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The "Orams" in Karmi take turn

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby insan » Sat May 02, 2009 8:47 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Why dont the GCs process these cases wholesale because they take so long.....


They are civil actions by individuals against individual thieves. Not a class action situation.

In any event best to drip feed them through the Courts, on at a time, for max effect. Wouldn't you agree VP?


Had it been a class action the court verdict would have been the same. Could the court discriminate rights of any refugees? No, ofc. So stop hiding behind that it was a civil action by individuals blah blah. If the occupier of GC land was a TC(refugee or non refugee) the court verdict would have been the same. What's the difference of the "thieves" being Brit makes them more "thieves"? Galimatias. What abt all those GCs(refugees and non refugees) who have been freely cultivating so many goods on TC land, using their touristic establishments, farms without any international restrictions(e.g prohibition of the international trade of the goods cultivated on "stolen" TC land) and insults. Under the defacto situation, international community should treat all concerned parties equally, without discrimination.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat May 02, 2009 9:03 pm

It has to be an individual legal landowner confronting the alleged stealer of his/her land in the way that the Weedons of Canterbury, Kent and Karmi, Kyrenia are now being pursued as reported above, so that the legal landowner can have redress against an individual. It isn't a class action situation where there is a single thief. (all imho)

(The ECJ ruling itself is of course now universal and applies to all similar cases throughout EU)
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Postby YFred » Sat May 02, 2009 10:06 pm

bill cobbett wrote:It has to be an individual legal landowner confronting the alleged stealer of his/her land in the way that the Weedons of Canterbury, Kent and Karmi, Kyrenia are now being pursued as reported above, so that the legal landowner can have redress against an individual. It isn't a class action situation where there is a single thief. (all imho)

(The ECJ ruling itself is of course now universal and applies to all similar cases throughout EU)

So, you will bash a few Brits over the head eventually, do you think that this will help the peace process?
Or do you now believe that there is no need for the peace process, you will get justice in the EU courts?
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat May 02, 2009 10:15 pm

YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:It has to be an individual legal landowner confronting the alleged stealer of his/her land in the way that the Weedons of Canterbury, Kent and Karmi, Kyrenia are now being pursued as reported above, so that the legal landowner can have redress against an individual. It isn't a class action situation where there is a single thief. (all imho)

(The ECJ ruling itself is of course now universal and applies to all similar cases throughout EU)

So, you will bash a few Brits over the head eventually, do you think that this will help the peace process?
Or do you now believe that there is no need for the peace process, you will get justice in the EU courts?


My dear Fredoulla, if someone pinches something from you do you...

A. Get them hauled before the Courts ?

OR

B. Negotiate with the thieving scumbag ?
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Postby YFred » Sat May 02, 2009 10:20 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:It has to be an individual legal landowner confronting the alleged stealer of his/her land in the way that the Weedons of Canterbury, Kent and Karmi, Kyrenia are now being pursued as reported above, so that the legal landowner can have redress against an individual. It isn't a class action situation where there is a single thief. (all imho)

(The ECJ ruling itself is of course now universal and applies to all similar cases throughout EU)

So, you will bash a few Brits over the head eventually, do you think that this will help the peace process?
Or do you now believe that there is no need for the peace process, you will get justice in the EU courts?


My dear Fredoulla, if someone pinches something from you do you...

A. Get them hauled before the Courts ?

OR

B. Negotiate with the thieving scumbag ?

Pardon? why are you shouting billagulla baby?
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Postby insan » Sat May 02, 2009 10:22 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:It has to be an individual legal landowner confronting the alleged stealer of his/her land in the way that the Weedons of Canterbury, Kent and Karmi, Kyrenia are now being pursued as reported above, so that the legal landowner can have redress against an individual. It isn't a class action situation where there is a single thief. (all imho)

(The ECJ ruling itself is of course now universal and applies to all similar cases throughout EU)

So, you will bash a few Brits over the head eventually, do you think that this will help the peace process?
Or do you now believe that there is no need for the peace process, you will get justice in the EU courts?


My dear Fredoulla, if someone pinches something from you do you...

