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[halil]

halil,
can i ask when this info was made available as there is a lot of talk right now, that the talks are over, in light of the recent ruling?
i read last week that the turkish gov is still in favor of the talks and mr talat.

Rose ,
talks are not over .Next meeting will be on 5th May .

Downer briefed the United Nations Security Council about Cyprus talks and they are discussing in newyork what will be the next steps for UN's.

After those talks above statement came out from UN. and the writings are from UN web page at moment is above one .soon we will have rest of the security council report.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?N ... yprus&Cr1=
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/sc9648.doc.htm

And here is the news how Bayrak TV said .

TWO SIDES ARE CALLED ON TO ACCELERATE MOMENTUM AT CYPRUS PEACE TALKS
The UN Secretary-General’s Special Adviser on Cyprus Alexander Downer and Taye-Brooke Zerihoun briefed the United Nations Security Council yesterday on the ongoing Cyprus negotiations process.

Upon being briefed the Security Council called on the two leaders in Cyprus to accelerate momentum gained in United Nations-backed talks aimed at reunifying the Mediterranean island.
In a presidential statement read out by Ambassador Claude Heller of Mexico, which holds the rotating Council presidency for April, the 15-member body also welcomed progress made so far between Greek Cypriot leader Dimitris Christofias and Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat.

The two leaders have met 26 times since full-fledged power-sharing negotiations began in September, focusing on concerns involving the harmonization of Federal and Constituent State laws, delicate property issues and European Union membership.

In a press briefing after the UN Security Council meeting, the Secretary-General’s Special Adviser on Cyprus Alexander Downer said that the “grand vision” to bring the divided nation back together remains complicated but we are hopeful that it will happen.”

“There shouldn’t be any expectation that it’s a simple matter to solve, otherwise it would have been solved long ago,” Alexander Downer told the press.

“It is fair to say, as I’ve said throughout the process, that I’m cautiously optimistic, but I don’t underestimate the difficulties and challenges that are faced,” stressed Mr. Downer.

`In May 2008, the two leaders committed themselves to working towards a bicommunal, bizonal federation with political equality, as defined by relevant Security Council resolutions`.

`The partnership will comprise a Federal Government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot Constituent State and a Greek Cypriot Constituent State, which will be of equal status`.
“It is important that all parties in Cyprus, north and south, do support these negotiations, because the alternative is a dark future,” Mr. Downer warned.

Mr Downer also warned of failure at peace talks if the solution process lingers unnecessarily.

`This process will not be lasting forever` he stressed.
This stance in a way confirms the Turkish Cypriot side’s insistence on the setting up of a time-table.

`It is well known that the international community is in support of a solution to the Cyprus problem. The two leaders of Cyprus remain committed to the negotiations process and I believe they will reach a settlement by making use of this unique opportunity` Downer said.
Answering a question on Turkey’s stance on the Cyprus issue, Mr Downer said there is no doubt at all over Turkey’s backup for a political settlement in Cyprus.

Upon being asked about the need for setting up a time-table for negotiations, he stressed the need for gaining further momentum at talks.

When Mr Downer was told by a journalist that the UBP did not in fact want the maintenance of negotiations, the UN Special Advisor responded by saying that the UBP has not made such a statement and it expressed its support to the negotiations instead.

On the Orams case, Downer stated that the judgment of the European Court of Justice has proven how significant it is to provide a solution to the Cyprus problem.

[bill cobbett]

OF COURSE HE IS BILL,he is quoting the t/c holy grail the annan plan.ive never heard a un sc res.stating turkish and greek cypriot cont. states.have you?

I think the Propagandists Halil and VP have jumped on an error by a hack at this UN journal,

This is the relevant section from the UN's Security Council

(from http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr1251.htm )

RESOLUTION 1251 (1999)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 25 June 1999

11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;

(Oh dear I seem to have answered VP's question for him.)

In any event pheck off UN! The tide has changed and it's a EUROPEAN TIDE that will wash away the nonsenses of some of our northern friends.

[halil]

OF COURSE HE IS BILL,he is quoting the t/c holy grail the annan plan.ive never heard a un sc res.stating turkish and greek cypriot cont. states.have you?

I think the Propagandists Halil and VP have jumped on an error by a hack at this UN journal,

This is the relevant section from the UN's Security Council

(from http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr1251.htm )

RESOLUTION 1251 (1999)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 25 June 1999

11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;

(Oh dear I seem to have answered VP's question for him.)

In any event pheck off UN! The tide has changed and it's a EUROPEAN TIDE that will wash away the nonsenses of some of our northern friends.

have a go

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/sc9648.doc.htm

[boulio]

In May 2008, the leaders of the two communities in Cyprus, Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias and Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, committed themselves to working towards “a bicommunal, bizonal federation with political equality, as defined by relevant Security Council resolutions”. The partnership will comprise a Federal Government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot Constituent State and a Greek Cypriot Constituent State, which will be of equal status.

bi zonal bi communal federation fine according to sc res.were in the res does it say turkish ang greek states.i now this has been a tough week guys,but can or cant you provide the neccassary res.

[Oracle]

Whenever the Turks feel threatened that the EU is exposing them for the Genocidal, thieving Human Rights' violators they are ... they run for cover to the UN.

This week has been yet another of those EU-inspired moments

however even there they run to the UN,however UN RES.specificallty calls on the removal of all turkish troops in access of the 1960 agreements AS well as the return of varosia.so even there the turks respect nothing.

Fine boulio ... the UN should call on restoring matters to pre-invasion status.

But who ordained them as solution-seekers on our behalf?

We are part of the bigger picture now ... the EU ... we do not need the UN to speak for us to the Turks.

We need the EU to speak with us!

[halil]

From UN daily News date 30 April 2009

http://www.un.org/news/dh/pdf/english/2009/30042009.pdf

page 3 is about Cyprus .

[bill cobbett]

OF COURSE HE IS BILL,he is quoting the t/c holy grail the annan plan.ive never heard a un sc res.stating turkish and greek cypriot cont. states.have you?

I think the Propagandists Halil and VP have jumped on an error by a hack at this UN journal,

This is the relevant section from the UN's Security Council

(from http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr1251.htm )

RESOLUTION 1251 (1999)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 25 June 1999

11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;

(Oh dear I seem to have answered VP's question for him.)

In any event pheck off UN! The tide has changed and it's a EUROPEAN TIDE that will wash away the nonsenses of some of our northern friends.

have a go

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/sc9648.doc.htm

Halil, you are so sad. Has something upset you this week that your judgement is clouded.

Why are you repeating an incorrect report on the UN Resolution when I have posted the original to correct your propaganda?

Again, here is the bona-fide, definitive original ......

RESOLUTION 1251 (1999)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 25 June 1999

11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr1251.htm

I can't understand how you can argue with this.

[boulio]

thanks bill,

if the un is publishing articles under their banner with false information then i believe they should be made aware of it.no one to ny understatnding every agreed to turkish and greek states in cyprus.

[halil]

OF COURSE HE IS BILL,he is quoting the t/c holy grail the annan plan.ive never heard a un sc res.stating turkish and greek cypriot cont. states.have you?

I think the Propagandists Halil and VP have jumped on an error by a hack at this UN journal,

This is the relevant section from the UN's Security Council

(from http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr1251.htm )

RESOLUTION 1251 (1999)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 25 June 1999

11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;

(Oh dear I seem to have answered VP's question for him.)

In any event pheck off UN! The tide has changed and it's a EUROPEAN TIDE that will wash away the nonsenses of some of our northern friends.

have a go

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/sc9648.doc.htm

Halil, you are so sad. Has something upset you this week that your judgement is clouded.

Why are you repeating an incorrect report on the UN Resolution when I have posted the original to correct your propaganda?

Again, here is the bona-fide, definitive original ......

RESOLUTION 1251 (1999)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 25 June 1999

11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr1251.htm

I can't understand how you can argue with this.

I am not upset dear ..... I am just reporting what news was saying about yesterday meetings . U are the one who is getting excited .... just to remind u both sides leaders are declear above sayings front of the whole world .... must be in may 23 of last year .

yes here it is agreement was like below one .

23 May Agreement
The Leaders today had genuine and fruitful discussions, and reviewed the results achieved pursuant to the 21
March agreement.
They reaffirmed their commitment to a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation with political equality, as defined by relevant Security Council resolutions. This partnership will have a Federal Government with a single international personality, as well as a Turkish Cypriot Constituent State and a Greek Cypriot Constituent State, which will be of equal status.
They instructed their Representatives to examine, within 15 days, the results of the technical committees.
The Representatives will consider civilian and military confidence-building measures. They will also pursue the opening of Limnitis/Yeşilırmak and other crossing points.
The Leaders decided to come together again in the second half of June to make a new assessment.


i think latest report is relating above agreement .... what they says Cypriots will agree .... here it is what they were agreed in may 2008 .

[Viewpoint]

That is just a worthless article. Not a UN Resolution. There will be no partnership unless we agree to it. And we will not. We are the 82% majority and the Turks are the 18% minority. Accept this or the war you started against us will continue until you will lose it.

then forget a solution and keep looking at beşparmak.