bigOz wrote:Paphitis wrote:bigOz wrote:I do not understand why people react so vilely to facts when it hurts them. Is this GCs version of a civilised discussion (and some TCs I dare say)? The use of vile language to make a point is nothing more than a show of great weakness and incompetence. It does nothing but prove that the orator knows F-all about the subject!
As for Makarios, about 2 years ago, I did prove in a post by providing a link to a BBC TVs program about the work of old British intelligence that has become public after the 50 year confidentiality period had expired. THERE WAS IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE IN THE HANDS OF BRITISH SECRET SERVICE PROVING MAKARIOS TO BE A PEADOPHILE! Makarios who was a co-founder of EOKA at the time had always refused the idea of a Republic with TCs and demanded union with Greece from the departing British - UNTIL he was confronted with the evidence and blackmailed into accepting a Cyprus Republic!
If people still persist on these foolish arguments, and have no skills on searchiung the internet for some factual information then I shall try and find the URL for this compelling program - so that they can watch the video footing for themselves!
Why don't you release this "irrefutable" evidence from the British Secret Service.
Please note that most of us have heard about the rumors and innuendos emanating from the British, but how is this "irrefutable" evidence that Makarios was a Pedophile?
I want to see the declassified British Document that claims Makarios was a Pedophile. Go on Big Oz - where is this irrefutable evidence?
Sorry for the late reply bur some of us have other things to do besides educating our GC counter-parts!
Re Paphitis, those who have known me in this forum know very well that I do not bullshit! I never make a claim I cannot back up from independent sources. Those who challenged me in the past have always ended up embarassing themselves... Hence for all those who wanted the evidence watch this originally Channel-5 documentary (which in essence has always been anti-Turkish in its programs/documentaries) on the subject, which was repeated on the History Channel:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2005/0 ... 306151.phpIf you do not wish to watch the whole program, the Makarios bit is around the 31st munite of the 47 minute video - just move forward. It is a 27 MB video film and I recommend you download free Real Player video player to see it if Window's Media Video player does not recognise it. Just enter "free real player download" into your search box with google and you can download the player easyly by following on screen instructions.
The doc was based on recently released British Intelligence MI5 and MI6 during 2005. As far as I am concerned the evidence is damning and irrefutable. It had been under lock and key for more than 40 year and come from recorded top secret observations/operations. It was not made for Makarios but his preferences and the way he was used are detailed amongst many of the things that surfaced at the time!
Anyway ENJOY!As for Oracle's comments on Muslim religion and young boys, I shall endevour to embarass her too, by providing the activities within the Christian Church over the past decades. They biast the biggest bunch of peadophiles in history ranging from South Africa to North, into Europe and Middle East - Not leaving out the Vatican itself!GO ON ORACLE, MY SWEET "EOKA HEROINE" MAKE MY DAY AND CHALLENGE ME! XXX
I always suspected that this was a possibility, but what you present above is not irrefutable evidence that Makarios was a Pedophile!
Some bozo saying he was a pedophile on the History channel is NOT irrefutable evidence. Since you claim that MI5 and MI6 recently released documents that Makarios is a pedophile, then these declassified documents MUST be available somewhere. So where are they?
I too had read a book which basically stated the same thing, but once again not providing any credible evidence to prove this disgusting assertion.
I challenge you to provide a link to the MI5 and MI6 documents and not some cheap doco on History Channel... :roll: