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A way to stop any more Apostolides type actions?

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Postby boomerang » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:20 am

Viewpoint wrote:The wheels are turning in the TRNC to see what can be done to counter this clarification, there has even been suggestions the borders might close as to get a decision in the GC courts you have to serve papers, closure would not allow these papers to be served and at the same time be a slap in the face of the EU.


Turkey will not allow that.... 8)
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:21 am

boomerang wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The wheels are turning in the TRNC to see what can be done to counter this clarification, there has even been suggestions the borders might close as to get a decision in the GC courts you have to serve papers, closure would not allow these papers to be served and at the same time be a slap in the face of the EU.


Turkey will not allow that.... 8)


Why?
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Postby Kifeas » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:21 am

Viewpoint wrote:The wheels are turning in the TRNC to see what can be done to counter this clarification, there has even been suggestions the borders might close as to get a decision in the GC courts you have to serve papers, closure would not allow these papers to be served and at the same time be a slap in the face of the EU.


The way such court papers are served remains in the power of the RoC judicial and legislating authorities to decide, and they may easily change the methods to include serving through advertisements in the press -local and international, registered mail either in the north or in their home country, etc, etc. It does not necessarily have to be through direct and personal service, if this is impossible to secure.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:25 am

Viewpoint wrote:The wheels are turning in the TRNC to see what can be done to counter this clarification, there has even been suggestions the borders might close as to get a decision in the GC courts you have to serve papers, closure would not allow these papers to be served and at the same time be a slap in the face of the EU.


The papers could be delivered alongside the Pensions they pick up ....
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Postby Hatter » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:32 am

Viewpoint wrote:The wheels are turning in the TRNC to see what can be done to counter this clarification, there has even been suggestions the borders might close as to get a decision in the GC courts you have to serve papers, closure would not allow these papers to be served and at the same time be a slap in the face of the EU.


What, no more marshalling of illegal immigrants towards the south via the TNRC? And no more access to free medical care by TCs who live in the north? And no more access to work in the south by TCs who live in the north? And no more raking-in the money stupidly spent by some GCs in the casinos in the north? And no more drug traffic from the north to the south? And all this in order to pander to those crooks who sell GC properties in the north to those gullible (yeah, right!) foreigners ? Wow! And you expect this to be taken seriously?

BTW, borders are between internationally recognised countries, the so-called green line is not a border.
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Postby Mr. T » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:50 am

polis wrote:Great post DT! I also think that Mr. T should post his limited liability company idea to as many forums and websites as possible. Hell, these guys sound so miserable as of late, I am even voluteering to have their companies set up for free. All I need is:

a. their full name,
b. address of the property they are currently tresspassing on and
c. details of any property or other assets within the EU that can be attached to satisfy a judgment


OK you and DT have worn me down. You win. I will email the idea to a solicitor in the TRNC and if he thinks there is merit in it he can take it forward.
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Re: A way to stop any more Apostolides type actions?

Postby Mr. T » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:04 am

Byron wrote:
Mr. T wrote:So what is to stop anybody living in Northern Cyprus from setting up a limited liability company there then transferring the property to the company?.

Shareholders and companies are seperate legal entities and it would not matter one jot whether the shareholder had assets in the EU.


Food for thought.


You are obviously ignorant in law- ever heard the legal term

"Lifting the veil of incorporation"



Of course I am ignorant of thousands of laws. If you think there is anybody in the world who is not ignorant of many of them then it is you who is ignorant but I am well aware of this term AND what it means.

I would be interested to know the premise that makes you believe it would be a problem in this instance.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:18 am

Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The wheels are turning in the TRNC to see what can be done to counter this clarification, there has even been suggestions the borders might close as to get a decision in the GC courts you have to serve papers, closure would not allow these papers to be served and at the same time be a slap in the face of the EU.


The way such court papers are served remains in the power of the RoC judicial and legislating authorities to decide, and they may easily change the methods to include serving through advertisements in the press -local and international, registered mail either in the north or in their home country, etc, etc. It does not necessarily have to be through direct and personal service, if this is impossible to secure.


I think you have to serve them by hand and in a language they understand...maybe we can get one of our resident lawyers to clarify this point becuase if done in local papers which are not read or available to those in the TRNC, then they wont have had to opportunity to defend themselves.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:08 am

Mr. T wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
polis wrote:Great post DT! I also think that Mr. T should post his limited liability company idea to as many forums and websites as possible. Hell, these guys sound so miserable as of late, I am even voluteering to have their companies set up for free. All I need is:

a. their full name,
b. address of the property they are currently tresspassing on and
c. details of any property or other assets within the EU that can be attached to satisfy a judgment

MrT, can you help us out here?

She’s busy sucking on some lemons… :lol:


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Postby polis » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:29 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The wheels are turning in the TRNC to see what can be done to counter this clarification, there has even been suggestions the borders might close as to get a decision in the GC courts you have to serve papers, closure would not allow these papers to be served and at the same time be a slap in the face of the EU.


The way such court papers are served remains in the power of the RoC judicial and legislating authorities to decide, and they may easily change the methods to include serving through advertisements in the press -local and international, registered mail either in the north or in their home country, etc, etc. It does not necessarily have to be through direct and personal service, if this is impossible to secure.


I think you have to serve them by hand and in a language they understand...maybe we can get one of our resident lawyers to clarify this point becuase if done in local papers which are not read or available to those in the TRNC, then they wont have had to opportunity to defend themselves.


All court documents to be served in Cyprus are drafted and served in Greek. They do not need to be translated though it would be a good idea to accompany a writ with a letter from the lawyer explaining in detail what the writ is about and what the defendants must do to appear in the action and the possible consequences in case they fail to appear. Otherwise the document can be served in any number of ways including by post.
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