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The Hellenisation of Cyprus

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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:@Oracle, did you whack Paphitis on the head with a frying pan and how hard a whack was it? :D

@Paphitis, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! The idiot of the year award is winging its way to you! :lol:

@Everyone:

This paper should be made compulsory reading for all Greek Cypriots!

Soon I'll be getting in touch with Natasha to praise her work, minus one or two errors she's made, and hopefully make her a member here even! :D


No I did not whack him over the head ... but I think you have had one whack too many!

Go back and re-read the article in view of the fact that the author admits to not being able to dent the theory/narrative that concludes (rightfully) that Cyprus is Hellenic.

Oracle wrote:The use of the term "Narrative" in this Archaeological context, is equivalent to the use of the term "Theory" in Science. So when the author says this:

"CONSTRUCTING AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL NARRATIVE:"

It can be read as:

"CONSTRUCTING AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL THEORY:"

The author then attempts to dissect the evidence from detractors and supporters, which uphold or tear-apart the "theory/narrative". However, she has presented nothing noteworthy which debunks the more widely held, and evidenced, theory on the Hellenisation of Cyprus. On the other hand, she cannot help but indicate the wealth of evidence which exists to support Hellenisation along the way, thus (unwittingly?) reinforcing the narrative/theory that Cyprus is overwhelmingly, irrefutably (even with this outright biased attempt) Hellenic.

My feeling is that she has jumped on the bandwagon to find something new to discuss (and isn't it fun to be a "maverick" GR!) ... so there is a clear bias towards proving the contesting, recent (Turk-inspired), views that Cyprus is not Hellenic .... But she has failed to deconstruct (if that was the aim) the widely held view that Cyprus was Hellenised, millennia ago.

As an academic and not a researcher, she does not provide any evidence of her own, some new discovery or artifact to seriously oppose the substantial narrative/theory that Cyprus was colonised and recolonised and received continual exchanges with mainland Greece for thousands of years.

The author was obviously presented with an assignment to weigh up the opposing views as an exercise in criticism. Fine.

Maybe the author has set herself a monumental task to put an end to one or other view and cleverly starts with the most controversial bias i.e. preference to believing Cypriot Hellenism is a myth, builds up the controversy (keeping GR! happy) ... BUT by failing to find adequate support for it, has achieved the ultimate confirmation of a Hellenic Cyprus (making Paphitis ecstatic). Brilliant! Anyone who can still doubt Cyprus' Hellenic historical/present connections, even based on this critical paper, has a serious anti-Cypriot political agenda. I guess that would just be the Turks then!

Not having much time for forum-play today, I cannot see if a conclusion has been presented and can't download the software to read the pdf ...

So Paphitis .... does the paper reach an effective conclusion?
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:00 pm

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Paphitis wrote:Just because there were Aboriginal tribes in Australia does not mean that Australians are direct descendants of these people and the same applies to Modern Cypriots.

Australians are the direct descendants of European settlers as Cypriots are also mostly the descendants of predominantly Mycenaean and Arcadian settlers.


yes mate today you can say this...but here comes the but...what will history say in 3000 years?...

I like how you say mostly...whaty makes you say mostly...any figures perhaps, or you going by what someone says in the 19th century?


assimilation is assimilation either way you see it...mostly means there were others...perhaps the true cypriots...


In 3,000 years, Cyprus will be mostly Sri Lankan and Indian for all we know.


well atleast we will know what history has installed for us... :lol:


Are you denying the fact that Australia is now mostly European and Cyprus is mostly Hellenic?
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Postby boomerang » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:06 pm

Paphitis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Just because there were Aboriginal tribes in Australia does not mean that Australians are direct descendants of these people and the same applies to Modern Cypriots.

Australians are the direct descendants of European settlers as Cypriots are also mostly the descendants of predominantly Mycenaean and Arcadian settlers.


yes mate today you can say this...but here comes the but...what will history say in 3000 years?...

I like how you say mostly...whaty makes you say mostly...any figures perhaps, or you going by what someone says in the 19th century?


assimilation is assimilation either way you see it...mostly means there were others...perhaps the true cypriots...


