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[boomerang]

but we got a better deal knucklehead...we got the turks in discussing a solution...unlike in the past when might is right mentality and the problem was solved in 74...

[insan]

It was a mistake according to those political groups who support Turkish accession to EU. It wasn't a mistake for that political group, namely Christian Democrats that doesn't support Turkey's EU accession.

But what about according to Cypriots who are ALL EU citizens if we want to be? Why is it a mistake for us?

In the begining there were some political groups that against EU accession of "RoC" before solution of the problem but Greece together with other political groups blackmailed with vetoing the accession of other then the EU candidates and "RoC" was accepted to EU before a solution to Cyprus problem found.

I know the standard party line on this issue as used by Turkey. But securing EU rights for all Cypriots... why isn't that a goof thing for you, as a Cypriot? Can you forget Turkey for one minute?

The Cypriot, there r various political self-interest groups within Cypriots too. U as an individual and ur alikes constitute just a small minority in Cyprus.(actually u r not even in Cyprus.)

We TCs mostly trust Bananiot alike GCs who have almost no prejudiced minds, respect our political equality on community basis, comprehend the realities which arise from our historical background, aware of the realities that we need to start from somewhere most feasible.

I as a person who is aware of everything revolves around the interests of those who r economically and politically stronger; I'm sure TCs without political and economic power would be surpassed by merciless, capitalist, nationalist, political interest groups of GCs and Greeks. Ordinary GCs and mostly nationalist GCs and Greeks r still very prejudiced towards Turks and Turkish descendents; no matter if we r converted, mixed blood or not direct descendents of Turks. As long as someone is not in same nationalist line with those ordinary GCs and Greeks, we r either barbarian, greedy Turks or unwanted creatures. If we r all Cypriots why shall I or other TCs accept the nationalist line of GCs?

I'm a TC that have no strong or loose ties with any of the political interest groups but I believe that without Turkey's economic and military support TCs can't manage to survive as a community, maintaining it's TC culture, language, history, traditions etc; in Cyprus.

Until Bananiot alike GCs become vast majority of GCs i won't change my mind.

[insan]

U can call it the collaboration of mutual interests between GC-Greek duo and Christian Democrats that don't want Turkey's EU accession.

But you are totally wrong. It is Greek and Cypriot policy to admit Turkey into the EU. It is the rest of Europe that is opposed. We are your only friends! Of course we are acting out of self-interest as we believe it will do you good to become accountable to Western values and principles. But Turkey is a long way off from accession. In fact, it can't even get past the first hurdle of opening its ports to an EU member! How useless is that?

Actions speak louder than words. We believe in actions.

[Hermes]

I'm a TC that have no strong or loose ties with any of the political interest groups but I believe that without Turkey's economic and military support TCs can't manage to survive as a community, maintaining it's TC culture, language, history, traditions etc; in Cyprus.

Forgive me, insan, but with the "support" of the Turkish military you have no country, no passport, no economy and no future. While the T/Cs are now a minority in their own illegal state. Is this what you think of as "survival"?

[boomerang]

It was a mistake according to those political groups who support Turkish accession to EU. It wasn't a mistake for that political group, namely Christian Democrats that doesn't support Turkey's EU accession.

But what about according to Cypriots who are ALL EU citizens if we want to be? Why is it a mistake for us?

In the begining there were some political groups that against EU accession of "RoC" before solution of the problem but Greece together with other political groups blackmailed with vetoing the accession of other then the EU candidates and "RoC" was accepted to EU before a solution to Cyprus problem found.

I know the standard party line on this issue as used by Turkey. But securing EU rights for all Cypriots... why isn't that a goof thing for you, as a Cypriot? Can you forget Turkey for one minute?

The Cypriot, there r various political self-interest groups within Cypriots too. U as an individual and ur alikes constitute just a small minority in Cyprus.(actually u r not even in Cyprus.)

We TCs mostly trust Bananiot alike GCs who have almost no prejudiced minds, respect our political equality on community basis, comprehend the realities which arise from our historical background, aware of the realities that we need to start from somewhere most feasible.

I as a person who is aware of everything revolves around the interests of those who r economically and politically stronger; I'm sure TCs without political and economic power would be surpassed by merciless, capitalist, nationalist, political interest groups of GCs and Greeks. Ordinary GCs and mostly nationalist GCs and Greeks r still very prejudiced towards Turks and Turkish descendents; no matter if we r converted, mixed blood or not direct descendents of Turks. As long as someone is not in same nationalist line with those ordinary GCs and Greeks, we r either barbarian, greedy Turks or unwanted creatures. If we r all Cypriots why shall I or other TCs accept the nationalist line of GCs?

