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British Couple Must Demolish Cyprus Home, EU Top Court Says

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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:27 pm

Raymanoff wrote:"Land Registry Department of the so-called Republic of Cyprus" - i cant read this, i wanna puke..


Yeah I feel the same when I read your posts.
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:29 pm

From what I gather all that remains is a rubber stamping exercise. The Court of Appeal in London is expected to endorse the ECJ decision in a matter of weeks and then it's all over for the Orams's assets in the UK.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:33 pm

elko wrote:Hello everybody, I have been away from this forum for some time but nothing has changed really. The same ignorant lot with a few exceptions.

Just let me remind you that this is not the end of the road as far as Orams are concerned.
ECJ: This is the supreme court to decide on EU law and its application. It is a kind of Constitutional Court over every court in member countries. Hoever it is not a court of appeal i.e. it does not decide if the judgement of the court of a member country was just or proper or not. So ECJ has ruled that ROC court judgements are enforcable in all member countries even if that judgement deals about a property outside its control i.e. TRNC.

ECHR: European Court of Human Rights is an organ of the Council of Europe set up after WW2 and includes Ukraine, Russia, Turkey etc. This court in effect acts as a court of appeal as far as European Charter of Human Rights is concerned. It is a fact that the house in dispute is within the boundaries of TRNC and Orams have not infringed any laws of TRNC. Irrespective of international recognition, everybody have to abide by the laws of the country they live in. ROC court ordered Orams to demolish the said house but they would be breaking TRNC law if they did this. Orams also argue that they were not given a fair chance to defend themselves. Furthermore ROC courts cannot be considered to be unbiased in this matter and hence a fair trial is in question. Also bear in mind that ECHR has ruled that the Compensation Board of TRNC is a valid local remedy. With all these considerations in mind, Orams have a good chance to succeed at ECHR with their case against ROC.

Putting the above to one side, now the UK court of appeal will decide if the ROC judgement can be enforced in UK. No doubt they will have to abide by the decision of ECJ but such enforcement is subject to certain EU regulations. Public policy is one of them but there are others too. So nothing is final yet and these comments above and I am sorry to say show nothing but widespread ignorance.
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I can't see any Brit ever trusting anything any Turk ever says ever again, EVER! :lol:
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Postby elko » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:35 pm

Hatter wrote:
You are not very well informed. There is nothing further for the UK court to decide. They have to enforce the decision.

ECJ only interprets EU law, it does not order anything. UK court cannot interpret otherwise but enforcement is not automatic as I explained above. I am sorry if you have a comprehension problem, not my fault :)
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Postby anna-sh » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:37 pm

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you will be surprised how many brits on the north will still believe the turks..... brainwashed all of them:)
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Postby Raymanoff » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:39 pm

Viewpoint, there is an option to hide my messages if you don't like reading them. What was wrong with my message this time? It makes me sick how close minded your nation is. SO CALLED REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS? Bloody hell people... Turkey should be embargoed for not recognizing "SO CALLED" Europe...
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Postby Z4 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:40 pm

Just got in and wanted some entertainment so I logged onto www.cyprus44.com but it's asking for username and password? Very strange....
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Postby Oracle » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:42 pm

anna-sh wrote:Oracle

you will be surprised how many brits on the north will still believe the turks..... brainwashed all of them:)


Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me! :roll:

Oh well, I'll save any incy-wincy morsel of sympathy that's trying to squeeze through ... :lol: On their heads be it ....
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:47 pm

The Cypriot wrote:From what I gather all that remains is a rubber stamping exercise. The Court of Appeal in London is expected to endorse the ECJ decision in a matter of weeks and then it's all over for the Orams's assets in the UK.


Wait and see how things will unfold. How long will it take for you to become disheartened?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:49 pm

Raymanoff wrote:Viewpoint, there is an option to hide my messages if you don't like reading them. What was wrong with my message this time? It makes me sick how close minded your nation is. SO CALLED REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS? Bloody hell people... Turkey should be embargoed for not recognizing "SO CALLED" Europe...


We and Turkey do not recognize the "RoC" because without us your are not complete, why are you so suprised?
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