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[The Cypriot]

There has to be some restriction for a while. This union cannot happen in one go, it will have to be in stages. Its not just that people will not get on, those who do not want peace will distroy it in no time. I mean the grey wolves and the southern dawn lot. Which is why it has to be in steps of closer union.

I don't disagree.... and the extremists simply have to be marginalised, outlawed as far as is possible, as they are in all other civilised societies.

[Viewpoint]

I was though! And I suspect nor were you and most people on this forum.

They'd have to be 50 and over so that's almost certainly the case.

I appreciate what you must have lived through YFred but you're far more empathetic than VP in your engagement with whom you perceive to be the 'other' side. It annoys me (that word again) when people hark back to the 50's or 60s as an excuse for why the human rights of Cypriots TODAY, who may not even have been born, should be restricted.

I am the generation born into the conflict if even from a far and can vaguely remember the events of 1974 being reported on British TV. Do you ever consider that you are just as or may even more annoying to me, its not a one way street..I find you pompous, sacastic and immature. Was that constructive enough?

[Viewpoint]

Well what a week eh?

One thing that's been reaffirmed to me is that our Noble Cause is a just one cos once again another aspect of it has been tested and passed A+ in another of the world's great courts so that there is still Great Hope for a unitary state in which the Rights of All are respected.

This week has shown all Free Men/Women that there is still everything to play for. Just keep Pres X away from any pens for a while longer.

All the paper work but no goods eh bill?

[YFred]

There has to be some restriction for a while. This union cannot happen in one go, it will have to be in stages. Its not just that people will not get on, those who do not want peace will distroy it in no time. I mean the grey wolves and the southern dawn lot. Which is why it has to be in steps of closer union.

I don't disagree.... and the extremists simply have to be marginalised, outlawed as far as is possible, as they are in all other civilised societies.

Totally agree, but in both communities they occupy important positions of power. It is against their interests. Marginalising them is not easy.
For instance recently a TC was attacked in the south and when in court the references by the judge and the defence lawyer of the Golden Dawn boy's lawyer horrified me. It took me back to 1963. While these people are running the Police, Courts and the Prosecution service, we have no chance, it will fall apart in no time. By the way he attacked in front of witnesses, but got away with it. That is the most worrying aspect of how it will fall apart. There is no confidence.

[Viewpoint]

There has to be some restriction for a while. This union cannot happen in one go, it will have to be in stages. Its not just that people will not get on, those who do not want peace will distroy it in no time. I mean the grey wolves and the southern dawn lot. Which is why it has to be in steps of closer union.

I don't disagree.... and the extremists simply have to be marginalised, outlawed as far as is possible, as they are in all other civilised societies.

Totally agree, but in both communities they occupy important positions of power. It is against their interests. Marginalising them is not easy.
For instance recently a TC was attacked in the south and when in court the references by the judge and the defence lawyer of the Golden Dawn boy's lawyer horrified me. It took me back to 1963. While these people are running the Police, Courts and the Prosecution service, we have no chance, it will fall apart in no time. By the way he attacked in front of witnesses, but got away with it. That is the most worrying aspect of how it will fall apart. There is no confidence.

Was the same in 1963 and would be the same in a united Cyprus if there are not enough rigid laws to ensure it does not.

[Oracle]

There has to be some restriction for a while. This union cannot happen in one go, it will have to be in stages. Its not just that people will not get on, those who do not want peace will distroy it in no time. I mean the grey wolves and the southern dawn lot. Which is why it has to be in steps of closer union.

I don't disagree.... and the extremists simply have to be marginalised, outlawed as far as is possible, as they are in all other civilised societies.

Totally agree, but in both communities they occupy important positions of power. It is against their interests. Marginalising them is not easy.
For instance recently a TC was attacked in the south and when in court the references by the judge and the defence lawyer of the Golden Dawn boy's lawyer horrified me. It took me back to 1963. While these people are running the Police, Courts and the Prosecution service, we have no chance, it will fall apart in no time. By the way he attacked in front of witnesses, but got away with it. That is the most worrying aspect of how it will fall apart. There is no confidence.

Yes, you have no confidence in the ECJ either. Basically, you don't accept any ruling going against you ... you are always 'innocent'!

[bill cobbett]

Well what a week eh?

One thing that's been reaffirmed to me is that our Noble Cause is a just one cos once again another aspect of it has been tested and passed A+ in another of the world's great courts so that there is still Great Hope for a unitary state in which the Rights of All are respected.

This week has shown all Free Men/Women that there is still everything to play for. Just keep Pres X away from any pens for a while longer.

All the paper work but no goods eh bill?

Paper work? Oh yes vp I am pleased to see that you appreciate we have the necessary paper-work, the Real Kochania to the Occupied North which are reaffirmed time and time again by the world's courts leaving you with your wet partitionist dreams and nothing more. Enjoy yourselves.

[The Cypriot]

Do you ever consider that you are just as or may even more annoying to me,

Am I really more annoying than others who you consider to be on the other 'side'? Or are they equally annoying? Or have I just rattled your cage tonight and you're pulling my hair to get your own back?

its not a one way street..I find you pompous, sacastic and immature.

You're only saying that 'cos I rattled your cage. Pompous and immature? At the same time? (This is me being sarcastic)

Was that constructive enough?

No that was more annoying rubbish. Forget it. You're a lost cause.

[YFred]

There has to be some restriction for a while. This union cannot happen in one go, it will have to be in stages. Its not just that people will not get on, those who do not want peace will distroy it in no time. I mean the grey wolves and the southern dawn lot. Which is why it has to be in steps of closer union.

I don't disagree.... and the extremists simply have to be marginalised, outlawed as far as is possible, as they are in all other civilised societies.

Totally agree, but in both communities they occupy important positions of power. It is against their interests. Marginalising them is not easy.
For instance recently a TC was attacked in the south and when in court the references by the judge and the defence lawyer of the Golden Dawn boy's lawyer horrified me. It took me back to 1963. While these people are running the Police, Courts and the Prosecution service, we have no chance, it will fall apart in no time. By the way he attacked in front of witnesses, but got away with it. That is the most worrying aspect of how it will fall apart. There is no confidence.

Yes, you have no confidence in the ECJ either. Basically, you don't accept any ruling going against you ... you are always 'innocent'!

ECJ is that the mad cow disease?

The whole of the International law and its implementation since the second world war has been an ass. It mainly serves the interest of the five permanent security member of the un.

As far as I am concerned of course I am innocent, I attacked no one, I have nobody else’s land, and they have mine, I am guilty of what exactly?

[EricSeans]

What a pity you are unworthy of your great-uncle's bravery. Stop sullying his memory with your self-centred justifications.

All very polite, courteous well mannered replies to a new member to your forum, such is the life of expatriate Pomes! PS Gallipoli is the Brit spelling, Gelibolu is the correct one where my Great Uncle died at ANZC cove because of your wonderful leaders Churchill, Hamilton, Keyes, Kitchener etc.