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It is good that some of us who post in the forum are old enough to remember exactly what happened in 1974.

The TCs, under the direction of Dentkash and the TMT, massed in the British bases demanding to be moved to the northern part occupied by Turkey.

There was NO such voluntary act by the GCs. The GCs were violently expelled from the north.

So there is no comparison between Istinjo and Famagusta. In one case a couple of hundred people voluntarily moved from Istinjo to Akrotiri and then to the north, and 40 000 Famagustians were kicked out by force. It is a shame that some so called Cypriots cannot show honesty in this case.

Why didnt they stay put?

[Piratis]

And what was your dream Pirates to gift 100% of our home to the Greeks..which for us meant our death warrant.

We wouldn't give any of our or your homes or properties to anybody. We would all continue to live in Cyprus just like we did during Ottoman and British rule, but this time instead of being the subjects of some foreign empire imposed on us by force we would be equal citizens of a Republic we democratically choose to belong.

You are creating baseless imaginary scenarios about your "death warrant" in order to excuse your violent reaction and your partition aim. Rhodes, which also has a Turkish minority, united with Greece in 1947. Not only your minority there was not killed, but their population has increased by 20% since then. Since the end of the wars between Turkey and Greece and the exchange of population that followed, the number of Turks in Greece is increasing. On the contrary it is the number of Greeks in Turkey which is going down, and they have almost been exterminated by now.

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And what was your dream Pirates to gift 100% of our home to the Greeks..which for us meant our death warrant.

We wouldn't give any of our or your homes or properties to anybody. We would all continue to live in Cyprus just like we did during Ottoman and British rule, but this time instead of being the subjects of some foreign empire imposed on us by force we would be equal citizens of a Republic we democratically choose to belong.

You are creating baseless imaginary scenarios about your "death warrant" in order to excuse your violent reaction and your partition aim. Rhodes, which also has a Turkish minority, united with Greece in 1947. Not only your minority there was not killed, but their population has increased by 20% since then. Since the end of the wars between Turkey and Greece and the exchange of population that followed, the number of Turks in Greece is increasing. On the contrary it is the number of Greeks in Turkey which is going down, and they have almost been exterminated by now.

Home = Cyprus and gifting it to another country was never gonna happen, plus if the "majority democratically" vote for beheading women with more than 2 children are we supposed to accept it? We were never going to accept the risk of being anniahalated becuause you wanted to become Greek as your "majorities democratic" right.

[cymart]

The countryside is lovely and a few of the houses have been repaired and are inhabited by shepherds and farmers who are Greek-Cypriot refugees.But overall,they are very forlorn places and the atmosphere there is sad.Does anyone in the north know where the inhabitants of these four villages:Sarama,Istinjo(strange name-what does it mean!)Zacharia and Melandra went to when they left,or where they are today?
I know most of the T.C's from Polis went to Serhadkoy/ Filia near Morphou and from Androlikou to Canlibel/Myrtou.As for Pano Yialia,I can tell you it is in very good condition and a very desirable location.The old schoolhouse is now a well-known taverna and the former inhabitants are in Syrianokhori,now called Yayla,very aptly and visit quite often,so there is hope yet for reconciliation between Cypriots.

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The countryside is lovely and a few of the houses have been repaired and are inhabited by shepherds and farmers who are Greek-Cypriot refugees.But overall,they are very forlorn places and the atmosphere there is sad.Does anyone in the north know where the inhabitants of these four villages:Sarama,Istinjo(strange name-what does it mean!)Zacharia and Melandra went to when they left,or where they are today?
I know most of the T.C's from Polis went to Serhadkoy/ Filia near Morphou and from Androlikou to Canlibel/Myrtou.As for Pano Yialia,I can tell you it is in very good condition and a very desirable location.The old schoolhouse is now a well-known taverna and the former inhabitants are in Syrianokhori,now called Yayla,very aptly and visit quite often,so there is hope yet for reconciliation between Cypriots.

We are a smaller population ad we looked after nearly all their properties all they did with ours is knock them down or intentionally leave them to deteriorate.

[Piratis]

And what was your dream Pirates to gift 100% of our home to the Greeks..which for us meant our death warrant.

We wouldn't give any of our or your homes or properties to anybody. We would all continue to live in Cyprus just like we did during Ottoman and British rule, but this time instead of being the subjects of some foreign empire imposed on us by force we would be equal citizens of a Republic we democratically choose to belong.

You are creating baseless imaginary scenarios about your "death warrant" in order to excuse your violent reaction and your partition aim. Rhodes, which also has a Turkish minority, united with Greece in 1947. Not only your minority there was not killed, but their population has increased by 20% since then. Since the end of the wars between Turkey and Greece and the exchange of population that followed, the number of Turks in Greece is increasing. On the contrary it is the number of Greeks in Turkey which is going down, and they have almost been exterminated by now.

Home = Cyprus and gifting it to another country was never gonna happen, plus if the "majority democratically" vote for beheading women with more than 2 children are we supposed to accept it? We were never going to accept the risk of being anniahalated becuause you wanted to become Greek as your "majorities democratic" right.

Beheading women is a crime and a violation of human rights. Uniting Cyprus with Greece is simply a legitimate choice, and a human right violation of nobody.

On the contrary, the partition you still support, requires the ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of people from their homes, clearly a crime and a human right violation, for which you have been convicted by international courts many times.

So maybe you would support "beheading women with more than 2 children", just like you support the ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of people. I did not, and I will never support crimes and human rights violations.

[insan]

The countryside is lovely and a few of the houses have been repaired and are inhabited by shepherds and farmers who are Greek-Cypriot refugees.But overall,they are very forlorn places and the atmosphere there is sad.Does anyone in the north know where the inhabitants of these four villages:Sarama,Istinjo(strange name-what does it mean!)Zacharia and Melandra went to when they left,or where they are today?
I know most of the T.C's from Polis went to Serhadkoy/ Filia near Morphou and from Androlikou to Canlibel/Myrtou.As for Pano Yialia,I can tell you it is in very good condition and a very desirable location.The old schoolhouse is now a well-known taverna and the former inhabitants are in Syrianokhori,now called Yayla,very aptly and visit quite often,so there is hope yet for reconciliation between Cypriots.

We are a smaller population ad we looked after nearly all their properties all they did with ours is knock them down or intentionally leave them to deteriorate.

No VP, they look after arable TC land in South very well. They have been freely cultivating many goods on "stolen" TC arable land and then freely selling them to whatever country they wish. No one, including u and all others sued them abt doing this illegally. U, VP; just know how to argue with others, hours and hours just for amusement. All other who have the same mentality like urs just do the same. Just argue but no legal actions against it.

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Piratis

Beheading women is a crime and a violation of human rights. Uniting Cyprus with Greece is simply a legitimate choice, and a human right violation of nobody.

I gave an extreme example to show you that using democracy as one man one vote is not always right and you desire to force me to live in Greece would have meant my departure one way or another.

The state of Texas still has capital punishment, the majority voted for it does that make it right? I would still fight against it if I live there and that why we fought against you.

On the contrary, the partition you still support, requires the ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of people from their homes, clearly a crime and a human right violation, for which you have been convicted by international courts many times.

AGREED being the operative word here, your delay in returning to your homes is your own fault, I msure you can work out the rest. Add these verdicts and resolutions to your file as they mean nothing is the world is not willing to penalize us or take action..they have done their worse their is no more but we are still here and life continues as normal.

So maybe you would support "beheading women with more than 2 children", just like you support the ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of people. I did not, and I will never support crimes and human rights violations.

I support neither but I do support AGREED partition and the right of every refugee to financial compensation or repatriation where possible.

[Sotos]

I do support AGREED partition

What you support is PARTITION. And you don't care if we would agree for it or not! Why can't you be honest for once?

[repulsewarrior]

As one who has recently visited Istinjo in Paphos , as a mark of respect for a great Cypriot , Birkibrisly , I can vouch that the village is indeed in ruins apart from the Mosque -School that still appeared in reasonable order. The rest of the village is in tatters as a result of neglect and disrepair .
It has not been wantonly damaged , the fact the Mosque is still standing is an indication that the village has not suffered from criminal damage but sheer neglect.
The village is situated in a scenic spot and a rather beautiful area of Paphos .
It is a shame that this village , as well as others , have been neglegted by the RoC relevant authorities but I presume that any improvements or repairs can only be carried out if inhabitants are living in the vilage.

In my Cyprus this village could be revived and thrive, just like the village of Komi Kebir, as one of several enclaves. Without ruining the fabric of the societies that surrounds them, enclaves would add diversity to each Community, allowing a demonstration of our repect for Basic Human Rights with, in some cases, the return of communities, while in all cases the Rights of Individuals restored.