A. Get them hauled before the Courts ?

OR

B. Negotiate with the thieving scumbag ?


Billo,

Plz tell me what's the difference of "thieves" on both sides of the islands that under defacto situation they have been occupying, buying, selling, using(with or without any international restrictions) the "stolen" lands and properties belong to others?
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Postby YFred » Sat May 02, 2009 10:25 pm

insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:It has to be an individual legal landowner confronting the alleged stealer of his/her land in the way that the Weedons of Canterbury, Kent and Karmi, Kyrenia are now being pursued as reported above, so that the legal landowner can have redress against an individual. It isn't a class action situation where there is a single thief. (all imho)

(The ECJ ruling itself is of course now universal and applies to all similar cases throughout EU)

So, you will bash a few Brits over the head eventually, do you think that this will help the peace process?
Or do you now believe that there is no need for the peace process, you will get justice in the EU courts?


My dear Fredoulla, if someone pinches something from you do you...

A. Get them hauled before the Courts ?

OR

B. Negotiate with the thieving scumbag ?


Billo,

Plz tell me what's the difference of "thieves" on both sides of the islands that under defacto situation they have been occupying, buying, selling, using(with or without any international restrictions) the "stolen" lands and properties belong to others?

Insan, you do surprise me. There is one difference. They are legalised thieves on account that they are GC. :wink: :wink:
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Postby insan » Sat May 02, 2009 10:29 pm

YFred wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:It has to be an individual legal landowner confronting the alleged stealer of his/her land in the way that the Weedons of Canterbury, Kent and Karmi, Kyrenia are now being pursued as reported above, so that the legal landowner can have redress against an individual. It isn't a class action situation where there is a single thief. (all imho)

(The ECJ ruling itself is of course now universal and applies to all similar cases throughout EU)

So, you will bash a few Brits over the head eventually, do you think that this will help the peace process?
Or do you now believe that there is no need for the peace process, you will get justice in the EU courts?


My dear Fredoulla, if someone pinches something from you do you...

A. Get them hauled before the Courts ?

OR

B. Negotiate with the thieving scumbag ?


Billo,

Plz tell me what's the difference of "thieves" on both sides of the islands that under defacto situation they have been occupying, buying, selling, using(with or without any international restrictions) the "stolen" lands and properties belong to others?

Insan, you do surprise me. There is one difference. They are legalised thieves on account that they are GC.


This is discrimination and being incapable to prove the unfairness of this discrimination arise from the illiteracy and inability of TC and Turkish leadership; besides TC and Turkish intelligentsia.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat May 02, 2009 10:35 pm

insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:It has to be an individual legal landowner confronting the alleged stealer of his/her land in the way that the Weedons of Canterbury, Kent and Karmi, Kyrenia are now being pursued as reported above, so that the legal landowner can have redress against an individual. It isn't a class action situation where there is a single thief. (all imho)

(The ECJ ruling itself is of course now universal and applies to all similar cases throughout EU)

So, you will bash a few Brits over the head eventually, do you think that this will help the peace process?
Or do you now believe that there is no need for the peace process, you will get justice in the EU courts?


My dear Fredoulla, if someone pinches something from you do you...

A. Get them hauled before the Courts ?

OR

B. Negotiate with the thieving scumbag ?


Billo,

Plz tell me what's the difference of "thieves" on both sides of the islands that under defacto situation they have been occupying, buying, selling, using(with or without any international restrictions) the "stolen" lands and properties belong to others?


My dear Insan,

The view that is expressed by almost everyone here over the years, time and time again, is that there can be no objection to people taking temporary refuge in the property of others. I certainly share this opinion.

...BUT.... the issuing of dodgy, photoshopped kochans and setting up an industry that deals in stolen property as has been the outrageous norm in the Occupied North is attempted theft, as reaffirmed by Europe's "Supreme Court" this week.

I'm surprised that you amongst our northern friends felt the impulse to post what you did.
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Postby Hermes » Sat May 02, 2009 10:52 pm

YFred wrote:Insan, you do surprise me. There is one difference. They are legalised thieves on account that they are GC. :wink: :wink:
So the whole of international law, the UN, the EU, its institutions, laws and judgements which has found the Turkish side guilty on all counts, every time, has somehow got it wrong? Every time. Well, well. That is a terrible losing streak you've been having. Shall we put it down to bad luck?
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