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[Oracle]

..... For some reason Oracle and Paphitis completely ignore ...

.... Sorry to appear rude Copper, but you are a little too late and it has ALL been covered

[Get Real!]

..... For some reason Oracle and Paphitis completely ignore ...

.... Sorry to appear rude Copper, but you are a little too late and it has ALL been covered

You haven’t covered jackshit...

I overestimated your ability to comprehend such an essay when I told Paphitis that soon you’d logon, read the link and whack him on the head for making it public, but I was shocked that the entire paper just went over your head Oracle, although I can’t say the same for Paphitis!

[The Cypriot]

Because according to your radical views, we are now expected to believe that the Cypriots had been forcibly Hellenized, though they still considered themselves as Greeks during antiquity and have always identified themselves as such, and now suddenly 3000 years later there is some kind of awakening that you’re not really Greek after all? Whatever.
When you excavate an ancient artifact, you DO NOT ASSUME that…

1. It came from some other region of the world.

2. It was manufactured by foreigners.

3. It is of “foreign” design.

4. It was dropped off by aliens.

How dare you undermine my core belief system and fundamental sense of self by poo-pooing my credible narrative that Cypriots are the descendents of ancient astronauts, GR! ?

You completely ignored the hard evidence that I presented in this thread, archeological, cultural and genetic. And I could have mentioned Cyprus's participation in the ancient Galactic games but I didn't.

Instead you focus on convincing everyone the island isn't really Hellenic. But how can it be when it's alien!

Don't you realise how deep my attachment to my alien roots go? You will give me an enormous identity crisis if you're not careful.

It is my in-ALIEN-able right to believe Cypriots are aliens.

[Get Real!]

"The genetic contribution of Greek chromosomes to the Sicilian gene pool is estimated to be about 37% whereas the contribution of North African populations is estimated to be around 6%."

.... even Cyprus gets a mention. The darling Cypriot, please have a glass of zivania to calm the nerves

And what is the genetic contribution of Sicilian chromosomes to the Greek gene pool Oracle?

[The Cypriot]

Yes my dear , it does seem absurd that people can draw parallels with the Greeks and Sicilians, when we argue so much about how Greek the Cypriots are, even though the similarities there, are so striking. You would think there was no foundation for a Greek-Sicilian link. Oh but look, some silly scientist has checked this out ....

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v17/ ... 8120a.html

"The genetic contribution of Greek chromosomes to the Sicilian gene pool is estimated to be about 37% whereas the contribution of North African populations is estimated to be around 6%."

.... even Cyprus gets a mention. The darling Cypriot, please have a glass of zivania to calm the nerves

Oracle, you're my sister and I love you... but don't ever take sides against the family again. Ever.

[Get Real!]

Oracle, you're my sister and I love you... but don't ever take sides against the family again. Ever.

Can you please refrain from the constant irrelevant mafia crap?

[The Cypriot]

Oracle, you're my sister and I love you... but don't ever take sides against the family again. Ever.

Can you please refrain from the constant irrelevant mafia crap?

It's not irrelevant, GR! It's germane to the debate. Left field, admittedly, but germane nevertheless.

[polis]

But you didn't even counter my points with any primary sources or revealing newly discovered facts.

What stupid “points” are you mumbling about… these ones?

1)The legend that Cyprus was settled by the Nostoi, return of various Greek heroes from Troy, who founded Teucer at Salamis and Agapenor at Paphos.

Do you know what "legend" means? Start using a dictionary to find out how history was being written!

2) The Ionian Revolt is considered the main Greek uprising against the Persian yolk. The Greeks of Cyprus joined in this revolt.

Where did they get that from... a fortune cookie?

3) Cypriots were allowed to compete in the ancient Olympic Games.

Don’t tell me… they found the lists of all competitors that included their names, places of birth, and current residence! :roll:

You are posting MANUFACTURED RUBBISH otherwise known as a mythology!

You really have to understand GR's frustration. I mean in his genetic line, the first occurance of a written record were his own personal clumsy scribblings when he was discovered by civilisation, dragged out of his cave and forced to attend school.

[Oracle]

..... For some reason Oracle and Paphitis completely ignore ...

.... Sorry to appear rude Copper, but you are a little too late and it has ALL been covered

You haven’t covered jackshit...

I overestimated your ability to comprehend such an essay when I told Paphitis that soon you’d logon, read the link and whack him on the head for making it public, but I was shocked that the entire paper just went over your head Oracle, although I can’t say the same for Paphitis!

Well, it wasn't a paper I would have picked, myself! But you must admit I defended it admirably for him

[Oracle]

"The genetic contribution of Greek chromosomes to the Sicilian gene pool is estimated to be about 37% whereas the contribution of North African populations is estimated to be around 6%."

.... even Cyprus gets a mention. The darling Cypriot, please have a glass of zivania to calm the nerves

And what is the genetic contribution of Sicilian chromosomes to the Greek gene pool Oracle?

They probably wouldn't get funding to do this (at present) since they would have to justify the expenditure by demonstrating there was a massive migration from Sicily to Greece ... which they state at the outset there wasn't. The bulk of the migration was Greece to Sicily, which is why they looked at the gene flow in that direction.

I was surprised the African contribution to the Sicilian gene pool was as low as 6%, when they have good evidence of that being another substantial migration. But environmental factors play a big part, and maybe selection weighed against the African migrants.

So far, the genetic data seems to back up the historically accepted "narratives" ... but everything has to be weighed up with as many sources as possible.