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[polis]

And as a side note that Grivas admitted that if Turkey had not intervened then he would have wiped out all the Turkish Cypriots from the island.

Lovely thing about these forums is that you pay no tax for talking rubbish. Do you believe this nonsense or this it's just your pathetic excuse for being a thief and an apologist for crimes against humanity.

[Sotos]

Even thought we were given a crippled independence, we still managed to run Cyprus better than the Turks run Turkey.

That is right! In Cyprus there was one coup, in Turkey at least three! In the conflict between Turks and Kurds more than 40000 people died! The Kurds are denied their most basic human rights. The Greeks in mainland Turkey and Ibros and Tenedos islands were forced to emigrate. The Turkish jails are full with political prisoners. Their is no freedom of speech. They murder journalists, ban internet websites.... I could go on and on! And then they say they invaded us because we didn't run our country good enough? Please!! Such a stupid excuse coming from the barbarian Turks. They should sort out their own country first and then teach us! The reason Turks keep invading Cyprus and they keep bringing their settlers here is only one EXPANSIONISM

[Sotos]

Still looking for it. Property issue guys focus. I guess it is hard with all that patriotic zeal fogging your brains. All the crap I am trying to deflect in order to get a clear admission of whether you believe the Greek Cypriots are 100% justified in their actions and that what is happening is truly fair.

Ps. UN resolutions are no more than a popularity contest, you want to talk democracy then feed that argument throughout your answer, you want to talk about the rule of law, please do the same. Do not taint everything by the impact of the hard lobbying done by Greek Cypriots and Greece on your behalf.

What is happening is not fair at all! The Turks keep invading our island and bring their Settlers here and then they use their troops and their Settlers to take from us our rights and our properties.

The problem of Cyprus is the the expansionism of Turkey. It is a problem Cyprus has for more than 400 years!

Sotos, forget about 400 years ago. The TCs are in Cyprus now; and how do we proceed from here? Leave the repetitions to Piratis.

Today is no different. 400 years ago they invaded us and brought their Settlers and created the problem. Recently they invaded us again and they started bringing more Settlers again. The Turks continue to want to expand against us and they use their troops and their Settlers to do this.

[denizaksulu]

Still looking for it. Property issue guys focus. I guess it is hard with all that patriotic zeal fogging your brains. All the crap I am trying to deflect in order to get a clear admission of whether you believe the Greek Cypriots are 100% justified in their actions and that what is happening is truly fair.

Ps. UN resolutions are no more than a popularity contest, you want to talk democracy then feed that argument throughout your answer, you want to talk about the rule of law, please do the same. Do not taint everything by the impact of the hard lobbying done by Greek Cypriots and Greece on your behalf.

What is happening is not fair at all! The Turks keep invading our island and bring their Settlers here and then they use their troops and their Settlers to take from us our rights and our properties.

The problem of Cyprus is the the expansionism of Turkey. It is a problem Cyprus has for more than 400 years!

Sotos, forget about 400 years ago. The TCs are in Cyprus now; and how do we proceed from here? Leave the repetitions to Piratis.

Today is no different. 400 years ago they invaded us and brought their Settlers and created the problem. Recently they invaded us again and they started bringing more Settlers again. The Turks continue to want to expand against us and they use their troops and their Settlers to do this.

The nice guy I am, I am only concerned for your wellbeing. I dont want you getting any ulcers.

[Acikgoz]

Please find below my original post to which I have been interested to hear responses about.

I put it out there again as subsequent to posting I keep finding everyone commenting on issues as though they are writing for some pubescent comic book for neo-nazis.
- 400 years ago... what!!!
- Turkey's involvement... what!!!
etc. etc. a large helping of nationalistic xenophobic rants with decent helpings of put downs. Stick to the point

I am Cypriot born
I am talking about Turkish title deed holder of land in south.
etc.
STOP sidelining the issues




Unfortunately in your mind what's yours is yours and what's ours is yours; oh and not only in your mind from what I have been reading by most contributors on this site.

