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[YFred]

Since those TCs alienated all their properties to Evkaf; they r still under posession of Evkaf. All estates of Evkaf have been legitimate since the begining of the Ottoman rule.

Evkaf!!!!! ......

Got an ECJ ruling on that please Insan.

Oh and please post the kochans to prove it.....

All the TC kotchans are rolled up in a cylindrical shape ready for what they are intended for.

[insan]

By the time of the first British census of the island in 1881, Greek Cypriots numbered 140,000 and Turkish Cypriots 42,638. One reason suggested for the small number of Turkish Cypriots was that many of them sold their property and migrated to mainland Turkey when the island was placed under British administration according to the Cyprus Convention of 1878.

If anything it confirms the previous tables AND verifies that some Turkish Cypriots SOLD their land and left.

Start READING CAREFULLY before you quote or risk making a Womble of yourself!

Under the then TC civil order they couldn't sell their properties. They only could alienate all their properties back to possession of Evkaf. Go read abt the then civil order of TCs and role of Evkaf and then come back here.

[Get Real!]

All the TC kotchans are rolled up in a cylindrical shape ready for what they are intended for.

I don't recommend you put that up your bum Y-Fronts...

[Get Real!]

By the time of the first British census of the island in 1881, Greek Cypriots numbered 140,000 and Turkish Cypriots 42,638. One reason suggested for the small number of Turkish Cypriots was that many of them sold their property and migrated to mainland Turkey when the island was placed under British administration according to the Cyprus Convention of 1878.

If anything it confirms the previous tables AND verifies that some Turkish Cypriots SOLD their land and left.

Start READING CAREFULLY before you quote or risk making a Womble of yourself!

Under the then TC civil order they couldn't sell their properties. They only could alienate all their properties back to possession of Evkaf. Go read abt the then civil order of TCs and role of Evkaf and then come back here.

Fuck your "civil order", fuck your "evkaf", and fuck Ayse!

You've been wasted...

[insan]

By the time of the first British census of the island in 1881, Greek Cypriots numbered 140,000 and Turkish Cypriots 42,638. One reason suggested for the small number of Turkish Cypriots was that many of them sold their property and migrated to mainland Turkey when the island was placed under British administration according to the Cyprus Convention of 1878.

If anything it confirms the previous tables AND verifies that some Turkish Cypriots SOLD their land and left.

Start READING CAREFULLY before you quote or risk making a Womble of yourself!

Under the then TC civil order they couldn't sell their properties. They only could alienate all their properties back to possession of Evkaf. Go read abt the then civil order of TCs and role of Evkaf and then come back here.

Fuck your "civil order", fuck your "evkaf", and fuck Ayse!

You've been wasted...

A typical lamer! GÖT REAL!

[YFred]

All the TC kotchans are rolled up in a cylindrical shape ready for what they are intended for.

I don't recommend you put that up your bum Y-Fronts...

You guessed the purpose all right, but a very poor attempt at guessing whose bum! I thought we agreed it was the Hellenes that went into that sort of thing. What’s going on have you switched again, you turn coat

[Get Real!]

Fuck your "civil order", fuck your "evkaf", and fuck Ayse!

You've been wasted...

A typical lamer! GÖT REAL!

* R O A D K I L L *

I take no prisoners Insan...

[Kifeas]

Does anyone know, it was not plucked out of the sky.....this figue is nearly always quoted and the GC leaders do not object. It has alway intrigued me to find out and meeting a friend who took part I asked and he explained the formula, the deciding factor was the state land which was the key, the 50% being allowed for the return of GCs wanting to reside in the TC state.

There isn't a logic VP, other than that based on the idea that the TC State should roughly correspond to the TC population (18%-20%) plus an extra allowance to accommodate the increase of this (TC) population due to the return of GC refugees and others into that area and which would have been allowed to become as many as up to 1/3 of the total "TC" State's population. Therefore, if 19% equals to 2/3 (66%,) then 1/3 (33%) equals 9.5%. Consequently: 19% + 9.5% = 28.5%

So where the hell 10% of property and land has lost that belonged to 10% of TCs who emigrated between the years 1878-1960? All international sources prove that TCs constituted 1/3 of population in the begining of Brit Rule.

