already suffered thus far and also may make peace impossible and may even lead to war with 10s of thousands being killed.

I think that will put your MP in the picture.

Fred you do surprise me mate. Why on earth should an act by the ECJ be seen by you as an "irresponsible" act . I thought you were far more intense than dismissing this monumental decision which will affect all decent law abiding Cypriots . Why should a decision that supports justice be " irresponsible " , what logic has determined that the LEGAL owner of the land on which unscroupulous Brits have built their villa is "irresponsible"

The T/Cs are also the victims of the illegal occupation and the illegal acts that took place and are still taking place.
Why do you think that this decision would encourage "war "
This decision has supported all that is decent and correct.

Do you realise this gives the biased GC courts a free hand to churn out decision as they see fit and have them carried out by EU member states? where will you be when the first TC residing in the UK is prosecuted and your discriminative courts rule their business in the UK is closed down?

Lets hope that the Brits have seen the implications and use a few words of caution linking action to a comprehensive solution this may then encourage GCs to work more positively towards compromise and really desiring a solution.

VP, if I were you, I would have avoided talking about the ruling and see instead what I can do towards a solution. I suppose you will realize this pretty soon, when you get the time to reflect on the verdict of the ECJ and what it means.