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[garbitsch]

Oh he means the guy in the poster.. Sorry I misunderstood

[Yiannis]

The guy in the picture is Theofilos Georgiades a GreekCypriot and strong supporter of Kurdish rights. I tried finding a non-biased source but unfortunately i couldnt.Therefore i will just give a short biography which in my opinion at least has nothing biased in it.

He studied political sciences in the Univ of Athens and then Turkology including turkish history and language in universities of Germany and France. He later on worked as an officer of Turkish matters at the Cy Press & Information Office.In 1988 he and many others founded the Cyprus Committee of Solidarity with Kurdistan and he made his presence noticable through many lectures, interviews and articles concering attrocities done by Turkey (Kurds, Armenian genocide, genocide of Greeks in Pontius and many others).On the same time he uses Kurdish connections in Turkey in order to retrieve confessions by Turkish soldiers participating in the invasion and gathers many facts about gc missing persons.In March 1994 he orgnizes an international seminar in Brussels where he reveals all his findings concerning atrocities and violations of human rights done by Turkey.His findings cause a lot of discussions throughout Europe at that time.Few days later on the 20th of March of 94 he was shot dead outside his house in Nicosia.

Bottom line is that this man did nothing wrong other than publishing his information on many matters concerning human rights in Turkey. I will live it up to you to decide whether this man was a terrorist or not.All comments are welcome.

p.s im not saying that whatever he used to tell about Turkey was true but i dont think this guy diserved to die.If what he said were all lies then all Turkey had to do was to prove him wrong and NOT kill him.Also any strong proves that it wasnt Turkish spies that killed him are welcome.

[detailer]

The guy in the picture is Theofilos Georgiades a GreekCypriot and strong supporter of Kurdish rights. I tried finding a non-biased source but unfortunately i couldnt.Therefore i will just give a short biography which in my opinion at least has nothing biased in it.

He studied political sciences in the Univ of Athens and then Turkology including turkish history and language in universities of Germany and France. He later on worked as an officer of Turkish matters at the Cy Press & Information Office.In 1988 he and many others founded the Cyprus Committee of Solidarity with Kurdistan and he made his presence noticable through many lectures, interviews and articles concering attrocities done by Turkey (Kurds, Armenian genocide, genocide of Greeks in Pontius and many others).On the same time he uses Kurdish connections in Turkey in order to retrieve confessions by Turkish soldiers participating in the invasion and gathers many facts about gc missing persons.In March 1994 he orgnizes an international seminar in Brussels where he reveals all his findings concerning atrocities and violations of human rights done by Turkey.His findings cause a lot of discussions throughout Europe at that time.Few days later on the 20th of March of 94 he was shot dead outside his house in Nicosia.

Bottom line is that this man did nothing wrong other than publishing his information on many matters concerning human rights in Turkey. I will live it up to you to decide whether this man was a terrorist or not.All comments are welcome.

p.s im not saying that whatever he used to tell about Turkey was true but i dont think this guy diserved to die.If what he said were all lies then all Turkey had to do was to prove him wrong and NOT kill him.Also any strong proves that it wasnt Turkish spies that killed him are welcome.

The passport was made out in the name of Lazaros Mavros, a Greek Cypriot journalist who is a key member of a pro-Kurdish group based in capital Nicosia. Mavros himself avoided making any comment on the issue; "I will say whatever I have to say to the investigating officers,'' he told Sigma, a private television station.

Mavros, a well-known figure in Cyprus journalist circles, has headed the Kurdistan Solidarity Committee in Cyprus since its previous leader, Theofilos Georgiades, was gunned down outside his Nicosia home in 1994. His killers were never caught.

Security sources said it was too early in the inquiries to say whether Mavros had ever reported the passport as missing.

A brief statement issued after a hurriedly convened meeting of government officials in Nicosia merely said that police were carrying out an investigation. A government source said, "This is not a political issue for us...we just want to get to the bottom of it." There was "no chance'' of Ocalan ever being issued a Cypriot passport. "That is out of the question,'' the official said.

This is quote from http://www.nwc.navy.mil/balkans/SUM21521.htm.

My quick search in the web about this guy suggests me that this guy and his organisation was not only defending kurdish human rights in Turkey but was also involved in some serious relationships with PKK and Ocalan giving some lojistic support such as providing RoC passport

In these circumstances, I think Turkey's act is pure self-defence.

