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[Raymanoff]

Bad Cheque sent to Mrs.Blair didnt help either... probably Mr.Blair called guys in ECJ to return a favor

[YFred]

From what I gather all that remains is a rubber stamping exercise. The Court of Appeal in London is expected to endorse the ECJ decision in a matter of weeks and then it's all over for the Orams's assets in the UK.

Wait and see how things will unfold. How long will it take for you to become disheartened?

I'll give them 48 hours and that's being generous, to see how hollow this victory is. It’s a bit like a balloon, one little prick like Bumbolla boy and it will go puff in the air.

[Viewpoint]

Just got in and wanted some entertainment so I logged onto www.cyprus44.com but it's asking for username and password? Very strange....

Must have to many GCs going in and stiring things up.

[bill cobbett]

This one is for all of you especially VP's secretary. Turn up the volume boys and girls and enjoy the evening.

I am so happy that I'm going all religious......





(OMG, perhaps there is a God after all )

[Viewpoint]

From what I gather all that remains is a rubber stamping exercise. The Court of Appeal in London is expected to endorse the ECJ decision in a matter of weeks and then it's all over for the Orams's assets in the UK.

Wait and see how things will unfold. How long will it take for you to become disheartened?

I'll give them 48 hours and that's being generous, to see how hollow this victory is. It’s a bit like a balloon, one little prick like Bumbolla boy and it will go puff in the air.

Let them have their little moment, nothing will change viva la TRNC.

[Raymanoff]

http://sigmalive.com/news/politics/147645

[Get Real!]

Hello everybody, I have been away from this forum for some time but nothing has changed really. The same ignorant lot with a few exceptions.

Just let me remind you that this is not the end of the road as far as Orams are concerned.
ECJ: This is the supreme court to decide on EU law and its application. It is a kind of Constitutional Court over every court in member countries. Hoever it is not a court of appeal i.e. it does not decide if the judgement of the court of a member country was just or proper or not. So ECJ has ruled that ROC court judgements are enforcable in all member countries even if that judgement deals about a property outside its control i.e. TRNC.

ECHR: European Court of Human Rights is an organ of the Council of Europe set up after WW2 and includes Ukraine, Russia, Turkey etc. This court in effect acts as a court of appeal as far as European Charter of Human Rights is concerned. It is a fact that the house in dispute is within the boundaries of TRNC and Orams have not infringed any laws of TRNC. Irrespective of international recognition, everybody have to abide by the laws of the country they live in. ROC court ordered Orams to demolish the said house but they would be breaking TRNC law if they did this. Orams also argue that they were not given a fair chance to defend themselves. Furthermore ROC courts cannot be considered to be unbiased in this matter and hence a fair trial is in question. Also bear in mind that ECHR has ruled that the Compensation Board of TRNC is a valid local remedy. With all these considerations in mind, Orams have a good chance to succeed at ECHR with their case against ROC.

Putting the above to one side, now the UK court of appeal will decide if the ROC judgement can be enforced in UK. No doubt they will have to abide by the decision of ECJ but such enforcement is subject to certain EU regulations. Public policy is one of them but there are others too. So nothing is final yet and these comments above and I am sorry to say show nothing but widespread ignorance.
ismet

“The Court of Justice

Its job is to make sure that EU legislation is interpreted and applied in the same way in all EU countries, so that the law is equal for everyone. It ensures, for example, that national courts do not give different rulings on the same issue.

The Court also makes sure that EU member states and institutions do what the law requires. The Court has the power to settle legal disputes between EU member states, EU institutions, businesses and individuals.”

http://europa.eu/institutions/inst/justice/index_en.htm

If anything, this IS the court that will ensure the law is enforced Europe-wide against the Orams if anyone plays up, and one of the Court's judges is a Greek Cypriot lawyer, and the court’s current president also happens to be a Greek national!

It’s over grandpa… a crime is a crime!

[Viewpoint]

Hello everybody, I have been away from this forum for some time but nothing has changed really. The same ignorant lot with a few exceptions.

Just let me remind you that this is not the end of the road as far as Orams are concerned.
ECJ: This is the supreme court to decide on EU law and its application. It is a kind of Constitutional Court over every court in member countries. Hoever it is not a court of appeal i.e. it does not decide if the judgement of the court of a member country was just or proper or not. So ECJ has ruled that ROC court judgements are enforcable in all member countries even if that judgement deals about a property outside its control i.e. TRNC.