Insan, before 1571, the amount of Turkish land and Turkish population in Cyprus was 0%!

So? I'm talking abt those TCs who emigrated and alienated all their lands and properties to Evkaf that was recognized by 60s treaties..

Insan, those people took their land back with them to Turkey, when they emigrated from Cyprus; just like they brought it with them from Turkey, when the Ottomans conquered Cyprus in 1571.

Since those TCs alienated all their properties to Evkaf; they r still under posession of Evkaf. All estates of Evkaf have been legitimate since the begining of the Ottoman rule.

Insan, before 1571, there was 0% of Turkish population in Cyprus, but also 0% of Turkish land in Cyprus. Correct? Correct!

Now, if after 1571, up to 30% Turkish population came in Cyprus, that also had up to 30% Turkish land in Cyprus; it means that these Turkish people that came to Cyprus after 1571, they also brought together with them their own land from Turkey. Correct? Correct!

Now, if after the British took over in 1871, the Turkish population was gradually reduced down to 18%, but also Turkish land was reduced down to 18%; isn't it logical that those Turkish people that left Cyprus back to Turkey, took with them also the land they brought when they came here in the first place, i.e. after 1571?

I mean, why can you not be able to follow this very simple logical explanation?

[insan]

Does anyone know, it was not plucked out of the sky.....this figue is nearly always quoted and the GC leaders do not object. It has alway intrigued me to find out and meeting a friend who took part I asked and he explained the formula, the deciding factor was the state land which was the key, the 50% being allowed for the return of GCs wanting to reside in the TC state.

There isn't a logic VP, other than that based on the idea that the TC State should roughly correspond to the TC population (18%-20%) plus an extra allowance to accommodate the increase of this (TC) population due to the return of GC refugees and others into that area and which would have been allowed to become as many as up to 1/3 of the total "TC" State's population. Therefore, if 19% equals to 2/3 (66%,) then 1/3 (33%) equals 9.5%. Consequently: 19% + 9.5% = 28.5%

So where the hell 10% of property and land has lost that belonged to 10% of TCs who emigrated between the years 1878-1960? All international sources prove that TCs constituted 1/3 of population in the begining of Brit Rule.

Insan, before 1571, the amount of Turkish land and Turkish population in Cyprus was 0%!

So? I'm talking abt those TCs who emigrated and alienated all their lands and properties to Evkaf that was recognized by 60s treaties..

Insan, those people took their land back with them to Turkey, when they emigrated from Cyprus; just like they brought it with them from Turkey, when the Ottomans conquered Cyprus in 1571.

Since those TCs alienated all their properties to Evkaf; they r still under posession of Evkaf. All estates of Evkaf have been legitimate since the begining of the Ottoman rule.

Insan, if before 1571 there was 0% of Turkish population in Cyprus, then there was also 0% of Turkish land in Cyprus. Correct?

Now, if after 1571 there were up to 30% Turkish population, and also up to 30% of Turkish land in Cyprus; it means that these Turkish people that came to Cyprus after 1571, isn't it simple logic that they also brought together with them their land from Turkey. Correct?

Now, if after the British took over in 1871, the Turkish population was gradually reduced down to 18%, but also Turkish land was reduced down to 18%; isn't it logical that those Turkish people that left Cyprus back to Turkey, took with them also the land they brought when they came here in the first place, i.e. after 1571?

I mean, why can you not be able to follow this very simple logical explanation?

The fact is that TC migrants who emigrated from 1878 until 1960 alienated all their lands and properties to EVKAF. EVKAV is a legitimate institution that not only existed under Ottoman rule but recognized by British rule and RoC... EVKAF still exists and what belongs to EVKAF still belongs to EVKAF. Is that too hard for u to understand, Kifeas. Land and properties of people does not disappear by emigration of people.

[bill cobbett]

Evgaff? Some of you boys are "evinalarf" . I know I am....