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Postby RAFAELLA » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:41 pm

halil wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:Halil, I wonder if you can understand the difference between Famagusta and some old ruined buildings.


I do understand everything .... u better to explain our people about their villages ? what was the aim of it to raze them or ruine the buildings ?

Since you understand everything what's the point of arguing then.
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Postby halil » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:32 pm

DT. wrote:Answer me this Halil....Why are TC's so angry that our properties cannot be sold to foreigners anymore as easy as before?


I am not angry about properties DT . I am always against selling any properties . I said it before .

it is good not to sell till work able solution . otherwise who will come out from this problem . who will be responsible for it .

i was not talking here about selling properties . don't change the subject .

My argument is always damages has been done at both sides . These troubles are all our problem .It is not true just only Greek Cypriots are the losers and Turkish Cypriots are the winners . U keep saying Turkish army destroy everything in north one way it is true .But u never ask this question for yourself .... there was no Turkish army in 1963 . who destroyed those houses in south and north before 1974 .... and after 74 who destroy the Turkish Cypriots houses and properties in South Cyprus ... was it ghost of the Turkish army ?
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Postby halil » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:41 pm

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halil wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:Halil, I wonder if you can understand the difference between Famagusta and some old ruined buildings.


I do understand everything .... u better to explain our people about their villages ? what was the aim of it to raze them or ruine the buildings ?

Since you understand everything what's the point of arguing then.


I do understand at both ways not like u to understand only one side of it :!:

we all talk about Turkish factor of it ... come on and tell us what was the aim of it to destroy the Turkish Cypriots houses in south .

give good resones to Turkish Cypriots that they can say u were right .
at least people are in North says it was a big mistakes to give the kochans to people And those people are kept most of the houses in good shapes and there is no problem that humanbeings can settle down in them how about Turkish Cypriots ones .... tell me what persentage of their houses are in a position that they can come and settle down in their houses .... who will cover their damages :?:
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Postby miltiades » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:50 pm

As one who has recently visited Istinjo in Paphos , as a mark of respect for a great Cypriot , Birkibrisly , I can vouch that the village is indeed in ruins apart from the Mosque -School that still appeared in reasonable order. The rest of the village is in tatters as a result of neglect and disrepair .
It has not been wantonly damaged , the fact the Mosque is still standing is an indication that the village has not suffered from criminal damage but sheer neglect.
The village is situated in a scenic spot and a rather beautiful area of Paphos .
It is a shame that this village , as well as others , have been neglegted by the RoC relevant authorities but I presume that any improvements or repairs can only be carried out if inhabitants are living in the vilage.
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Postby halil » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:13 pm

miltiades wrote:As one who has recently visited Istinjo in Paphos , as a mark of respect for a great Cypriot , Birkibrisly , I can vouch that the village is indeed in ruins apart from the Mosque -School that still appeared in reasonable order. The rest of the village is in tatters as a result of neglect and disrepair .
It has not been wantonly damaged , the fact the Mosque is still standing is an indication that the village has not suffered from criminal damage but sheer neglect.
The village is situated in a scenic spot and a rather beautiful area of Paphos .
It is a shame that this village , as well as others , have been neglegted by the RoC relevant authorities but I presume that any improvements or repairs can only be carried out if inhabitants are living in the vilage.


Dear Miltiades ,
People in north does not understand why it was neglected ....why .... why they were left to collapse .People are asking these questiones . was it part of plan or plans ?
My sister husband is from one of the Paphos villages to Miltiades . He was born in 1959 . he keep asking these questiones all the time since he visited his village . he speaks very good Cypriot Greek . Last night i was with him he says we can't live anymore with them he says . he is disappointed what he has seen in his village . Why they never find the ways to look after those houses .. was it that much difficult .He says look at their places in here he says .... flower .... flower he says .... when these words comes out from his mouth i can see bitter of his eyes . he can easly cry .... Thats what upset our people Miltiades .when they hear that no one cares about their lost .
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Postby kafenes » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:19 pm

miltiades wrote:As one who has recently visited Istinjo in Paphos , as a mark of respect for a great Cypriot , Birkibrisly , I can vouch that the village is indeed in ruins apart from the Mosque -School that still appeared in reasonable order. The rest of the village is in tatters as a result of neglect and disrepair .
It has not been wantonly damaged , the fact the Mosque is still standing is an indication that the village has not suffered from criminal damage but sheer neglect.
The village is situated in a scenic spot and a rather beautiful area of Paphos .
It is a shame that this village , as well as others , have been neglegted by the RoC relevant authorities but I presume that any improvements or repairs can only be carried out if inhabitants are living in the vilage.


The difference being miltiades, is that, the TCs can come to Istinjo any time and repair it if they want but the GCs cannot go into Famagusta. If there was electricity in Istinjo, I am sure it would have been well looked after but the way it was it was too costly to take electricity there hence why it is in the condition it is today.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:54 pm

Excuses excuses....unbelievable how these GCs can lie so easily, the TCs properties were intenionally neglected.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:07 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Excuses excuses....unbelievable how these GCs can lie so easily, the TCs properties were intenionally neglected.

Peering through the window gaps of the Mosque I did not see any signs of animal feed being in storage , other than an array of spider webs .

Neither did the doors or the walls of the Mosque appeared to have had any graffiti . The general disrepair is evident all around but there is no evidence of willful destruction .
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:12 pm

miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Excuses excuses....unbelievable how these GCs can lie so easily, the TCs properties were intenionally neglected.

Peering through the window gaps of the Mosque I did not see any signs of animal feed being in storage , other than an array of spider webs .

Neither did the doors or the walls of the Mosque appeared to have had any graffiti . The general disrepair is evident all around but there is no evidence of willful destruction .


One mosque does not a village or erase the guilt of GCs who knowing and malisciously burnt down villages in 1963 and neglected our villages after 1974. All is GC manipulation and cold calculated measure to wipe out TCs, camaflouging it with the pathetic excuse that it all fell down naturally.
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Postby Hatter » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:41 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Excuses excuses....unbelievable how these GCs can lie so easily, the TCs properties were intenionally neglected.


Why did the TC owners of the Istinjo houses intentionally neglect them, Viewpoint? There was nothing to stop them from maintaining their properties. And indeed, nothing to stop them from living in them, either.
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