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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 02, 2009 11:48 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:CONCLUSIONS-EPILOGUE

“this analysis has shown that political considerations and academic trends have played a major role. Furthermore the archaeological evidence, usually squeezed into preexisting historical constructions, often illuminated from very specific angles, and sometimes even completely ignored, has not always been the prime source of inspiration. That is why the colonization narrative is lately regarded by more and more researchers as an unstable house of cards.

(Page 18 )

http://www.stanford.edu/dept/archaeolog ... /paper.pdf

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And because she failed to come up with any evidence that indeed the colonisation narrative/theory is flawed, she had to include a proviso for undertaking such a thesis. After seeing the overwhelming lack of evidence to support what she set out to show, she needs to defend why she 'wasted' the time. So of course, she would say, 'it's topical' ... which is all the bold statement says. And we know it's topical because the Turks (and a few xerokefalli), use the academic 'need to question' merely to destabilise our alliances with Greece ....

I agree with the 'need to question', and research. But then at some point, you have to weigh up the evidence and draw a conclusion. Like it or not GR!, the overwhelming support for the Hellenisation of Cyprus (of which I am but one piece of living proof :lol: ), would make some more universally accepted theories in other areas, seem flimsy by comparison!

(Still trying to find a way to impress her for a date? :lol: )

Oracle, you’re too sick in the head with Hellenism itself to be able to participate in any discussion/investigation surrounding this myth, so don’t worry about it.


You are allowed this face-saving withdrawal from your indefensible position.

You have a lot to learn from people like Natasa, who despite being Greek has not surrendered to Hellenic-hogwash brainwashing like you, and utilizes her intellect independently to investigate and question that which does not add up.
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Postby Oracle » Sun May 03, 2009 12:10 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:CONCLUSIONS-EPILOGUE

“this analysis has shown that political considerations and academic trends have played a major role. Furthermore the archaeological evidence, usually squeezed into preexisting historical constructions, often illuminated from very specific angles, and sometimes even completely ignored, has not always been the prime source of inspiration. That is why the colonization narrative is lately regarded by more and more researchers as an unstable house of cards.

(Page 18 )

http://www.stanford.edu/dept/archaeolog ... /paper.pdf

:lol:


And because she failed to come up with any evidence that indeed the colonisation narrative/theory is flawed, she had to include a proviso for undertaking such a thesis. After seeing the overwhelming lack of evidence to support what she set out to show, she needs to defend why she 'wasted' the time. So of course, she would say, 'it's topical' ... which is all the bold statement says. And we know it's topical because the Turks (and a few xerokefalli), use the academic 'need to question' merely to destabilise our alliances with Greece ....

I agree with the 'need to question', and research. But then at some point, you have to weigh up the evidence and draw a conclusion. Like it or not GR!, the overwhelming support for the Hellenisation of Cyprus (of which I am but one piece of living proof :lol: ), would make some more universally accepted theories in other areas, seem flimsy by comparison!

(Still trying to find a way to impress her for a date? :lol: )

Oracle, you’re too sick in the head with Hellenism itself to be able to participate in any discussion/investigation surrounding this myth, so don’t worry about it.


You are allowed this face-saving withdrawal from your indefensible position.

You have a lot to learn from people like Natasa, who despite being Greek has not surrendered to Hellenic-hogwash brainwashing like you, and utilizes her intellect independently to investigate and question that which does not add up.


She is an archaeologist, so cultures are her specialty and I have praised her attempt to evaluate this "topical" theme by weighing up both schools of thought ... as I have done countless of times with my own specialties ... so you have nothing to teach me about independent investigation.

The fact she failed to prove what you erroneously assumed/hoped she would, shows how much you have to learn about jumping to conclusions...
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Postby boomerang » Sun May 03, 2009 12:28 am

You said
Assimilation is to be expected...


I said
Thank god here you have it after a long exchange we finally got to the bottom of it...


you said
And how the hell did you come up with that conclusion?


Your full agreement let me come to the conclusion...So we became assimilated...

you said
For all you know, your direct descendants might be Mycenaean, Arcadian, Phoenician, or even Ottoman but more than likely be a mixture of all of them.

Also again you forget to mention the pre of all these, which proves my point further that your history started from 3500 years ago...

