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[miltiades]

Akikgoz, many G/Cs on this forum have posted numerous posts highlighting the fact that the G/Cs made huge errors starting from 1960 to 1974 . None of us believe that the current mess we are in is purely as a result of T/C behaviour.
What is also a reality , one that the entire world community agrees upon is that Turkey has been occupying a part of Cyprus having first expelled by force thousands of G/Cs and by illegally usurping their properties proceeded in importing into the occupied areas thousands upon thousands of Turkish settlers with one and only purpose , to alter the demographics of the area that by force she occupies.
Her paranoia regarding the recognition of the RoC , WHICH THE ENTIRE WORLD RECOGNIZES , is paramount to plain political nonsense and laughable .

[Piratis]

Makarios "The (Greek mainland) coup caused much bloodshed and took a great toll of human lives." How often have I heard Greek Cypriots castigate Greece for their missing?

Note from same comments "For some time talks were going on between the Greek and Turkish Cypriots in search of a peaceful solution to the Cyprus problem, which on many occasions has occupied the time of the Security Council and the General Assembly of the United Nations." How many times do you see that Turkey was the cause of the issues between the Turkish and Greek Cypriots.

Please, I ask humbly, as your harsh criticism only feels like excuses not to focus on the single point - any admission of Greek Cypriot wrong doing?

Several coups happened in Turkey as well. Should Greece or Russia used that as an excuse to invade Turkey in order to protect the Greek, Kurdish, Armenian etc minorities every time a coup was happening in Turkey?

The fact is that in 1974 no TC was killed until 20th of July when Turkey invaded. Therefore the coup is not an excuse for your crimes.

Several GCs died during the coup, but nowhere as many as the ones that were killed during the invasion. The general of the Junta who were responsible for the coup were jailed and punished for their crime.

The Cypriot people never invaded Turkey or any other country for that matter. You want to put blame on the Cypriots because some foreigners invade Cyprus to serve their own interests?

The Cypriots might not be perfect, nobody is, but we never did anything more than fight for our freedom from foreign invaders. Even thought we were given a crippled independence, we still managed to run Cyprus better than the Turks run Turkey.

Turkey is the reason the Cyprus Problem exists, since it is Turkey which keeps her troops on our island, violating the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus and ignores the UN resolutions.

[denizaksulu]

Grivas said that after the Kokkina aerial bombings?

The Kophinou and Ay. Theodoros incidents where Grivas over ran the two Villages in 1967. Naturally it could not have been said after 1974, so it must have been after Kophinou.

Makes no sense whatsoever Deniz... you forget that all agreed to a UN presence in 1964, so the UN are the ones who got involved with the Kophinou incidents, and I can’t imagine Makarios asking for Turkey to come too!

I know. Its seems a lot of quotes have been jumbled up into one argument. Out it down to lack of debating skills. I dont think there was an intention to mislead anyone.


Regards to the little one.

[Get Real!]

Grivas said that after the Kokkina aerial bombings?

The Kophinou and Ay. Theodoros incidents where Grivas over ran the two Villages in 1967. Naturally it could not have been said after 1974, so it must have been after Kophinou.

Makes no sense whatsoever Deniz... you forget that all agreed to a UN presence in 1964, so the UN are the ones who got involved with the Kophinou incidents, and I can’t imagine Makarios asking for Turkey to come too!

I know. Its seems a lot of quotes have been jumbled up into one argument. Out it down to lack of debating skills. I dont think there was an intention to mislead anyone.


Regards to the little one.

Thank you Deniz, I think she's ironing or something...

[Acikgoz]

Still looking for it. Property issue guys focus. I guess it is hard with all that patriotic zeal fogging your brains. All the crap I am trying to deflect in order to get a clear admission of whether you believe the Greek Cypriots are 100% justified in their actions and that what is happening is truly fair.

Ps. UN resolutions are no more than a popularity contest, you want to talk democracy then feed that argument throughout your answer, you want to talk about the rule of law, please do the same. Do not taint everything by the impact of the hard lobbying done by Greek Cypriots and Greece on your behalf.

[denizaksulu]

Grivas said that after the Kokkina aerial bombings?

The Kophinou and Ay. Theodoros incidents where Grivas over ran the two Villages in 1967. Naturally it could not have been said after 1974, so it must have been after Kophinou.

Makes no sense whatsoever Deniz... you forget that all agreed to a UN presence in 1964, so the UN are the ones who got involved with the Kophinou incidents, and I can’t imagine Makarios asking for Turkey to come too!

I know. Its seems a lot of quotes have been jumbled up into one argument. Out it down to lack of debating skills. I dont think there was an intention to mislead anyone.


Regards to the little one.

Thank you Deniz, I think she's ironing or something...

Oops. I meant the tiny one.

[Get Real!]

Still looking for it. Property issue guys focus. I guess it is hard with all that patriotic zeal fogging your brains.

Really? I could've sworn you started off with some nonsense about Grivas!

All the crap I am trying to deflect in order to get a clear admission of whether you believe the Greek Cypriots are 100% justified in their actions and that what is happening is truly fair.

What kind of loaded question is that?

Ps. UN resolutions are no more than a popularity contest, you want to talk democracy then feed that argument throughout your answer, you want to talk about the rule of law, please do the same. Do not taint everything by the impact of the hard lobbying done by Greek Cypriots and Greece on your behalf.

Can't make any sense out of that...

Is this another case of an ignoramus who thought he had the "argument of the century" only to realize that he didn't know what he was talking about and so now switches to a Mediterranean salad desperately hoping to score a point?

[Sotos]

Still looking for it. Property issue guys focus. I guess it is hard with all that patriotic zeal fogging your brains. All the crap I am trying to deflect in order to get a clear admission of whether you believe the Greek Cypriots are 100% justified in their actions and that what is happening is truly fair.

Ps. UN resolutions are no more than a popularity contest, you want to talk democracy then feed that argument throughout your answer, you want to talk about the rule of law, please do the same. Do not taint everything by the impact of the hard lobbying done by Greek Cypriots and Greece on your behalf.

What is happening is not fair at all! The Turks keep invading our island and bring their Settlers here and then they use their troops and their Settlers to take from us our rights and our properties.

The problem of Cyprus is the the expansionism of Turkey. It is a problem Cyprus has for more than 400 years!

[polis]

We shall see!. I have given you the words of the Orams solicitor

Comes to you in your sleep, does she?

No! :roll: At a meeting the other night.....Don't think I am allowed to tell you where but what a great night for bringing together the TC community... 8)

If you can get her to put it in writing I'm sure she can get disbarred.

[denizaksulu]

Still looking for it. Property issue guys focus. I guess it is hard with all that patriotic zeal fogging your brains. All the crap I am trying to deflect in order to get a clear admission of whether you believe the Greek Cypriots are 100% justified in their actions and that what is happening is truly fair.

Ps. UN resolutions are no more than a popularity contest, you want to talk democracy then feed that argument throughout your answer, you want to talk about the rule of law, please do the same. Do not taint everything by the impact of the hard lobbying done by Greek Cypriots and Greece on your behalf.

What is happening is not fair at all! The Turks keep invading our island and bring their Settlers here and then they use their troops and their Settlers to take from us our rights and our properties.

The problem of Cyprus is the the expansionism of Turkey. It is a problem Cyprus has for more than 400 years!

Sotos, forget about 400 years ago. The TCs are in Cyprus now; and how do we proceed from here? Leave the repetitions to Piratis.