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Postby boomerang » Fri May 01, 2009 2:09 am

halil wrote:The Turkish Cypriot Bar Council has expressed the view that the ECJ’s judgment of the Orams Case might cause the possible solution of the Cyprus problem to be reached at negotiations be not lasting.
In a statement of the Bar Council jointly issued by its President Hasan Sozmener and the General Secretary Feyzi Hansel, it is said that the Council will examine the critical issue in detail as soon as possible.
The statement stressed the need for the Turkish side to urgently evaluate the developments and take a decision.

`If the conditions reached after years of struggle at negotiations will be repealed by a court’s judgment, and if it’s not legally possible to prevent this from happening, then there is no need to waste time at the negotiations table` the statement said.
The Bar Council stated that politics is involved in the ECJ’s judgment and the right of property is set prior to all other rights, despite of the fact that there are rights which are prior to the right of property.

`It has been proved that individual appeals at international courts, which challenge the solution aspects of the Cyprus problem agreed by political figures in Cyprus, will continue. These courts act with political influence and it’s a high possibility that they will repeal the solution issues agreed on by the two sides` the Bar Council said.

A wide criticism of the ECJ judgment also came from various platforms based in the TRNC.

Platforms expressed the view that the Turkish Cypriot side should immediately withdraw from the negotiations table in order to avoid further derogation.
Making such a judgment, while the two leaders maintain their peace talks, will harm negotiations, they said.


The Turkish Cypriot Bar Council...is this some kind of a sick joke?... :roll:

not funny... :twisted:
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Postby Hermes » Fri May 01, 2009 2:11 am

YFred wrote:Beg to differ, in actual fact the whole pupose of this action was to stop the construction by the Brits and other EU people from building on GC land in the North.
That is only a part of it. I'm surprised you haven't realised the full implications. The ECJ decision effectively allows Greek Cypriot courts jurisdiction over land issues in the north of Cyprus. This case will set a precedent and the ruling strengthens any legal claims Greek Cypriots might want to assert over their former properties. It provides a European legal context for any proposed solution and validates the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus. Something the Turkish side has been in denial about. If anything it makes a need for a solution more urgent, if Turkey is to avoid finding itself dragged through the European courts and faced with staggering compensation claims. As I said before, it's over. There is no status-quo anymore.
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Postby boomerang » Fri May 01, 2009 2:16 am

Hermes wrote:
YFred wrote:Beg to differ, in actual fact the whole pupose of this action was to stop the construction by the Brits and other EU people from building on GC land in the North.
That is only a part of it. I'm surprised you haven't realised the full implications. The ECJ decision effectively allows Greek Cypriot courts jurisdiction over land issues in the north of Cyprus. This case will set a precedent and the ruling strengthens any legal claims Greek Cypriots might want to assert over their former properties. It provides a European legal context for any proposed solution and validates the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus. Something the Turkish side has been in denial about. If anything it makes a need for a solution more urgent, if Turkey is to avoid finding itself dragged through the European courts and faced with staggering compensation claims. As I said before, it's over. There is no status-quo anymore.


Hermes, you are wasting your time with knucklehead...this issue is way above his level of comprehension...
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Postby Hermes » Fri May 01, 2009 3:12 am

boomerang wrote:Hermes, you are wasting your time with knucklehead...this issue is way above his level of comprehension...

I fear you are right. It's a strange world up north where no light or reason penetrates. Papa Turk has kept them in the dark so long they are like children who have been living in a shed all their lives. Still, we must do what we can...
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