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[insan]

So where the hell 10% of property and land has lost that belonged to 10% of TCs who emigrated between the years 1878-1960? All international sources prove that TCs constituted 1/3 of population in the begining of Brit Rule.

Start making an idiot of yourself again with BIG statements and I’ll be more than happy to let you have it…

From the Library of Congress:

Table 5. Population of Cyprus, Selected Years, 1491-1973

1881 186,200


Table 7. Turkish Cypriot Population, Selected Dates, Sixteenth Century to 1988

1881 45,458


Now calculate... 186,200 – 45,458 = 140, 742 non Turkish Cypriots!


http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

Now go back to sleep!

By the time of the first British census of the island in 1881, Greek Cypriots numbered 140,000 and Turkish Cypriots 42,638. One reason suggested for the small number of Turkish Cypriots was that many of them sold their property and migrated to mainland Turkey when the island was placed under British administration according to the Cyprus Convention of 1878.
There was a significant Turkish Cypriot exodus from the island between 1950 and 1974 when thousands left the island, mainly for Britain and Australia. The migration had two phases. The first lasted from 1950 to 1960, when Turkish Cypriots benefited from liberal British immigration policies as the island gained its independence, and many Turkish Cypriots settled in London. Emigration would have been higher in this period, had there not been pressure from the Turkish Cypriot leadership to remain in Cyprus and participate in building the new republic.

The second and more intense phase of Turkish Cypriot emigration began after intercommunal strife increased in late 1963. Living conditions for Turkish Cypriots worsened as about 25,000 of them, faced with Greek Cypriot violence, gathered in several enclaves around the island. In addition, all Turkish Cypriots working for the government of the Republic of Cyprus lost their civil service positions. Aid from Turkey allowed those in the enclaves to survive, but life at a subsistence level and the constant threat of violence caused numerous Turkish Cypriots to leave for a better life abroad. As before, most emigrants left for Australia and Britain, but some settled in Turkey. By 1972 the Turkish Cypriot population had declined to around 78,000, and prospects for the community's survival on the island looked bleak.

http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-3504.html

From ur most reliable sources, fool. Noe it's bed time for u.

[polis]

Does anyone know, it was not plucked out of the sky.....this figue is nearly always quoted and the GC leaders do not object. It has alway intrigued me to find out and meeting a friend who took part I asked and he explained the formula, the deciding factor was the state land which was the key, the 50% being allowed for the return of GCs wanting to reside in the TC state.

There isn't a logic VP, other than that based on the idea that the TC State should roughly correspond to the TC population (18%-20%) plus an extra allowance to accommodate the increase of this (TC) population due to the return of GC refugees and others into that area and which would have been allowed to become as many as up to 1/3 of the total "TC" State's population. Therefore, if 19% equals to 2/3 (66%,) then 1/3 (33%) equals 9.5%. Consequently: 19% + 9.5% = 28.5%

So where the hell 10% of property and land has lost that belonged to 10% of TCs who emigrated between the years 1878-1960? All international sources prove that TCs constituted 1/3 of population in the begining of Brit Rule.

Actually the most often quoted figure is the one from the 1881 census by which Greek Cypriots allegedly numbered 140000 and Turkish Cypriots 42638 (77%-23%).

[bill cobbett]

Amongst other things, the events of this week have reaffirmed that any equation is a pollocks calculation.

One of the Realities on the Real Ground is that Legal property owners, as per the Legal Kochans, have free use of their property to do with it as they wish.

Can they come over and throw out the current occupants?

Respect for ownership (leaving aside double-dipping of course) works both ways as an increasing number of our northern friends who have reclaimed their lands in the Free Areas have shown us.

Let me try again will this ruling allow GCs to come to the TRNC and throw current occupants out and live in the north???

Yes your're very trying Vp. Where the feck is the tnct?

Do you fear that I'm a few steps closer to a Free Kyrenia this week?




(thanks z4)

Do any of you ever answer the questions asked, you al appear to be jokers, obviously you are chocking on this, after this ruling regarding the Orams can GCs march into the TRNC throw the current occupants out and reclaim the property?

Ill answer for you as it apears your are incapable of a straight answer...NO.

So whats changed?

Why are you avoiding answering my question vp?.......

Do you fear that I'm a few steps closer to a Free Kyrenia this week?

[Viewpoint]

Amongst other things, the events of this week have reaffirmed that any equation is a pollocks calculation.

One of the Realities on the Real Ground is that Legal property owners, as per the Legal Kochans, have free use of their property to do with it as they wish.

Can they come over and throw out the current occupants?

Respect for ownership (leaving aside double-dipping of course) works both ways as an increasing number of our northern friends who have reclaimed their lands in the Free Areas have shown us.

Let me try again will this ruling allow GCs to come to the TRNC and throw current occupants out and live in the north???

Yes your're very trying Vp. Where the feck is the tnct?

Do you fear that I'm a few steps closer to a Free Kyrenia this week?




(thanks z4)

Do any of you ever answer the questions asked, you al appear to be jokers, obviously you are chocking on this, after this ruling regarding the Orams can GCs march into the TRNC throw the current occupants out and reclaim the property?

Ill answer for you as it apears your are incapable of a straight answer...NO.

So whats changed?

Why are you avoiding answering my question vp?.......

Do you fear that I'm a few steps closer to a Free Kyrenia this week?

NO now your turn.

[Get Real!]

By the time of the first British census of the island in 1881, Greek Cypriots numbered 140,000 and Turkish Cypriots 42,638. One reason suggested for the small number of Turkish Cypriots was that many of them sold their property and migrated to mainland Turkey when the island was placed under British administration according to the Cyprus Convention of 1878.

If anything it confirms the previous tables AND verifies that some Turkish Cypriots SOLD their land and left.

Start READING CAREFULLY before you quote or risk making a Womble of yourself!

[YFred]

So, when are we having the house warming party Bill?

[bill cobbett]

Amongst other things, the events of this week have reaffirmed that any equation is a pollocks calculation.

One of the Realities on the Real Ground is that Legal property owners, as per the Legal Kochans, have free use of their property to do with it as they wish.

Can they come over and throw out the current occupants?

Respect for ownership (leaving aside double-dipping of course) works both ways as an increasing number of our northern friends who have reclaimed their lands in the Free Areas have shown us.

Let me try again will this ruling allow GCs to come to the TRNC and throw current occupants out and live in the north???

Yes your're very trying Vp. Where the feck is the tnct?

Do you fear that I'm a few steps closer to a Free Kyrenia this week?




(thanks z4)

Do any of you ever answer the questions asked, you al appear to be jokers, obviously you are chocking on this, after this ruling regarding the Orams can GCs march into the TRNC throw the current occupants out and reclaim the property?

Ill answer for you as it apears your are incapable of a straight answer...NO.

So whats changed?

Why are you avoiding answering my question vp?.......

Do you fear that I'm a few steps closer to a Free Kyrenia this week?

NO now your turn.

We're going to have to rename you VPinnochio ....

To answer your question - NO - cos some of us don't go around violently throwing people out in to the streets. We prefer the Courts to judge who is right and who is in the wrong and the Scamming Land Thieves in the Occupied North certainly got a beating this week didn't they????

[insan]

Does anyone know, it was not plucked out of the sky.....this figue is nearly always quoted and the GC leaders do not object. It has alway intrigued me to find out and meeting a friend who took part I asked and he explained the formula, the deciding factor was the state land which was the key, the 50% being allowed for the return of GCs wanting to reside in the TC state.

There isn't a logic VP, other than that based on the idea that the TC State should roughly correspond to the TC population (18%-20%) plus an extra allowance to accommodate the increase of this (TC) population due to the return of GC refugees and others into that area and which would have been allowed to become as many as up to 1/3 of the total "TC" State's population. Therefore, if 19% equals to 2/3 (66%,) then 1/3 (33%) equals 9.5%. Consequently: 19% + 9.5% = 28.5%

So where the hell 10% of property and land has lost that belonged to 10% of TCs who emigrated between the years 1878-1960? All international sources prove that TCs constituted 1/3 of population in the begining of Brit Rule.

Insan, before 1571, the amount of Turkish land and Turkish population in Cyprus was 0%!

So? I'm talking abt those TCs who emigrated and alienated all their lands and properties to Evkaf that was recognized by 60s treaties..

Insan, those people took their land back with them to Turkey, when they emigrated from Cyprus; just like they brought it with them from Turkey, when the Ottomans conquered Cyprus in 1571.

Since those TCs alienated all their properties to Evkaf; they r still under posession of Evkaf. All estates of Evkaf have been legitimate since the begining of the Ottoman rule.

[bill cobbett]

Since those TCs alienated all their properties to Evkaf; they r still under posession of Evkaf. All estates of Evkaf have been legitimate since the begining of the Ottoman rule.

Evkaf!!!!! ......

Got an ECJ ruling on that please Insan.

Oh and please post the kochans to prove it.....

[Get Real!]

Since those TCs alienated all their properties to Evkaf; they r still under posession of Evkaf. All estates of Evkaf have been legitimate since the begining of the Ottoman rule.

But you forgot to mention the END of the Ottoman rule!

Treaty of Lausanne (24 July 1923)

ARTICLE 20 and ARTICLE 21 put the Ottoman Empire to sleep where it belonged…

http://www.mfa.gr/NR/rdonlyres/3E053BC1 ... treaty.doc


You just LOVE making a COMPLETE DORK of yourself don't you?