In 3,000 years, Cyprus will be mostly Sri Lankan and Indian for all we know.


well atleast we will know what history has installed for us... :lol:


Are you denying the fact that Australia is now mostly European and Cyprus is mostly Hellenic?


no i do not deny it that both were through assimilation...do accept it...NO... :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:09 pm

It should be read as it was intended to Oracle…

“MANUFACTURING AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL THESIS”

She presents nothing noteworthy? :lol: Oracle, if I were to cut & paste all the sections that debunk the Greek myths we would end up with a whole booklet!

Anyway, I'm not going to waste any more time about this here with those living in denial, because this is valuable time that I could spend liaising with Natassha! Image

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Postby boomerang » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:12 pm

Get Real! wrote:It should be read as it was intended to Oracle…

“MANUFACTURING AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL THESIS”

She presents nothing noteworthy? :lol: Oracle, if I were to cut & paste all the sections that debunk the Greek myths we would end up with a whole booklet!

Anyway, I'm not going to waste any more time about this here with those living in denial, because this is valuable time that I could spend liaising with Natassha! Image

:wink:


what are the chances of an intro with natasha's sister... :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:13 pm

boomerang wrote:
Get Real! wrote:It should be read as it was intended to Oracle…

“MANUFACTURING AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL THESIS”

She presents nothing noteworthy? :lol: Oracle, if I were to cut & paste all the sections that debunk the Greek myths we would end up with a whole booklet!

Anyway, I'm not going to waste any more time about this here with those living in denial, because this is valuable time that I could spend liaising with Natassha! Image

:wink:


what are the chances of an intro with natasha's sister... :lol:

I just LOVE that name... Natassha! :D
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Postby boomerang » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:15 pm

Get Real! wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Get Real! wrote:It should be read as it was intended to Oracle…

“MANUFACTURING AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL THESIS”

She presents nothing noteworthy? :lol: Oracle, if I were to cut & paste all the sections that debunk the Greek myths we would end up with a whole booklet!

Anyway, I'm not going to waste any more time about this here with those living in denial, because this is valuable time that I could spend liaising with Natassha! Image

:wink:


what are the chances of an intro with natasha's sister... :lol:

I just LOVE that name... Natassha! :D


any more fetishes you wanna share?... :lol:
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:16 pm

More evidence of exta-terrestrial influence on Cypriot civilisation.

The ancient "amphitheatre" at Kourion.... (note the saucer shape)

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Is this an open-air venue, as conventional mainstream historians suggest, or could it be a UFO landing site?


The ship the ancient astronauts may have used to travel to Cyprus, according to respected exo-historians like Eric Von Daniken:

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Can the shape be a coincidence?

I WANT to believe.....
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Postby RichardB » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:17 pm

boomerang wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Get Real! wrote:It should be read as it was intended to Oracle…

“MANUFACTURING AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL THESIS”

She presents nothing noteworthy? :lol: Oracle, if I were to cut & paste all the sections that debunk the Greek myths we would end up with a whole booklet!

Anyway, I'm not going to waste any more time about this here with those living in denial, because this is valuable time that I could spend liaising with Natassha! Image

:wink:


what are the chances of an intro with natasha's sister... :lol:

I just LOVE that name... Natassha! :D


any more fetishes you wanna share?... :lol:


Ahhh Natassha

anagram 'Has Satan'

now I'm worried GR
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:19 pm

boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Just because there were Aboriginal tribes in Australia does not mean that Australians are direct descendants of these people and the same applies to Modern Cypriots.

Australians are the direct descendants of European settlers as Cypriots are also mostly the descendants of predominantly Mycenaean and Arcadian settlers.


yes mate today you can say this...but here comes the but...what will history say in 3000 years?...

I like how you say mostly...whaty makes you say mostly...any figures perhaps, or you going by what someone says in the 19th century?


assimilation is assimilation either way you see it...mostly means there were others...perhaps the true cypriots...


In 3,000 years, Cyprus will be mostly Sri Lankan and Indian for all we know.


well atleast we will know what history has installed for us... :lol:


Are you denying the fact that Australia is now mostly European and Cyprus is mostly Hellenic?


no i do not deny it that both were through assimilation...do accept it...NO... :lol:


So are you an assimilated Aboriginal?

Only 0.54% of Australia's population claims Aboriginal Ancestry and the remaining are predominately European.

So most Australians are not Aboriginal but are from many nations and predominantly from Europe. The same thing applies to Cyprus because 80% of the population is Hellenic.
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