What about me. Get off my land, pay me rent since 1964 when we were threatened off it, pay me restitution to ease some of the pain for my relatives murdered in 1964 and the trauma of living in a hovel of an enclave away from my beautiful gardens by the Trodos mountains, and only in 1974 have the feeling that this 3rd class citizen and embargoes would end. Oh while you're at it pay me restıtution for the years I've suffered under an embargo post 1974 whilst watching the freedoms you have enjoyed, the opportunities your children have had. Admit this, and then you are worthy of being respected as a human being. Otherwise you are no more than a bigoted, racist, self-interested, freeloader, brain washed and/or naturally masochistic individual.


All this talk of who is the thieves of who's land - Remember a good quote from the bible John 8:7 "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." For a country where the church is a regular part of everyday life what a shame the true virtues of love, compasion and brotherhood are so far removed.

If we are talking about legality, rules, laws etc. and how this justifies our actions then how can one disregard the unconstitutional change of the constitution whilst basing one's position on UN resolutions. Remember this is not one side is right the other is wrong, both are right, both are wrong.

It is sad that there are so few on this forum that could be said to be true thinkers, it means to step up and admit to "yourself" the "truth", it's so easy if you only take a moment and think for yourself. Please just try.

[DT.]

Please find below my original post to which I have been interested to hear responses about.

I put it out there again as subsequent to posting I keep finding everyone commenting on issues as though they are writing for some pubescent comic book for neo-nazis.
- 400 years ago... what!!!
- Turkey's involvement... what!!!
etc. etc. a large helping of nationalistic xenophobic rants with decent helpings of put downs. Stick to the point

I am Cypriot born
I am talking about Turkish title deed holder of land in south.
etc.
STOP sidelining the issues




Unfortunately in your mind what's yours is yours and what's ours is yours; oh and not only in your mind from what I have been reading by most contributors on this site.

What about me. Get off my land, pay me rent since 1964 when we were threatened off it, pay me restitution to ease some of the pain for my relatives murdered in 1964 and the trauma of living in a hovel of an enclave away from my beautiful gardens by the Trodos mountains, and only in 1974 have the feeling that this 3rd class citizen and embargoes would end. Oh while you're at it pay me restıtution for the years I've suffered under an embargo post 1974 whilst watching the freedoms you have enjoyed, the opportunities your children have had. Admit this, and then you are worthy of being respected as a human being. Otherwise you are no more than a bigoted, racist, self-interested, freeloader, brain washed and/or naturally masochistic individual.


All this talk of who is the thieves of who's land - Remember a good quote from the bible John 8:7 "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." For a country where the church is a regular part of everyday life what a shame the true virtues of love, compasion and brotherhood are so far removed.

If we are talking about legality, rules, laws etc. and how this justifies our actions then how can one disregard the unconstitutional change of the constitution whilst basing one's position on UN resolutions. Remember this is not one side is right the other is wrong, both are right, both are wrong.

It is sad that there are so few on this forum that could be said to be true thinkers, it means to step up and admit to "yourself" the "truth", it's so easy if you only take a moment and think for yourself. Please just try.

Go on then true thinker...show us the way and tell us where the Turks went wrong.

[Acikgoz]

OK let's take a log of all those that are unwilling to comment on my personal rights and the wrongs committed to me.
1. DT

[Get Real!]

OK let's take a log of all those that are unwilling to comment on my personal rights and the wrongs committed to me.
1. DT

1963..74:

Why don’t you go to fat Donktosh and ask him to compensate you for encouraging Turkish Cypriots to foolishly abandon the government take up arms?


1974: 09

Why don’t you go to Turkey and ask them to compensate you for invading Cyprus and creating an illegal military enclave under which you suffered?

[DT.]

OK let's take a log of all those that are unwilling to comment on my personal rights and the wrongs committed to me.
1. DT

I havent seen you comment on my personal rights and wrongs committed to me. You've been here broadcasting your enlightenment and I'm giving you the chance. Start the ball rolling by telling us where you think the Turks committed crimes against the GC's.

[Viewpoint]

EU song contest result:

UK VOTE: Turkey = 12 points

I'd hate to see your phone-bill mate.

(welcome back, all well?)

Thank you!!!

All the phone calls in the world could not influence the POLITICAL voting in the EU song competition

The message has gone out nomatter what the venue!!!!

Long live the TRNC!

Great to see you back zan.

Thank you gardas. Hope to be around a bit more.

Long live the TRNC!!!

The meaning gets stronger every day.