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Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:46 pm

Oracle wrote:I'll accept that as an olive branch towards explaining the evolution of the latter-day Helleno-Cyprio specimens ... via autophagocytosis!

You can accept it as whatever you want…now if you’ll excuse me I’ve got a date with…

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Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:00 pm

boomerang wrote:
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boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:Just because there were Aboriginal tribes in Australia does not mean that Australians are direct descendants of these people and the same applies to Modern Cypriots.

Australians are the direct descendants of European settlers as Cypriots are also mostly the descendants of predominantly Mycenaean and Arcadian settlers.


yes mate today you can say this...but here comes the but...what will history say in 3000 years?...

I like how you say mostly...whaty makes you say mostly...any figures perhaps, or you going by what someone says in the 19th century?


assimilation is assimilation either way you see it...mostly means there were others...perhaps the true cypriots...


In 3,000 years, Cyprus will be mostly Sri Lankan and Indian for all we know.


well atleast we will know what history has installed for us... :lol:


Are you denying the fact that Australia is now mostly European and Cyprus is mostly Hellenic?


no i do not deny it that both were through assimilation...do accept it...NO... :lol:


So are you an assimilated Aboriginal?

Only 0.54% of Australia's population claims Aboriginal Ancestry and the remaining are predominately European.

So most Australians are not Aboriginal but are from many nations and predominantly from Europe. The same thing applies to Cyprus because 80% of the population is Hellenic.


you are comparing chalk and cheese...I am talking about aboriginals being assimilated same as what the Cypriots, 3500 years ago...you are talking today with a 200 year history...you need to get into perspective...

by your thinking, in 3500 years from today some smart ass will deny the existence of the aboriginals by looking into his crystal ball...


No not at all because no one has ever denied the existence of native persons in Cyprus, Greece, France or England for that matter.

No one is going to deny the existence of Aboriginals in 3500 years but no one could possibly claim Aboriginal Inheritance when they are probably going to be a blend of European, Asian, African and Arabic influences over this time frame. This is exactly what you are doing. You are claiming a native Cypriot inheritance in the face of massive Phoenician and even more massive Hellenic migration and influence into Cyprus which has withstood the test of time.
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Postby umit07 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:02 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:I'll accept that as an olive branch towards explaining the evolution of the latter-day Helleno-Cyprio specimens ... via autophagocytosis!

You can accept it as whatever you want…now if you’ll excuse me I’ve got a date with…

Natassha…
Natassha…
Natassha…
Natassha…
Natassha…

:D


Does "Natasha" have the same meaning in GC slang? ie; Prostitute :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:24 pm

Paphitis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Just because there were Aboriginal tribes in Australia does not mean that Australians are direct descendants of these people and the same applies to Modern Cypriots.

Australians are the direct descendants of European settlers as Cypriots are also mostly the descendants of predominantly Mycenaean and Arcadian settlers.


yes mate today you can say this...but here comes the but...what will history say in 3000 years?...

I like how you say mostly...whaty makes you say mostly...any figures perhaps, or you going by what someone says in the 19th century?


assimilation is assimilation either way you see it...mostly means there were others...perhaps the true cypriots...


In 3,000 years, Cyprus will be mostly Sri Lankan and Indian for all we know.


well atleast we will know what history has installed for us... :lol:


Are you denying the fact that Australia is now mostly European and Cyprus is mostly Hellenic?


no i do not deny it that both were through assimilation...do accept it...NO... :lol:


So are you an assimilated Aboriginal?

Only 0.54% of Australia's population claims Aboriginal Ancestry and the remaining are predominately European.

So most Australians are not Aboriginal but are from many nations and predominantly from Europe. The same thing applies to Cyprus because 80% of the population is Hellenic.


you are comparing chalk and cheese...I am talking about aboriginals being assimilated same as what the Cypriots, 3500 years ago...you are talking today with a 200 year history...you need to get into perspective...

by your thinking, in 3500 years from today some smart ass will deny the existence of the aboriginals by looking into his crystal ball...


No not at all because no one has ever denied the existence of native persons in Cyprus, Greece, France or England for that matter.

No one is going to deny the existence of Aboriginals in 3500 years but no one could possibly claim Aboriginal Inheritance when they are probably going to be a blend of European, Asian, African and Arabic influences over this time frame. This is exactly what you are doing. You are claiming a native Cypriot inheritance in the face of massive Phoenician and even more massive Hellenic migration and influence into Cyprus which has withstood the test of time.