ECHR: European Court of Human Rights is an organ of the Council of Europe set up after WW2 and includes Ukraine, Russia, Turkey etc. This court in effect acts as a court of appeal as far as European Charter of Human Rights is concerned. It is a fact that the house in dispute is within the boundaries of TRNC and Orams have not infringed any laws of TRNC. Irrespective of international recognition, everybody have to abide by the laws of the country they live in. ROC court ordered Orams to demolish the said house but they would be breaking TRNC law if they did this. Orams also argue that they were not given a fair chance to defend themselves. Furthermore ROC courts cannot be considered to be unbiased in this matter and hence a fair trial is in question. Also bear in mind that ECHR has ruled that the Compensation Board of TRNC is a valid local remedy. With all these considerations in mind, Orams have a good chance to succeed at ECHR with their case against ROC.

Putting the above to one side, now the UK court of appeal will decide if the ROC judgement can be enforced in UK. No doubt they will have to abide by the decision of ECJ but such enforcement is subject to certain EU regulations. Public policy is one of them but there are others too. So nothing is final yet and these comments above and I am sorry to say show nothing but widespread ignorance.
ismet

“The Court of Justice

Its job is to make sure that EU legislation is interpreted and applied in the same way in all EU countries, so that the law is equal for everyone. It ensures, for example, that national courts do not give different rulings on the same issue.

The Court also makes sure that EU member states and institutions do what the law requires. The Court has the power to settle legal disputes between EU member states, EU institutions, businesses and individuals.”

http://europa.eu/institutions/inst/justice/index_en.htm

If anything, this IS the court that will ensure the law is enforced Europe-wide against the Orams if anyone plays up, and one of the Court's judges is a Greek Cypriot lawyer, and the court’s current president also happens to be a Greek national!

It’s over grandpa… a crime is a crime!

What will chnage if Brits do not have assets in the UK?

[Oracle]

Hello everybody, I have been away from this forum for some time but nothing has changed really. The same ignorant lot with a few exceptions.

Just let me remind you that this is not the end of the road as far as Orams are concerned.
ECJ: This is the supreme court to decide on EU law and its application. It is a kind of Constitutional Court over every court in member countries. Hoever it is not a court of appeal i.e. it does not decide if the judgement of the court of a member country was just or proper or not. So ECJ has ruled that ROC court judgements are enforcable in all member countries even if that judgement deals about a property outside its control i.e. TRNC.

ECHR: European Court of Human Rights is an organ of the Council of Europe set up after WW2 and includes Ukraine, Russia, Turkey etc. This court in effect acts as a court of appeal as far as European Charter of Human Rights is concerned. It is a fact that the house in dispute is within the boundaries of TRNC and Orams have not infringed any laws of TRNC. Irrespective of international recognition, everybody have to abide by the laws of the country they live in. ROC court ordered Orams to demolish the said house but they would be breaking TRNC law if they did this. Orams also argue that they were not given a fair chance to defend themselves. Furthermore ROC courts cannot be considered to be unbiased in this matter and hence a fair trial is in question. Also bear in mind that ECHR has ruled that the Compensation Board of TRNC is a valid local remedy. With all these considerations in mind, Orams have a good chance to succeed at ECHR with their case against ROC.

Putting the above to one side, now the UK court of appeal will decide if the ROC judgement can be enforced in UK. No doubt they will have to abide by the decision of ECJ but such enforcement is subject to certain EU regulations. Public policy is one of them but there are others too. So nothing is final yet and these comments above and I am sorry to say show nothing but widespread ignorance.
ismet

“The Court of Justice

Its job is to make sure that EU legislation is interpreted and applied in the same way in all EU countries, so that the law is equal for everyone. It ensures, for example, that national courts do not give different rulings on the same issue.

The Court also makes sure that EU member states and institutions do what the law requires. The Court has the power to settle legal disputes between EU member states, EU institutions, businesses and individuals.”

http://europa.eu/institutions/inst/justice/index_en.htm

If anything, this IS the court that will ensure the law is enforced Europe-wide against the Orams if anyone plays up, and one of the Court's judges is a Greek Cypriot lawyer, and the court’s current president also happens to be a Greek national!

It’s over grandpa… a crime is a crime!

What will chnage if Brits do not have assets in the UK?

They'll stop receiving their Pensions (docked by UK government) and you VP, will have to make sure they don't starve!

[Raymanoff]

7 years in jail...