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[Sotos]

So that gives you a right to condone a revolt against the state,...

No of course it gave us no such rights. It is however a clear example of Makrios ignoring legality with which to refute Piratis' absurd claim that 'GC did nothing that was not 100% legal'.

It also shows how absurd the argument that if TC had issues with the behaviour of GC leadership they should have gone to courts to settle them. They did go to court. Makrios refused to abide by the couts decisions and said that is what he would do before the court had even ruled. This led to the resignation of Professor Ernst Forsthoff, the then and last ever neutral judge of the supreme consitutional court of the RoC.

In an interview Mr Forsthoff gave to UPI on the 30th Dec 1963 he said

"All this [outbreak of communal violence in Cyprus] happened because Makarios wanted to remove all consitutuional rights from the Turkish Cypriots. From the moment Makarios started to openly deprive the Turkish Cypriots of their rights, the present events were inevitable."

Then again what could an internationaly respected neutral professor of law and former judge of the supreme consitutional court of the RoC know about such things compare to Che Pirtatis. Clearly the man was an inperialist lackey of the British dogs, placed in Cyprus by them to spread lies and flasehoods against the noble and long suffering GC people. That Makrios agreed his appointment should in no way imply that he was anything other than this, for we all know that the visionary Makarios, so ahead of his times, could 100% legaly ignore any rulings that the court under this man made at will.

Erolz is bothered with the 100% legal thing when what they are doing is 100% illegal Even if what we did was 99% legal that is still infinity more legal than what they did and do!

[erolz3]

When a country deteriorates into ethnic war, and there is a break down of law and order, shit tends to happens. That does not mean that anyone that belongs to the same ethnic group as a small group of psychopathic criminals who take advantage of the collapse and commit crimes, collectively share the guilt for their actions.

Once again. The point of relating this story was to point out the absudity of the claim by Che Piratis that 'GC did nothing to TC that was not 100% legal'.

OK Got that bit? Understood it ?

So lets assume that we are talking about the GC leadership. Now if this murder had been the act of psychopatic criminals with no connection to the GC leadership, and in response to their acts the GC leadership condemed these crimes and actively sought the trial and prosecution of these criminals then your argument that it is not fair to jusdge that GC as sharing the guilt for these crimes might haver some validlity.

However when the reality is that these psychopatic criminals as you call them are being run out of and by the INTERIOR MINISTER of the GC leadership, the chief psychopatic criminal in sitting (also known as chief Akritas)it somewhat undermines the argument that that GC leadership has no share in the guilt for these crimes. It was a member of that leadership that was running them.

It also shows the ridiculousness of the claim by Che that 'GC [leadership] did nothing to TC that was not 100% legal'

[erolz3]

Be honest, Erol, which site did you cut and paste this particular quotation from?

Do you doubt the accuracy of the quote ?

[erolz3]

Erolz is bothered with the 100% legal thing ....

Total bollocks being passed off as objective truth does tend to bother me, I am funny that way.

[Viewpoint]

erolz dont go anywhere we need you as we are greatly out numbered by GC despots who think they know everything and believe their own lies.

[polis]

Once again. The point of relating this story was to point out the absudity of the claim by Che Piratis that 'GC did nothing to TC that was not 100% legal'.

OK Got that bit? Understood it ?

Did you understand the reference to collective guilt or were you again not bothered to open your dictionary?

However when the reality is that these psychopatic criminals as you call them are being run out of and by the INTERIOR MINISTER of the GC leadership

I'm not going to get drugged into a discussion with you on historical facts, Erol, but actually, for what it's worth, they weren't acting on the orders of the Cyprus leadership, or Giorgadjis for that matter.

[polis]

Be honest, Erol, which site did you cut and paste this particular quotation from?

Do you doubt the accuracy of the quote ?

Ok, let me ask you one more time: can you give us the particular site you cut and pasted that particular quotation from or are you ashamed of your sources?

[erolz3]

Ok, let me ask you one more time: can you give us the particular site you cut and pasted that particular quotation from or are you ashamed of your sources?

The source for the quote that was eaisest for me to put my hands on was not a website but a book 'Excerpta Cypria' produced by the friends of north cyprus parliamentary group (UK).

I have shown you mine now will you show me yours ?

Do you doubt the accuracy of this quote ?

[Sotos]

Erolz is bothered with the 100% legal thing ....

Total bollocks being passed off as objective truth does tend to bother me, I am funny that way.

The objective truth is that you are convicted criminals looking for ways to hide from justice.

[Sotos]

So that gives you a right to condone a revolt against the state,...

In an interview Mr Forsthoff gave to UPI on the 30th Dec 1963 he said

"All this [outbreak of communal violence in Cyprus] happened because Makarios wanted to remove all consitutuional rights from the Turkish Cypriots. From the moment Makarios started to openly deprive the Turkish Cypriots of their rights, the present events were inevitable."

Be honest, Erol, which site did you cut and paste this particular quotation from?

First of all who the fuck is Forsthoff ? This guy: http://www.forsthoff.com/