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[insan]

Varoshia under "trnc" admin offcourse thats what they proposed,state all the facts or dont speak.

I'm not talking abt the Annan Plan. Restitution of Varosha proposed in 1977 by TC leadership.

[DT.]

The only way is to ask permission of the legal owner of the land before building anything on it.

A bi-communal, properties board should have been established in 1975 to solve the property problems of all refugees.

Had the GC land Orams built their villa on, been an legally exchanged land between the TC refugee and the GC owner; there wouldn't have been any problems today. However, in a small island that illiteracy and scoring a political point rule, the main cause is how much damage we can cause each other.

Funny how all these ideas of what should have happened are popping up now? Where were these ideas when DIck and Jane from Lewisham were building on the Konstantinou family land in Kyrenia?

I'm sure it was TC leadership who proposed restitution of Varosha, had it been accepted it would have allowed, return of abt 40.000 GC refugees.

They promised the return of Varosha in exchange for the opening of the Tymbou airport and Famagusta port. (In essence recognition of the "trnc)

[DT.]

The only way is to ask permission of the legal owner of the land before building anything on it.

A bi-communal, properties board should have been established in 1975 to solve the property problems of all refugees.

Had the GC land Orams built their villa on, been an legally exchanged land between the TC refugee and the GC owner; there wouldn't have been any problems today. However, in a small island that illiteracy and scoring a political point rule, the main cause is how much damage we can cause each other.

Funny how all these ideas of what should have happened are popping up now? Where were these ideas when DIck and Jane from Lewisham were building on the Konstantinou family land in Kyrenia?

I'm sure it was TC leadership who proposed restitution of Varosha, had it been accepted it would have allowed, return of abt 40.000 GC refugees.

They promised the return of Varosha in exchange for the opening of the Tymbou airport and Famagusta port. (In essence recognition of the "trnc)

we countered that offer with the opening of famagusta port under joint management of TC's and gC's and UN ownership but the turkish side rejected it.

[insan]

The only way is to ask permission of the legal owner of the land before building anything on it.

A bi-communal, properties board should have been established in 1975 to solve the property problems of all refugees.

Had the GC land Orams built their villa on, been an legally exchanged land between the TC refugee and the GC owner; there wouldn't have been any problems today. However, in a small island that illiteracy and scoring a political point rule, the main cause is how much damage we can cause each other.

Funny how all these ideas of what should have happened are popping up now? Where were these ideas when DIck and Jane from Lewisham were building on the Konstantinou family land in Kyrenia?

I'm sure it was TC leadership who proposed restitution of Varosha, had it been accepted it would have allowed, return of abt 40.000 GC refugees.

They promised the return of Varosha in exchange for the opening of the Tymbou airport and Famagusta port. (In essence recognition of the "trnc)

Inn 1977 it was called Turkish Federated State of Cyprus. Things would have been far better had that proposal been accepted by GC leadership.

[DT.]

The only way is to ask permission of the legal owner of the land before building anything on it.

A bi-communal, properties board should have been established in 1975 to solve the property problems of all refugees.

Had the GC land Orams built their villa on, been an legally exchanged land between the TC refugee and the GC owner; there wouldn't have been any problems today. However, in a small island that illiteracy and scoring a political point rule, the main cause is how much damage we can cause each other.

Funny how all these ideas of what should have happened are popping up now? Where were these ideas when DIck and Jane from Lewisham were building on the Konstantinou family land in Kyrenia?

I'm sure it was TC leadership who proposed restitution of Varosha, had it been accepted it would have allowed, return of abt 40.000 GC refugees.

They promised the return of Varosha in exchange for the opening of the Tymbou airport and Famagusta port. (In essence recognition of the "trnc)

Inn 1977 it was called Turkish Federated State of Cyprus. Things would have been far better had that proposal been accepted by GC leadership.

Insan the offer was from the American-British-Canadian initiative in 78 and it was rejected by both sides. How do you turn that into we offered varosha but you refused?

[insan]

The only way is to ask permission of the legal owner of the land before building anything on it.

A bi-communal, properties board should have been established in 1975 to solve the property problems of all refugees.

Had the GC land Orams built their villa on, been an legally exchanged land between the TC refugee and the GC owner; there wouldn't have been any problems today. However, in a small island that illiteracy and scoring a political point rule, the main cause is how much damage we can cause each other.

Funny how all these ideas of what should have happened are popping up now? Where were these ideas when DIck and Jane from Lewisham were building on the Konstantinou family land in Kyrenia?

I'm sure it was TC leadership who proposed restitution of Varosha, had it been accepted it would have allowed, return of abt 40.000 GC refugees.

They promised the return of Varosha in exchange for the opening of the Tymbou airport and Famagusta port. (In essence recognition of the "trnc)

we countered that offer with the opening of famagusta port under joint management of TC's and gC's and UN ownership but the turkish side rejected it.