I have only stated that Cyprus was largely uninhabited before the Phoenicians and Greeks arrived. Never ever denied that Cypriots existed for 10,000 years.

Ok if you actually believe this then you will believe that we had our own language and alphabet, prior and wait for it, to assimilation into greek...why?...because it did not survive, something like to what the aboriginal way of life and language will not survive in 3500...again assimilition to the max...god knows the brits tried every trick in book, from target practising to the stolen generation...

The only thing I accept is that I am a Hellene Cypriot or Greek Cypriot just like my ancestors before me. But I do not deny that Cypriot culture existed for 10,000 years

what were you before the asimilation mate?...

My Cypriot History goes back 10,000 years.

since you accepted assimilation to greece 3500 years ago you might as well say my world history as it will also be relevant...I asked above, what were you prior to 3500 years ago?...

But I will NOT deny my Hellenistic roots which existed for 3,500 because to do so is ALSO denying my Hellenic ancestry which blended with my pre-Hellenic ancestors. Cyprus as a result is still Hellenic and will always be so. because we offered so much to Hellenism itself, speak the same language, have the same culture and custom with other Hellenes.

wrong mate...its what blinded greek history that taught you this...the same history the aboriginals will be hearing in 3500 years from today...which ofcource is untrue...
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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun May 03, 2009 4:51 am

How do you Hellenize something that was already Hellenic?
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Postby boomerang » Sun May 03, 2009 4:56 am

yialousa1971 wrote:How do you Hellenize something that was already Hellenic?


I am confused is this pre or post hellenic?

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maybe the esteemed member of Yialousa could enlighten us... :lol:
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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun May 03, 2009 5:14 am

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yialousa1971 wrote:How do you Hellenize something that was already Hellenic?


I am confused is this pre or post hellenic?

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maybe the esteemed member of Yialousa could enlighten us... :lol:


Yes you are confused, don't speak in riddles then I can answer you. :)
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Postby boomerang » Sun May 03, 2009 5:16 am

yialousa1971 wrote:
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yialousa1971 wrote:How do you Hellenize something that was already Hellenic?


I am confused is this pre or post hellenic?

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maybe the esteemed member of Yialousa could enlighten us... :lol:


Yes you are confused, don't speak in riddles then I can answer you. :)


confusion on your behalf coz you got your blinkers on... :lol:
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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun May 03, 2009 5:25 am

boomerang wrote:
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yialousa1971 wrote:How do you Hellenize something that was already Hellenic?


I am confused is this pre or post hellenic?

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maybe the esteemed member of Yialousa could enlighten us... :lol:


Yes you are confused, don't speak in riddles then I can answer you. :)


confusion on your behalf coz you got your blinkers on... :lol:


Yes, I'm closed minded towards the common beliefs. Think about this, is there such a thing as a Caucasian Race? What was it's origins?
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Postby boomerang » Sun May 03, 2009 5:27 am

yialousa1971 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:How do you Hellenize something that was already Hellenic?


I am confused is this pre or post hellenic?

Image

maybe the esteemed member of Yialousa could enlighten us... :lol:


Yes you are confused, don't speak in riddles then I can answer you. :)


confusion on your behalf coz you got your blinkers on... :lol:


Yes, I'm closed minded towards the common beliefs. Think about this, is there such a thing as a Caucasian Race? What was it's origins?

answer the question about the coin in order to enable us in moving forward, do not do a dipshit of me... :lol:

ain't that right titty man?.. :lol:
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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun May 03, 2009 5:37 am

boomerang wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:How do you Hellenize something that was already Hellenic?


I am confused is this pre or post hellenic?

Image

maybe the esteemed member of Yialousa could enlighten us... :lol:


Yes you are confused, don't speak in riddles then I can answer you. :)


confusion on your behalf coz you got your blinkers on... :lol:


Yes, I'm closed minded towards the common beliefs. Think about this, is there such a thing as a Caucasian Race? What was it's origins?

answer the question about the coin in order to enable us in moving forward, do not do a dipshit of me... :lol:

ain't that right titty man?.. :lol:


You can find all types of figurines all over the Hellenic world. I don't believe in a pre Hellenic world. Don't be like GR.
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