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Letter to MP concerning Apostolides v Orams

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Eurasia » Wed May 06, 2009 7:43 pm

YFred wrote:
Eurasia wrote:
YFred wrote:
suetoniuspaulinus wrote:It must be clear to All by now that the RoC cannot enforce their laws in the North which is why the case went to London in the first place. The "Aquis Communitaire " is suspended in TRNC. What will follow is very open to debate. But I will quote an old addage. "He who laughs last................... laughs the best"


Sooner or later the penny will drop or is it cents they use down south?

Fred.........are you one of those brits who tried to make a quick buck or pounds as they are called in the UK on the backs of peoples misery?
You brits are amazing,total loyalty to your pockets.

If I ever end up in court for anythimg anywhere I hope you are not the judge. You found me guilty knowing nothing about me. That's the kind of justice dished out to the TCs in RoC, you must be GC, are you old boy?

I am in the same situation as Mr A on this matter. GCs have been using my land since 1974. If you try to get your land back from RoC, you will know why I support the Orams. The RoC is run by racist legalised criminals.

I was born and bred in the sunny city of London.
As for your land being used...well I find that wrong to. So I guess you are also guilty of judging me without knowing a thing about me.
But i think you will find its the Trnc that is full of racist criminals as most of the world still see fit not to recognise them after so many decades.
This should tell you fred who the world see as criminals...ha
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Postby yiannisP » Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:50 am

Hi everyone.

I have finally recieved a response from my MP concerning the matter. He says he will send a copy to David Miliband and ask for a response.
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Postby yiannisP » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:16 pm

Hello again. I hope you are all well.

I have recieved another response from my MP and a response from the Foreign & Commonwealth Office. What do you think?

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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:59 pm

Better off sending a letter to the devil at least you know where you stand.
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:15 pm

Btw who is your MP?
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:48 pm

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Here are some points worth considering...

• While private legal proceedings may not, in the British government's opinion, be a substitute for a negotiated solution, this has not transpired in over 35 years since the tragic events of 1974. Unfortunately, there is no indication that Turkey – and certainly its military which currently controls the northern part of Cyprus – is prepared finally to adhere to EU and international law, enabling a solution by and for Cypriots. Indeed there is much evidence to suggest otherwise, such as the renaming of Turkish Cypriots as 'Cyprus Turks' by Bayrak, the 'state' broadcaster. This being so, individual Cypriot refugees are fully justified in seeking recourse through the EU courts, to secure the same rights afforded to any other EU citizen. Freedom loving EU governments that respect international law and human rights should not be discouraging them from doing so;

• While the British government contends that it may not be in the interests of either 'community' to let external events deflect from the negotiation process, individual citizens – deprived of their homes and their human rights for many decades – have every right to take a different view. Nowhere enough has been done by the international community to secure those rights. This includes the British government, which had and continues to have clear legal responsibilities to guarantee the territorial integrity of Cyprus. Individual Cypriot refugees who have, with good reason, lost all faith in the political process should not be discouraged, particularly by the British government, in pursuing justice in whichever way they can;

• While there appears to be a unique opportunity for a political settlement on the island it can only work and will only be acceptable to the majority of Cypriots if it is fully in accordance with EU laws and democratic principles. Unfortunately, such a settlement, by Cypriots and for Cypriots, is unlikely ever to be acceptable to Turkey's military, or the settlers it has imported to the island (now outnumbering indigenous Cypriots by 2 to 1 in the north); settlers who have been given the right by Turkey's subordinate regime to vote on any such settlement plan. This is why individual Cypriot refugees feel they have no option but to pursue justice through the only means available to them, the EU courts. And if the British government was true to EU principles and to its legal obligations to Cyprus and its people, it would not be discouraging them.


I advise you to email the letter you have received, together with any response you plan to send, to the National Federation of Cypriots in the UK, [email protected]
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:30 pm

The Cypriot wrote:yiannis

Here are some points worth considering...

• While private legal proceedings may not, in the British government's opinion, be a substitute for a negotiated solution, this has not transpired in over 35 years since the tragic events of 1974. Unfortunately, there is no indication that Turkey – and certainly its military which currently controls the northern part of Cyprus – is prepared finally to adhere to EU and international law, enabling a solution by and for Cypriots. Indeed there is much evidence to suggest otherwise, such as the renaming of Turkish Cypriots as 'Cyprus Turks' by Bayrak, the 'state' broadcaster. This being so, individual Cypriot refugees are fully justified in seeking recourse through the EU courts, to secure the same rights afforded to any other EU citizen. Freedom loving EU governments that respect international law and human rights should not be discouraging them from doing so;

• While the British government contends that it may not be in the interests of either 'community' to let external events deflect from the negotiation process, individual citizens – deprived of their homes and their human rights for many decades – have every right to take a different view. Nowhere enough has been done by the international community to secure those rights. This includes the British government, which had and continues to have clear legal responsibilities to guarantee the territorial integrity of Cyprus. Individual Cypriot refugees who have, with good reason, lost all faith in the political process should not be discouraged, particularly by the British government, in pursuing justice in whichever way they can;

• While there appears to be a unique opportunity for a political settlement on the island it can only work and will only be acceptable to the majority of Cypriots if it is fully in accordance with EU laws and democratic principles. Unfortunately, such a settlement, by Cypriots and for Cypriots, is unlikely ever to be acceptable to Turkey's military, or the settlers it has imported to the island (now outnumbering indigenous Cypriots by 2 to 1 in the north); settlers who have been given the right by Turkey's subordinate regime to vote on any such settlement plan. This is why individual Cypriot refugees feel they have no option but to pursue justice through the only means available to them, the EU courts. And if the British government was true to EU principles and to its legal obligations to Cyprus and its people, it would not be discouraging them.


I advise you to email the letter you have received, together with any response you plan to send, to the National Federation of Cypriots in the UK, [email protected]


Where did you get this?
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:42 pm

I'm not sure I understand your question. Where do you get your viewpoint?
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:57 pm

The Cypriot wrote:I'm not sure I understand your question. Where do you get your viewpoint?


Where did you copy paste that from?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:24 pm

The Cypriot wrote:I'm not sure I understand your question. Where do you get your viewpoint?

VP is a lover of fortune cookies... 8)
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