Bulent Ecevit, the Turkish Prime Minister at the time of the invasion, ''played the card'' of Famagusta in early 1978 when he presented Waldheim with proposals for the ''reshuffle of the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot zones'' in which Varosha was included.

Rauf Denktash followed suit in July 1978 presenting a proposal on Varosha allowing the return of 35.000 refugees to the city, but did not accept the withdrawal of the occupation forces surrounding the city, something which prompted the Cypriot government to reject it on security reasons.

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/embassies/hag ... enDocument

In 1978 proposal, it was an attempt to reshuffle of the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot zones. However your historic rooted and justifiable Turcophobia did'nt let your leadership to accept it.

[DT.]

The only way is to ask permission of the legal owner of the land before building anything on it.

A bi-communal, properties board should have been established in 1975 to solve the property problems of all refugees.

Had the GC land Orams built their villa on, been an legally exchanged land between the TC refugee and the GC owner; there wouldn't have been any problems today. However, in a small island that illiteracy and scoring a political point rule, the main cause is how much damage we can cause each other.

Funny how all these ideas of what should have happened are popping up now? Where were these ideas when DIck and Jane from Lewisham were building on the Konstantinou family land in Kyrenia?

I'm sure it was TC leadership who proposed restitution of Varosha, had it been accepted it would have allowed, return of abt 40.000 GC refugees.

They promised the return of Varosha in exchange for the opening of the Tymbou airport and Famagusta port. (In essence recognition of the "trnc)

we countered that offer with the opening of famagusta port under joint management of TC's and gC's and UN ownership but the turkish side rejected it.

Bulent Ecevit, the Turkish Prime Minister at the time of the invasion, ''played the card'' of Famagusta in early 1978 when he presented Waldheim with proposals for the ''reshuffle of the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot zones'' in which Varosha was included.

Rauf Denktash followed suit in July 1978 presenting a proposal on Varosha allowing the return of 35.000 refugees to the city, but did not accept the withdrawal of the occupation forces surrounding the city, something which prompted the Cypriot government to reject it on security reasons.

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/embassies/hag ... enDocument

In 1978 proposal, it was an attempt to reshuffle of the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot zones. However your historic rooted and justifiable Turcophobia did'nt let your leadership to accept it.

One of Denktash's great offers! I'll surround you with troops in the enclosed area of Varosha...look at me I made an offer.

[Mr. T]

Instead of “you people” read “your people”.

So this would make the people of Britain extinct? A rather strange thing to say.

I don't know why you bother initiating such a debate if you're not prepared to face the responses, and resort to this... do you really think you're so smart?

Your responses get more and more weird as time goes on.

It is you that used the words 'your people'. My people are my fellow British citizens.

If you meant something else there is no need to be shy.

[polis]

The only way is to ask permission of the legal owner of the land before building anything on it.

A bi-communal, properties board should have been established in 1975 to solve the property problems of all refugees.

Had the GC land Orams built their villa on, been an legally exchanged land between the TC refugee and the GC owner; there wouldn't have been any problems today. However, in a small island that illiteracy and scoring a political point rule, the main cause is how much damage we can cause each other. :lol:

Funny how all these ideas of what should have happened are popping up now? Where were these ideas when DIck and Jane from Lewisham were building on the Konstantinou family land in Kyrenia?

Any more details on this Dick and Jane? Is the Konstantinou family interested in suing?

[Mr. T]

So what is to stop anybody living in Northern Cyprus from setting up a limited liability company there then transferring the property to the company?.

Shareholders and companies are seperate legal entities and it would not matter one jot whether the shareholder had assets in the EU.

Food for thought.

Finding a loop hole to accommodate the continuation of crime against Greek Cypriot land/property, can only anger GCs further to pursue further EU judgments against the “TRNC” to the point where more and more Turkish Cypriots will suffer. Eventually TCs won’t even be able to fart in the “TRNC”, so if that’s what your aim is keep brainstorming like a criminal and watch you people become extinct.

The Greek Cypriots are NOT peddling TC property away to foreigners and have even setup special laws to protect them, so perhaps you should start questioning your attitude and linking it to the existence of the Cyprus Problem…

Where have I advocated that the action I have mentioned should be taken?

When you say 'you people become extinct' it would have made sense if you had clarified what 'you people' are. For instance do you mean people who have bought land that wasn't Turkish Cypriot or foreign owned pre 74 or perhaps you meant people who like eating oranges?

If GCs wish to attempt more EU actions and increase any further the possibilty of South Cyprus having Turkey instead of the TRNC as a neighbour that is their right.

The "trnc" is Turkey, so what will change. It is only the blind who refuses to see the connection between the above two.! In the end, the RoC will have to deal with Turkey anyway to get them to leave the island and by taking her "trnc" with her to have the possibility of becoming a EU member. 70 Million Turks welfare will be more important to her than the welfare of 120,000 True TC's. Turkey may even help by taking the TC's with her for them to live in Turkey. It will be Mission Accomplished both for Turkey and the RoC.!

Enjoy your dreams.