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VATAN claims that a PKK camp exist in the Republic of Cyprus

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Postby RAFAELLA » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:22 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:Theofilos was a brave man who was murdered by coward turkish agents.
Well, you have to start killing people because there are millions out there who support kurdish people and their strugle. How quickly can you achieve that?

Murtaza, you didn't answer my question.

Murtaza wrote:how coward that agents ? Isnt it?
Because he killed someone who help murderer of Turkish people.
NO, He support PKK not kurdish people, This two is complatly different.

Yes, for me they are cowards. Did Theofilos killed turkish people? No, he was innocent. He was helping the struggle of Kurdish people and he was making it known to the world.
Turks didn't like the fact that he made truths, turkish brutality towards the kurdish people, known to the world so they prefered to silence him once and for all.

Murtaza wrote:If you think Turks as your enemy, why do you want reunion with enemy?

Don't get confused, Turks are our enemy not Tcs. There's a big difference.

Murtaza wrote:what you feel If Turkey support a terorist organization?

And who says that she doesn't?
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Postby Murtaza » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:27 pm

Don't get confused, Turks are our enemy not Tcs. There's a big difference.

Rafaella yes TC are not your enemy, Because of Turkey. If not Turkey, TC will be your enemy, Or well there wont be any TC.

And to support pkk is to support killing. You can do it, but well you can die for it too.

To support kurds is complately different than to support PKK.

I dont think I will continue this debate anymore.
I am out. You make me angry, and I dont want to be someone like you, who support murderer and a fasist.
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Postby detailer » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:27 pm

This totally covers me Detailer eventhough it now raises me some other question.Lets say indeed this organization was providing some support to the PKK.Would that mean that Theofilos's purpose was to kill innocent people. Afterall it might have as well been the Kurdish members helping PKK and not himself. Point is should we totally blame Theofilos for whatever that organization was doing at the time and not see what his aim was?
Anyway i guess he only knew the right answer to this


We are on a similar line. :)
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Postby garbitsch » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:22 pm

There is nothing called a "Kurd". It is not mentioned in Laussaine Treaty. I hope you got the message Raf.
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Postby Yiannis » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:13 am

There is nothing called a "Kurd".


Can you explain please?
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Postby RAFAELLA » Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:45 am

garbitsch wrote:There is nothing called a "Kurd". It is not mentioned in Laussaine Treaty. I hope you got the message Raf.


"N o t h i n g" called a "kurd"? "N o t h i n g".

No. I didn't get the message. Would you be so kind to inform me?
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Postby garbitsch » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:49 am

Well if there is nothing called "Turkish minority of Greece" then there is nothing called "Kurdish minority of Turkey". Don't be a hypocrite!!!
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Postby MicAtCyp » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:39 pm

Both the Greek and the GCs are living in a myth regarding the Kurds. The fact is that the Greek government discovered the Kurds when they realised they could be used against Turkey. All this "use" was portrayed to the public as the "brotherly" Kurdish nation that fights for freedom against Turkey the same way we do. In the meantime Ocalan himself became like an undisputed God inside the Kurds. When the Greek officials later realised with what a crook they messed up with, and what an asshole he was, they started murmuring to each other "oh no, what this malakas wants again?" Anyway the myths continued, the GCs never learned that 30% of the settlers in the occupied areas are "brother" Kurds. Theofilos Georgiades was the local link in Cyprus for the "services" providsed to the Kurds.
What these "services" were unfortunately there are no independent sources. If someone is interested the only sources available come from the Turks. When a GC or Gr reads them he will really fall from the sky. The information of the Turks is so beyond the Gr/GC imagination that even if you consider most of it propaganda just 10% of it to be true will schock you. (Sorry I don't have the link -do a goggle search and you will find it). They mostly describe those "services" as fascilities for drug trafficking, and they involve many profound names of the GC society in that too.This is a well know method of the Turkish military in raising funds which obviously was copied by the Kurds.

When Theofilos was assisinated everybody said the Turkish MIT did it presubably for his work in revealing the Turkish crimes against the Kurds and against Cyprus. Some months later however they finally said on the news his assisinators were 2 persons both people of the GC mafia.No arrrests were made, nobody was convicted, no continuation on the news, no nothing. Most people did not even notice it in the news.So most Cypriots until today think that Theofilos was killed by the Turkish MIT....

The problem is, if Theofilos was indeed killed by the GC mafia which is a fact then what the Turks say in their propaganda sites is not a lie.
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