If noone is denying the existence of people then how come we became greeks?...could it be through assimilation perhaps?...maybe a forced one...same as to what the brits did to the aboriginlas...have you forgotten about the stolen generation?..a tactic not so long ago?...christians converting to muslims was another way...so this begs the question what tricks did the greeks had up their sleeve when they were bearing gifts?...roses and kisses you think?...can any of those smartasses with crystal balls share some light? :lol:


Mate I don't think you are reading me properly...I am not going to claim aboriginal inheritance in 3500 years...it's the otherway around...some smartass in 3500 years from today is going to say australia is european, wiping the aboriginals out... :lol:

then you use the words migration and influence...whom exactly are you refering to?...martians or the natives of the then Cyprys?... :lol: ....again you have proven my point we got assimilated big time... :lol:

I said we have been assimilated...you on the other hand say we are greeks...big difference...

I am a Cypriot...I speak a cypriot {greek} dialect, I am an orthodox christian and I owe all this to assimilation...to this day I find this unacceptable...I am cypriot damn it...

Mate I am off to bed...goodnight buddy...

PS...when you coming to melbourne again?
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:30 pm

umit07 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:I'll accept that as an olive branch towards explaining the evolution of the latter-day Helleno-Cyprio specimens ... via autophagocytosis!

You can accept it as whatever you want…now if you’ll excuse me I’ve got a date with…

Natassha…
Natassha…
Natassha…
Natassha…
Natassha…

:D


Does "Natasha" have the same meaning in GC slang? ie; Prostitute :lol:

No, the Greek word for prostitute is “umit”... :lol:
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Postby umit07 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:38 pm

Get Real! wrote:
umit07 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:I'll accept that as an olive branch towards explaining the evolution of the latter-day Helleno-Cyprio specimens ... via autophagocytosis!

You can accept it as whatever you want…now if you’ll excuse me I’ve got a date with…

Natassha…
Natassha…
Natassha…
Natassha…
Natassha…

:D


Does "Natasha" have the same meaning in GC slang? ie; Prostitute :lol:

No, the Greek word for prostitute is “umit”... :lol:


You wish it was, Pusht Pezevenk :lol: . Now go spray your arse with veet, I'll bring the Vaseline :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:51 pm

umit07 wrote:You wish it was, Pusht Pezevenk :lol: . Now go spray your arse with veet, I'll bring the Vaseline :lol:

You should be nice to unkie GR... I'm the one who is going to help breathe life back into your Vista-infested laptop when you come back... remember? 8)
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:30 pm

boomerang wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Lit wrote:
boomerang wrote:This thread should be renamed the assimilation of Cypriots by the Greeks...


The subject of this thread is accurate and should not be renamed.

From the Embassy of the Republic of Cyprus:
http://www.cyprusembassy.net/home/index ... page&pid=8

However the most important event in the history of Cyprus is the arrival of the Achaean settlers at the end of the 12th and during the 11th century B.C.

The new Greek settlers brought a new vigour to the already flourishing culture of the island by establishing new towns and by introducing the Greek language, new techniques in metallurgy, new artistic styles and even religious elements from the Greek world.

In the subsequent Geometric period the hellenization of Cyprus was completed and this is, most probably, the period of the establishment city kingdoms, which are well attested in written sources in the following Archaic and Classical periods.

Cyprus was well-known to the ancients for its copper mines and forests. No wonder its wealth made it the object of contest among the great powers of the Eastern Mediterranean in antiquity: the Assyrians, the Egyptians and the Persians, who in turn became its masters.

During the 5th century B.C. Athens played an important role in Cyprus, cooperating with the main cities of the island against the Persians. It was during this time that Evagoras of Salamis rose to power, a figure of worldwide radiance at the time. On the partition of the empire of Alexander the Great, who finally liberated the island from the Persians, Cyprus became one of the most significant parts of the empire of the Ptolemies of Egypt; later it came under the dominion of the Romans in 58 B.C. Both during the Ptolemies and later under the Romans, the Sanctuary of Aphrodite at Paphos was the centre of the national, religious and cultural life of the island. In 330 A.D. it became a province of the Byzantine Empire.



so nobody was here before the greeks came out here?

it somehow reminds me of when the brits came to australia...

according to you there was no assimilation...is this right?



Ethnic cleansing perhaps?

They will say they simply died out, which amounts to the same thing. :lol:


The Turks were not around at the time.

The few hundred native Cypriots just blended in and adopted Hellenic Culture and maintained it for 3500 years.



Well, that is what Boomers said. I agree with him-------for a change. :lol:


ouch... :lol:



Sorry, I just disapproved of the language. You have improved your communication skills. :lol:

Now I am in for it. :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:42 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:I think the extra-terrestrial looks more like Talat :lol:


I rest my case. Irrefutable evidence of the connection between Cypriots and extra-terrestrials.


Alien?
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Original Cypriot?
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Does Talat have Mongolian eyes? I am not asking O. :lol:
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Postby DT. » Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:49 pm

Chief Wiggum?

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Or Commander in Chief?
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