[Yiannis]

This is quote from http://www.nwc.navy.mil/balkans/SUM21521.htm.

This link is not working.

Well from what u quoted u really dont say anything about the person i was talking about (Theofilos Georgiades) and if ur point is that he was friend of PKK by being friend of Kurdish people then i dont think supporting the rights of Kurds is necesarily attacking Turkey and therefore Turkey should defend. Once again my point here is that this MAN dared to persue the truth and publish it (something that i want to persue too). As far as i know he didnt harm any innocent people. So what i want you to do is find me real facts that he indeed harm innocent people and therefore his death was necessary.

[detailer]

This is quote from http://www.nwc.navy.mil/balkans/SUM21521.htm.

This link is not working.

Well from what u quoted u really dont say anything about the person i was talking about (Theofilos Georgiades) and if ur point is that he was friend of PKK by being friend of Kurdish people then i dont think supporting the rights of Kurds is necesarily attacking Turkey and therefore Turkey should defend. Once again my point here is that this MAN dared to persue the truth and publish it (something that i want to persue too). As far as i know he didnt harm any innocent people. So what i want you to do is find me real facts that he indeed harm innocent people and therefore his death was necessary.

Another link
http://www.b-info.com/places/Turkey/new ... /aug15.tpr

I think it would be very diffucult to find hard evidence about this guy and you are distorting something; giving support to PKK (terorism)and defending kurdish rights are very different things.

But if he or his org didnt provide any "solid" help such as money, somewhere to stay... to PKK terorists, yes this is a murder by Turkey.

[Yiannis]

Another link
http://www.b-info.com/places/Turkey/new ... /aug15.tpr

Not quite what i was looking for since its clearly biased the same way as many greek articles i came up with.

I think it would be very diffucult to find hard evidence about this guy and you are distorting something; giving support to PKK (terorism)and defending kurdish rights are very different things.

Sorry u didnt get me right.What i meant is that supporting Kurds doesnt necesarily mean supporting PKK.

But if he or his org didnt provide any "solid" help such as money, somewhere to stay... to PKK terorists, yes this is a murder by Turkey.

This totally covers me Detailer eventhough it now raises me some other question.Lets say indeed this organization was providing some support to the PKK.Would that mean that Theofilos's purpose was to kill innocent people. Afterall it might have as well been the Kurdish members helping PKK and not himself. Point is should we totally blame Theofilos for whatever that organization was doing at the time and not see what his aim was?
Anyway i guess he only knew the right answer to this

[Murtaza]

This totally covers me Detailer eventhough it now raises me some other question.Lets say indeed this organization was providing some support to the PKK.Would that mean that Theofilos's purpose was to kill innocent people.

If he is supporting PKK, I dont think to kill him is wrong.I dont call anyone innocent who support PKK.

You greeks should realy realy stop to support everything agains Turks.

[RAFAELLA]

If he is supporting PKK, I dont think to kill him is wrong.I dont call anyone innocent who support PKK. .

Theofilos was a brave man who was murdered by coward turkish agents.
Well, you have to start killing people because there are millions out there who support kurdish people and their strugle. How quickly can you achieve that?

You greeks should realy realy stop to support everything agains Turks.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"...especialy when both, Gcs & Kurds, witnessed and suffer from turkish brutality.

How you can support people with such brutal instincts?... especialy when they are proud for their brutal insticts.
http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/photos.htm

*beware, the photos are schocking

[insan]

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"...especialy when both, Gcs & Kurds, witnessed and suffer from turkish brutality.

Ultra nationalist Hellenes and Kurds chose to go a brutal war with Turks. What could Turks do? Treat you like the angels?


Baware: the photos are photoshopped

[Murtaza]

Theofilos was a brave man who was murdered by coward turkish agents.
Well, you have to start killing people because there are millions out there who support kurdish people and their strugle. How quickly can you achieve that?

how coward that agents ? Isnt it?
Because he killed someone who help murderer of Turkish people.
NO, He support PKK not kurdish people, This two is complatly different.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"...especialy when both, Gcs & Kurds, witnessed and suffer from turkish brutality.

If you think Turks as your enemy, why do you want reunion with enemy?
what you feel If Turkey support a terorist organization?