I'm a TC that have no strong or loose ties with any of the political interest groups but I believe that without Turkey's economic and military support TCs can't manage to survive as a community, maintaining it's TC culture, language, history, traditions etc; in Cyprus.

Until Bananiot alike GCs become vast majority of GCs i won't change my mind.

I'm a TC that have no strong or loose ties with any of the political interest groups but I believe that without Turkey's economic and military support TCs can't manage to survive as a community, maintaining it's TC culture, language, history, traditions etc; in Cyprus.

yeah right, and if my grandma had balls I would call her granddad...

for starters as a community you are finished since in you are outnumbered...

You can have bananiot and we will take kikapu any tick of the clock because his mind is far more advanced that what yours and bananiot's...

Unlike you, even though you preach capitalism and globalisism, you have no clue what actually these two words mean titty man...

If you were to beleive these terms, you will know as a societey we evolving towards intergration with no borders, and bastardising everything along the way...

But here you are contradicting yourself to the max by talking out of the wrong cavity titty man...

[insan]

I'm a TC that have no strong or loose ties with any of the political interest groups but I believe that without Turkey's economic and military support TCs can't manage to survive as a community, maintaining it's TC culture, language, history, traditions etc; in Cyprus.

Forgive me, insan, but with the "support" of the Turkish military you have no country, no passport, no economy and no future. While the T/Cs are now a minority in their own illegal state. Is this what you think of as "survival"?

U say this from ur own perspective. From my perspective it's different. What Turkish military has to do with our economy etc.? Neither in a united Cyprus nor if TRNC was a recognized entity, overwhelming majority of TCs considered/would consider Turkish military suport as an obstacle or threat towards TC economy, passport etc.

We don't consider Cyprus born settler's children or those who came Cyprus 35-30 or 20 years ago as a threat to our existence and/or political will. We don't feel ourselves as a minority among those people. Even it's too hard to distinguish them from native TCs.

[insan]

It was a mistake according to those political groups who support Turkish accession to EU. It wasn't a mistake for that political group, namely Christian Democrats that doesn't support Turkey's EU accession.

But what about according to Cypriots who are ALL EU citizens if we want to be? Why is it a mistake for us?

In the begining there were some political groups that against EU accession of "RoC" before solution of the problem but Greece together with other political groups blackmailed with vetoing the accession of other then the EU candidates and "RoC" was accepted to EU before a solution to Cyprus problem found.

I know the standard party line on this issue as used by Turkey. But securing EU rights for all Cypriots... why isn't that a goof thing for you, as a Cypriot? Can you forget Turkey for one minute?

The Cypriot, there r various political self-interest groups within Cypriots too. U as an individual and ur alikes constitute just a small minority in Cyprus.(actually u r not even in Cyprus.)

We TCs mostly trust Bananiot alike GCs who have almost no prejudiced minds, respect our political equality on community basis, comprehend the realities which arise from our historical background, aware of the realities that we need to start from somewhere most feasible.

I as a person who is aware of everything revolves around the interests of those who r economically and politically stronger; I'm sure TCs without political and economic power would be surpassed by merciless, capitalist, nationalist, political interest groups of GCs and Greeks. Ordinary GCs and mostly nationalist GCs and Greeks r still very prejudiced towards Turks and Turkish descendents; no matter if we r converted, mixed blood or not direct descendents of Turks. As long as someone is not in same nationalist line with those ordinary GCs and Greeks, we r either barbarian, greedy Turks or unwanted creatures. If we r all Cypriots why shall I or other TCs accept the nationalist line of GCs?

I'm a TC that have no strong or loose ties with any of the political interest groups but I believe that without Turkey's economic and military support TCs can't manage to survive as a community, maintaining it's TC culture, language, history, traditions etc; in Cyprus.

Until Bananiot alike GCs become vast majority of GCs i won't change my mind.

I'm a TC that have no strong or loose ties with any of the political interest groups but I believe that without Turkey's economic and military support TCs can't manage to survive as a community, maintaining it's TC culture, language, history, traditions etc; in Cyprus.

yeah right, and if my grandma had balls I would call her granddad...

for starters as a community you are finished since in you are outnumbered...

You can have bananiot and we will take kikapu any tick of the clock because his mind is far more advanced that what yours and bananiot's...

Unlike you, even though you preach capitalism and globalisism, you have no clue what actually these two words mean titty man...

