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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 04, 2009 3:39 pm

Paphitis wrote:Let's have a closer look at your link and at Woodard's research.

Sure...

"As the Dark Age came to an end, this new writing system made its way from Cyprus to the Greek mainland, where people were illiterate, and it caught on. The Greeks of the homeland began to write again."

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Postby barouti » Mon May 04, 2009 3:51 pm

Get Real! wrote: Not only have you not bothered to provide a link to your text, but your piece clearly says…

“the Cypriot kings were left undisturbed” and “The GREEK CITIES joined the Ionian revolt”

So where’s the bit about Cypriots joining? :lol:

Had they been part of it would they have been left undisturbed? :lol:


lol...you're silly. It's a scanned extract from my Britannica Encyclopedia, hence no link to the text.

But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're selective rather than...well, as to why you missed where the text clearly states: But the Greek cities retained monarchial governments throughout ie the Greeks were the Cypriot kings.

But here, from the Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece

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Notice how it says most of Cyprus
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Postby Paphitis » Mon May 04, 2009 3:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Let's have a closer look at your link and at Woodard's research.

Sure...

"As the Dark Age came to an end, this new writing system made its way from Cyprus to the Greek mainland, where people were illiterate, and it caught on. The Greeks of the homeland began to write again."

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And yet you ignore this because it does not fit into your argument:

The earliest Greek script - Linear B - stems from the Minoan civilization, which thrived on Crete. Indeed, Knossos is the major Mycenaean site of the earliest Greek writing, which dates at about 1400 B.C.

and this:

Eventually, this script evolved into another syllabic script - the Cypriot Syllabary - which was used by the Greeks of Cyprus and first appeared in the mid-11th century B.C. In both of these scripts, each symbol represented a consonant and vowel sequence.

"The Greeks acquired the Phoenician script at some point and converted it into the Greek alphabet," he said. "My contention is that that happened on Cyprus, when the Greeks and Phoenicians were living next door to each other. The setting was right, and there was close cultural contact."

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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 04, 2009 4:10 pm

barouti wrote:
Get Real! wrote: Not only have you not bothered to provide a link to your text, but your piece clearly says…

“the Cypriot kings were left undisturbed” and “The GREEK CITIES joined the Ionian revolt”

So where’s the bit about Cypriots joining? :lol:

Had they been part of it would they have been left undisturbed? :lol:


lol...you're silly. It's a scanned extract from my Britannica Encyclopedia, hence no link to the text.

But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're selective rather than...well, as to why you missed where the text clearly states: But the Greek cities retained monarchial governments throughout ie the Greeks were the Cypriot kings.

But here, from the Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece

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Notice how it says most of Cyprus

“Most of Cyprus” doesn’t necessarily refer to Cypriots if “Greek cities” were all over the island does it, so why do you assume that which is not there? You should read what is there and not what you want.

Anyway, at the end of the day, all encyclopedias get their information from the same authorities that have preserved the flawed “history of Cyprus”. The history of Cyprus has only just began to be looked at seriously in the last 20 odd years so we’ll have a proper account of the events soon…
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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 04, 2009 4:12 pm

Paphitis wrote:And yet you ignore this because it does not fit into your argument:

Ok, let's have another look...

"As the Dark Age came to an end, this new writing system made its way from Cyprus to the Greek mainland, where people were illiterate, and it caught on. The Greeks of the homeland began to write again."

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Postby Paphitis » Mon May 04, 2009 4:19 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:And yet you ignore this because it does not fit into your argument:

Ok, let's have another look...

"As the Dark Age came to an end, this new writing system made its way from Cyprus to the Greek mainland, where people were illiterate, and it caught on. The Greeks of the homeland began to write again."

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They began to write again because Woodard clearly states this:

The earliest Greek script - Linear B - stems from the Minoan civilization, which thrived on Crete. Indeed, Knossos is the major Mycenaean site of the earliest Greek writing, which dates at about 1400 B.C.

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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 04, 2009 4:28 pm

Paphitis wrote:They began to write again because Woodard clearly states this:


The alleged “Dark Ages” of ancient Greece (and I say alleged because to be quite honest with you it’s all a load of manufactured rubbish by the mythologists of the 19th century) lasted for some 300 years Pahiti, so for 300 years they went back to living like cave men until GNOSIS came from Cyprus to bring light to the illiterate Greeks…

Hence:

"As the Dark Age came to an end, this new writing system made its way from Cyprus to the Greek mainland, where people were illiterate, and it caught on. The Greeks of the homeland began to write again."
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Postby Paphitis » Mon May 04, 2009 4:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:They began to write again because Woodard clearly states this:


The alleged “Dark Ages” of ancient Greece (and I say alleged because to be quite honest with you it’s all a load of manufactured rubbish by the mythologists of the 19th century) lasted for some 300 years Pahiti, so for 300 years they went back to living like cave men until GNOSIS came from Cyprus to bring light to the illiterate Greeks…

Hence:

"As the Dark Age came to an end, this new writing system made its way from Cyprus to the Greek mainland, where people were illiterate, and it caught on. The Greeks of the homeland began to write again."


And it made its way to Cyprus due to the Mycenaean trade links with the Greek Mainland according to Woodard. And the Greek was adopted from Phoenicians living in Cyprus and not the from the Eteocypriots who were also in the Dark Ages themselves. :lol:

"The Greeks acquired the Phoenician script at some point and converted it into the Greek alphabet," he said. "My contention is that that happened on Cyprus, when the Greeks and Phoenicians were living next door to each other. The setting was right, and there was close cultural contact."


I must thank you once again for that link.

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Postby polis » Mon May 04, 2009 5:47 pm

Paphitis wrote:
I must thank you once again for that link.

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It was really a great link and the best way to end the thread. Talkling about shooting oneself in the leg.
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Postby EPSILON » Mon May 04, 2009 5:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:And yet you ignore this because it does not fit into your argument:

Ok, let's have another look...

"As the Dark Age came to an end, this new writing system made its way from Cyprus to the Greek mainland, where people were illiterate, and it caught on. The Greeks of the homeland began to write again."

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Very good theory-with one small problem-how it happen the NEO CYPRIOTS to not be able to read and write?
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