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[insan]

Does anyone know, it was not plucked out of the sky.....this figue is nearly always quoted and the GC leaders do not object. It has alway intrigued me to find out and meeting a friend who took part I asked and he explained the formula, the deciding factor was the state land which was the key, the 50% being allowed for the return of GCs wanting to reside in the TC state.

There isn't a logic VP, other than that based on the idea that the TC State should roughly correspond to the TC population (18%-20%) plus an extra allowance to accommodate the increase of this (TC) population due to the return of GC refugees and others into that area and which would have been allowed to become as many as up to 1/3 of the total "TC" State's population. Therefore, if 19% equals to 2/3 (66%,) then 1/3 (33%) equals 9.5%. Consequently: 19% + 9.5% = 28.5%

So where the hell 10% of property and land has lost that belonged to 10% of TCs who emigrated between the years 1878-1960? All international sources prove that TCs constituted 1/3 of population in the begining of Brit Rule.

Insan, before 1571, the amount of Turkish land and Turkish population in Cyprus was 0%!

So? I'm talking abt those TCs who emigrated and alienated all their lands and properties to Evkaf that was recognized by 60s treaties..

[bill cobbett]

Amongst other things, the events of this week have reaffirmed that any equation is a pollocks calculation.

One of the Realities on the Real Ground is that Legal property owners, as per the Legal Kochans, have free use of their property to do with it as they wish.

Can they come over and throw out the current occupants?

Respect for ownership (leaving aside double-dipping of course) works both ways as an increasing number of our northern friends who have reclaimed their lands in the Free Areas have shown us.

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Amongst other things, the events of this week have reaffirmed that any equation is a pollocks calculation.

One of the Realities on the Real Ground is that Legal property owners, as per the Legal Kochans, have free use of their property to do with it as they wish.

Can they come over and throw out the current occupants?

Respect for ownership (leaving aside double-dipping of course) works both ways as an increasing number of our northern friends who have reclaimed their lands in the Free Areas have shown us.

Let me try again will this ruling allow GCs to come to the TRNC and throw current occupants out and live in the north???

[Get Real!]

So where the hell 10% of property and land has lost that belonged to 10% of TCs who emigrated between the years 1878-1960? All international sources prove that TCs constituted 1/3 of population in the begining of Brit Rule.

Start making an idiot of yourself again with BIG statements and I’ll be more than happy to let you have it…

From the Library of Congress:

Table 5. Population of Cyprus, Selected Years, 1491-1973

1881 186,200


Table 7. Turkish Cypriot Population, Selected Dates, Sixteenth Century to 1988

1881 45,458


Now calculate... 186,200 – 45,458 = 140, 742 non Turkish Cypriots!


http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

Now go back to sleep!

[Kifeas]

Does anyone know, it was not plucked out of the sky.....this figue is nearly always quoted and the GC leaders do not object. It has alway intrigued me to find out and meeting a friend who took part I asked and he explained the formula, the deciding factor was the state land which was the key, the 50% being allowed for the return of GCs wanting to reside in the TC state.

There isn't a logic VP, other than that based on the idea that the TC State should roughly correspond to the TC population (18%-20%) plus an extra allowance to accommodate the increase of this (TC) population due to the return of GC refugees and others into that area and which would have been allowed to become as many as up to 1/3 of the total "TC" State's population. Therefore, if 19% equals to 2/3 (66%,) then 1/3 (33%) equals 9.5%. Consequently: 19% + 9.5% = 28.5%

So where the hell 10% of property and land has lost that belonged to 10% of TCs who emigrated between the years 1878-1960? All international sources prove that TCs constituted 1/3 of population in the begining of Brit Rule.

Insan, before 1571, the amount of Turkish land and Turkish population in Cyprus was 0%!

So? I'm talking abt those TCs who emigrated and alienated all their lands and properties to Evkaf that was recognized by 60s treaties..

Insan, those people took their land back with them to Turkey, when they emigrated from Cyprus; just like they brought it with them from Turkey, when the Ottomans conquered Cyprus in 1571.

[bill cobbett]

So where the hell 10% of property and land has lost that belonged to 10% of TCs who emigrated between the years 1878-1960? All international sources prove that TCs constituted 1/3 of population in the begining of Brit Rule.

Start making an idiot of yourself again with BIG statements and I’ll be more than happy to let you have it…

From the Library of Congress:

Table 5. Population of Cyprus, Selected Years, 1491-1973

1881 186,200


Table 7. Turkish Cypriot Population, Selected Dates, Sixteenth Century to 1988

1881 45,458


Now calculate... 186,200 – 45,458 = 140, 742 non Turkish Cypriots!


http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

Now go back to sleep!

Yeah, go back to sheep.

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TC Population
Sixteenth century 40,000 to 60,000
Eighteenth century 60,000
1881 45,458
1911 56,428
1921 61,339
1931 64,245
1946 80,548
1960 104,333
1963 120,000
1972 78,000
1978 146,740
1982 152,239
1986 162,676
1988 167,256

Note the 35% drop in TC Population from 1963 to 1972.

[bill cobbett]

Amongst other things, the events of this week have reaffirmed that any equation is a pollocks calculation.

One of the Realities on the Real Ground is that Legal property owners, as per the Legal Kochans, have free use of their property to do with it as they wish.

Can they come over and throw out the current occupants?

Respect for ownership (leaving aside double-dipping of course) works both ways as an increasing number of our northern friends who have reclaimed their lands in the Free Areas have shown us.

Let me try again will this ruling allow GCs to come to the TRNC and throw current occupants out and live in the north???

Yes your're very trying Vp. Where the feck is the tnct?

Do you fear that I'm a few steps closer to a Free Kyrenia this week?




(thanks z4)

[bill cobbett]

TC Population
Sixteenth century 40,000 to 60,000
Eighteenth century 60,000
1881 45,458
1911 56,428
1921 61,339
1931 64,245
1946 80,548
1960 104,333
1963 120,000
1972 78,000
1978 146,740
1982 152,239
1986 162,676
1988 167,256

Note the 35% drop in TC Population from 1963 to 1972.

Can you give us the figures from 1974 to date please VP?

[Viewpoint]

Amongst other things, the events of this week have reaffirmed that any equation is a pollocks calculation.

One of the Realities on the Real Ground is that Legal property owners, as per the Legal Kochans, have free use of their property to do with it as they wish.

Can they come over and throw out the current occupants?

Respect for ownership (leaving aside double-dipping of course) works both ways as an increasing number of our northern friends who have reclaimed their lands in the Free Areas have shown us.

Let me try again will this ruling allow GCs to come to the TRNC and throw current occupants out and live in the north???

Yes your're very trying Vp. Where the feck is the tnct?

Do you fear that I'm a few steps closer to a Free Kyrenia this week?




(thanks z4)

Do any of you ever answer the questions asked, you al appear to be jokers, obviously you are chocking on this, after this ruling regarding the Orams can GCs march into the TRNC throw the current occupants out and reclaim the property?

Ill answer for you as it apears your are incapable of a straight answer...NO.

So whats changed?