If you were to beleive these terms, you will know as a societey we evolving towards intergration with no borders, and bastardising everything along the way...

But here you are contradicting yourself to the max by talking out of the wrong cavity titty man...

Pure Galimatias. Open ur doors to integration with Turkey then... Yemez?

[Hermes]

U say this from ur own perspective. From my perspective it's different. What Turkish military has to do with our economy etc.? Neither in a united Cyprus nor if TRNC was a recognized entity, overwhelming majority of TCs considered/would consider Turkish military suport as an obstacle or threat towards TC economy, passport etc.

So how is your economy doing? And more to the point, in which direction is it going? Let me tell you, not even Turkey can bail you out any longer. You can't survive on your own because your economy is fucked. And Turkey can't support you anymore because it wants to join the EU - and if it doesn't get out of Cyprus we will sue their arses off.

So you will have to wean yourselves off Mama Turks' tit because it is running dry. No more sour milk for you, I'm afraid. Yes, it's going to be hard to grow up and be self-sufficient. But look across the Green Line and see how it's done. It takes hard work, initiative, self-confidence and intelligence. So you'd better learn some quick...

[boomerang]

It was a mistake according to those political groups who support Turkish accession to EU. It wasn't a mistake for that political group, namely Christian Democrats that doesn't support Turkey's EU accession.

But what about according to Cypriots who are ALL EU citizens if we want to be? Why is it a mistake for us?

In the begining there were some political groups that against EU accession of "RoC" before solution of the problem but Greece together with other political groups blackmailed with vetoing the accession of other then the EU candidates and "RoC" was accepted to EU before a solution to Cyprus problem found.

I know the standard party line on this issue as used by Turkey. But securing EU rights for all Cypriots... why isn't that a goof thing for you, as a Cypriot? Can you forget Turkey for one minute?

The Cypriot, there r various political self-interest groups within Cypriots too. U as an individual and ur alikes constitute just a small minority in Cyprus.(actually u r not even in Cyprus.)

We TCs mostly trust Bananiot alike GCs who have almost no prejudiced minds, respect our political equality on community basis, comprehend the realities which arise from our historical background, aware of the realities that we need to start from somewhere most feasible.

I as a person who is aware of everything revolves around the interests of those who r economically and politically stronger; I'm sure TCs without political and economic power would be surpassed by merciless, capitalist, nationalist, political interest groups of GCs and Greeks. Ordinary GCs and mostly nationalist GCs and Greeks r still very prejudiced towards Turks and Turkish descendents; no matter if we r converted, mixed blood or not direct descendents of Turks. As long as someone is not in same nationalist line with those ordinary GCs and Greeks, we r either barbarian, greedy Turks or unwanted creatures. If we r all Cypriots why shall I or other TCs accept the nationalist line of GCs?

I'm a TC that have no strong or loose ties with any of the political interest groups but I believe that without Turkey's economic and military support TCs can't manage to survive as a community, maintaining it's TC culture, language, history, traditions etc; in Cyprus.

Until Bananiot alike GCs become vast majority of GCs i won't change my mind.

I'm a TC that have no strong or loose ties with any of the political interest groups but I believe that without Turkey's economic and military support TCs can't manage to survive as a community, maintaining it's TC culture, language, history, traditions etc; in Cyprus.

yeah right, and if my grandma had balls I would call her granddad...

for starters as a community you are finished since in you are outnumbered...

You can have bananiot and we will take kikapu any tick of the clock because his mind is far more advanced that what yours and bananiot's...

Unlike you, even though you preach capitalism and globalisism, you have no clue what actually these two words mean titty man...

If you were to beleive these terms, you will know as a societey we evolving towards intergration with no borders, and bastardising everything along the way...

But here you are contradicting yourself to the max by talking out of the wrong cavity titty man...

Pure Galimatias. Open ur doors to integration with Turkey then... Yemez?

You are a nationalistic fool titty man...I live and breath intergration since I reside in a melting pot society, unlike you restricted to illetarary coffee shop mentality...

I have no problem with dealing with turks...I don't see them as animals expecting safeguards...Further more I am always looking to expand in business and I see Turkey as a developing country ripe for me to do business titty man...

As far as intergration, allow turkey in becoming civilised where, and this is an unfamiliar term to you, for the rule of law to mature...

Titty man why do you think turkey wants intergration with the EU...if she achieves it intergration will happen titty man...but as I say in my SIG you having a mind is a fiction of your own imagination...

[insan]

We have totally diferent perspectives.